No love for the Controller?

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I have never used a DS3 in GT5 (G27 since day one). I recently badly sprained my ankle and couldn't use the G27 though (it is still sore and puffy), and I almost wished I could use a DS3; I had to leave a league race because I couldn't drive :(
 
I use the controller and love it every much but need the Wheel for the First Grand Tour event and Redbull events :(
I always thought controller peoples have advantage over Steering wheel users
 
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mrkevans
I use ds3 and more than hold my own online, I would love a wheel set up but don't have room for that sort of rig. Dose a wheel really make you faster? I race and beat both ds3 and wheel in equal amounts so I'm not sure a wheel is any faster at all
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Not everyone who has a wheel is going to be faster than the top ds3 player.. Take into account individual skill levels.. Generally speaking, at the very top of gran turismo, the wheel is king!
 
I have a DFGT and bought it back in 2010 just before GT5 was released and strangely I still use the controller while the DFGT gathers dust. I oddly prefer teh pad but really need to start using the wheel.
 
Controller here, but DS2 instead DS3. DS2 is way better for racing games, the buttons are the main cause. Anyone who have old DS2 stick gathering dust, do try to use it, you'll be surprised. Invest in a cheap USB converter, you won't regret it.
 
Since I got DFGT, and then after a while G27 I never used my controller for GT (its just like going back to tetris :D ).. but I use it for Battlefield 3 and similar games :)
 
Ridox2JZGTE
Controller here, but DS2 instead DS3. DS2 is way better for racing games, the buttons are the main cause. Anyone who have old DS2 stick gathering dust, do try to use it, you'll be surprised. Invest in a cheap USB converter, you won't regret it.
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That's one I haven't heard before... What is it about the buttons exactly that you like better? I'm curious.

I think one of the big mistakes a lot of people make with the ds3, is controller button mapping. I think it's of paramount importance to map your buttons in a way that works well, and more specifically works well for you.
IMHO, the default mapped controls are the WORST way to have your buttons mapped.
My husband & I... NEITHER of us use the default mapped buttons for gt5. They're just not good. But on the other hand, both of us use different button mapping for different things than the other. We have it set up personalized.
 
watermelonpunch
That's one I haven't heard before... What is it about the buttons exactly that you like better? I'm curious.

I think one of the big mistakes a lot of people make with the ds3, is controller button mapping. I think it's of paramount importance to map your buttons in a way that works well, and more specifically works well for you.
IMHO, the default mapped controls are the WORST way to have your buttons mapped.
My husband & I... NEITHER of us use the default mapped buttons for gt5. They're just not good. But on the other hand, both of us use different button mapping for different things than the other. We have it set up personalized.
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I assigned circle for gas, triangle for brake, square for reverse, cross for hand brake, L1 for shift down, R1 for shift up, left analog for steering, right analog for look left/right, d-pad for RA menu adjust, R3 for opening RA menu, L3 for ghost, L2 for horn, R2 for toggle high beam.

The main thing about DS2 is the face buttons have a lot more travel and wider range in pressure input, basically I can press 3 time harder before applying full 100% brake or gas compared to DS3 face buttons. This is why I can modulate the brakes and gas from 10% to 100% at will with no difficulties. It made me possible to drive without ABS or any other aids, all without any issues that plaguing the DS3 or pedals, but the analog steering still can't compete with steering wheel.
 
GTP_CargoRat
Is that seatbelt for those times when you have one too many alcoholic beverages, lol. Buckle up for safety, lol.
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I don't drink, but still, LOL :lol: !
 
Ridox2JZGTE
I assigned circle for gas, triangle for brake, square for reverse, cross for hand brake, L1 for shift down, R1 for shift up, left analog for steering, right analog for look left/right, d-pad for RA menu adjust, R3 for opening RA menu, L3 for ghost, L2 for horn, R2 for toggle high beam.

The main thing about DS2 is the face buttons have a lot more travel and wider range in pressure input, basically I can press 3 time harder before applying full 100% brake or gas compared to DS3 face buttons. This is why I can modulate the brakes and gas from 10% to 100% at will with no difficulties. It made me possible to drive without ABS or any other aids, all without any issues that plaguing the DS3 or pedals, but the analog steering still can't compete with steering wheel.
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I was about to say that lol.That is exactly why ds2 is better, the face buttons were actually made to be pressure sensitive and not just an on/off switch.
 
I use a DS3 because my family wouldn't like to have a cockpit in the middle of the living room but I think I'm doing alright with a DS3.
 
Diogo Gomes
I use a DS3 because my family wouldn't like to have a cockpit in the middle of the living room but I think I'm doing alright with a DS3.
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That dose not have to be the case.. I made a collapsible wheel stand at work, out of an old metal bench! So when not in use it's well out the way under the bed so the wife don't find it!lol
 
sik180sx
I was about to say that lol.That is exactly why ds2 is better, the face buttons were actually made to be pressure sensitive and not just an on/off switch.
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DS3 is pressure sensitive too, it's just that for some reason they made the buttons so that the weight of a moth's wing is enough to get it to 100% pressure. Good decision.
 
I use the DS3 because I cannot afford a wheel. I have L2-Brake R2-Accelerate, L1-change down R1-Change up. I find there's enough travel in the standard back buttons for me to drive without using driver aids. The main benefits over using the right stick for Accelerate and brake is that I can brake and accelerate at the same time if necessary and I can use the right stick to look around in cockpit view.
 
I decided to change the shift up and shift down to the same side of the controller. I use my right index finger for both with the R1 and R2 buttons. Found it much easier than one trigger on each side needed for shifting.
 
I find using the word "simulator" when thinking about wheel vs controller pretty comical, especially with phrases such as "should use" "it's a simulator, therefore", "must use" and the like.

The game comes with damage OFF for crying out loud. Simulator is at least in part a marketing adjective. Is GT5 deep? Alomst beyond description. Is it the best? Yes, in my opinion. Does game play last as long as you want it to last, with a nearly unfathomable amount of cars? Sure does. It's magnificent in that regard.

But the default setup of the game allows you to slam into a wall, barrier, or other cars at 200 mph and simply drive off. Simulator? Uhhhh.... oops.
 
Right.👍

The game is great fun. I play it daily.:) But it is not "The real driving simulator", That's just advertising hype.:roll eyes:

I love my DS3, but i'm in love with my T500.:sly::dunce:
 
I see that alot of people have their own opinions that are pretty well presented and clean cut. I appreciate all of you taking the time out of your day to post on this thread. 👍
 
It's interesting learning about all the different ways people have their controller mapped for the inputs. That really is so important, to set it up in the way that suits you best that allows you the most comfort & natural way to do it.
BJBEOSmitty
I decided to change the shift up and shift down to the same side of the controller. I use my right index finger for both with the R1 and R2 buttons. Found it much easier than one trigger on each side needed for shifting.
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Yes, I couldn't split the shift & down between 2 hands. Somehow that seemed unnatural, or awkward... too likely for confusion in a critical moment.
I use the left stick for both steering left & right, and shift up & down forward & back.
Not that I'm great at shifting... or driving for that matter. But it's the only way for me to be able to do it all smoothly enough.
 
gthead01
I've been DS3 since GT1, and haven't looked back. A wheel sounds fun, but the controller is home to me, and I'm not suffering because of it. Sure, I'm not in the top 1000 in the tt's, but would a wheel really put me there? For me, it is about having fun and controlling my environment.
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Being faster with a wheel is an absolutely tiny bonus of having a wheel. That really isn't why we use wheels. It's kind of tough for me to articulate but let me put it this way; I own 23 racing games/sims between PC and PS3 and if my wheel broke, I would not play a single one of them until I got another.

It's an addiction. Once you get into to it, using a controller is just boring and it seems like a joke. The amount of sensations you get from the wheel is amazing. And wheels still are far from perfect.

It just takes the immersion level from 2/10 to 10/10.

I'm really not good at explaining it, and I know even if I was I could never convince anyone how important it really is but what I will say is, real cars are not driven with controllers obviously, and when you finally get your own wheel, you're going to wonder how you ever used controller to begin with.

It isn't easy at first, but once you get it, you'll have the same opinion as me that it is the absolute best investment in entertainment you have ever made.



I'm not knocking any controller guys, I've met some that were amazing but I'm just giving my opinion. by the way, the wheel I use only cost 100 USD, so for those that are worried about cost, the DFGT is a great option.
 
Question... Does every wheel come with pedals and a manual gear shift? Is it possible to have a wheel but use buttons for gas/brake/shift?
 
BJBEOSmitty
Question... Does every wheel come with pedals and a manual gear shift? Is it possible to have a wheel but use buttons for gas/brake/shift?
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The DFGT comes with buttons on the backside of the wheel used for shifting(like any SMG type car). T500 uses large aluminum paddles or optional H-pattern "stick" shifter. You can program most of the buttons for whatever you want really?? :)👍
 
I used a DS3 since GT4, even doing A spec 24hr races with it. Once I bought a DFGT I said eff the DS3
 
I don't think it's any faster with a wheel.If anything it's more difficult.You get an assist from the game when you use the DS3.The wheel is a more realistic way of playing the game.You get much more feedback from the car.
 
Even as I have G27 I use DS3, most of the time, for 2 reasons:
1. Drifting - I'm not at all into it, so when a drift trial pops up - I just do it with DS3 (it's easier, I know) and I'm done with it.
2. Space and placing for the G27 - Since I don't have the opportunity to make myself a racing cockpit, I have to mount and dismount it often.
That, though, doesn't spoil the pure pleasure of driving with a wheel one bit! :dopey: If I have the time/opportunity I'll never turn back to DS3. Sorry. :dopey:
Also I found driving with ABS off with a wheel much more easier than with a controller. So ... more fun = G27. 👍:dopey:
 
Aside from the fact I'm too stripped of cash to buy a Wheel, I love the DS3 to pieces.

Heck, at one point I was 300th on the last GTA12 challenge using it. Out of a good 20,000, I was pretty happy. :lol:
My one main reason for loving the DS3 is the fact that by learning how to make very slight adjustments to the car using it, it has also given me very steady hands. So for that reason, I doubt I'll ever turn to a wheel.
 
I use both. I use my DS3 most of the time with my 46" TV while sitting on the couch. I also have a second PS3 set up at a table with the wheel & pedals, so I can use either or race a friend when someone's over :D I'm decnet with both and like them each for different reasons.
 
I'm sitting here reading all of these posts and haven't even explained why I gots deh love for my DS3. The reason I use it (aside from not being able to buy a wheel/even have space for it) is because I'm used to it. Not only that but I've grown to love the different feel the DS3 have that actually sitting in a car and on top of that I feel like I can focus more with just a TV blaring in my face that having to also focus on a wheel along with shifting. Not hating, just giving why I have my preference.
 
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