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Discussion in 'Gran Turismo PSP' started by Lancia stratos, Mar 22, 2010.
All the racing tyres (R) are slick.
My lap times:
Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren '03: 7'15.210
Enzo Ferrari '02: 7'16.028
Nissan GT-R Spec V '09: 7'24.398
Lamborghini Countach LP400 '74: 7'42.103
BMW M3 CSL '03: 7'44.513
RUF RGT '00: 7'45.666
Dodge Viper GTS '99: 7'46.730
Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi '02 7'57.752
Nissan Skyline (R34) GT-R M-Spec Nur '02: 7'53.988
Chrysler 300C '05 (in some countries known as Lancia Thema): 8'09.220
FPV GT '04: 8'11.571
Plymouth Super Bird '70: 8'12.811
Lexus SC430 (EU) '01: 8'21.782
Lancia Stratos '73: 8'31.120
Spyker C8 Laviolette '01: D'SQ.DSQ
All of these laps are done on the Top Gear way: Started from 0 km/h and all the same circumstances.
Circumstances are Automatic - R3/R3 - TCS 5 - ASM ON - ASSISTENCE LOW - REALISM STANDARD - RACE MODE LEVEL A
I have experienced that the Nürburgring is very boring as soon as you cross the finishline. It's so boring, that i always wanted to play the track again after the replay.
Did you use R3 tires on your time trials? Anyways, I finished the Impreza vs. Lancers time trials. That was VERY time consuming! But fun! My fingers kinda hurt heh heh. Alright I'll try prehaps a Stratos vs. 300ZX!
First off, Lancia Stratos vs the Nissan fairlady Z.
Winner: The Nissan Fairlady Z.
Ok, I kinda set the bar a bit too high.
How about old cars? Prehaps maybe MR vehicles as well.
So I got one in mind
Lancia Stratos vs The DOME Concept.
Winner: The Lancia Stratos. The stratos accelerated faster. But I had to hassle with it a little bit. But hey, it won.
Yes, AT, R3-R3, TCS 5, ASM on, Steering Assistence low and realism standard.
NEW: The Skyline Best Buy Series
Which roadlegal Skyline is the best buy? I will find out!
GT-R Spec V '09: 7'24.398
Skyline (R32) GT-R N1 '91: 7'50.141
Skyline (R34) GT-R V-Spec '99: 7'51.836
Skyline GT-R '00: 7'52.630
Skyline (R34) GT-R M-Spec '01: 7'52.753
Skyline (R34) GT-R M-Spec Nur '02: 7'53.988
Skyline (R34) GT-R MNPII '99: 7'54.543
Skyline (R34) GT-R V-Spec II Nur: '02 7'54.744
Skyline (R33) GT-R V-Spec LM Limited: '96 7'56.403
Skyline (R32) GT-R V-spec II '94: 7'56.852
Skyline GT-R '89: 7'57.154
Skyline (R33) GT-R V-Spec '96: 7'57.746
Skyline (R33) GT-R V-Spec '97: 7'59.722
Skyline (R32) GT-R'91: 8'01.819
Skyline (R32) GT-R V-Spec N1: '93 8'03.527
Skyline Sedan 350GT-8 '02: 8'14.551
Skyline Sedan 300GT '01: 8'24.665
Skyline GTS-R '87: 8'34.022
Skyline (R32) GTS25 Type S '91: 8'46.777
Skyline 2000GT-R '73: 8'55.994
Skyline HT 2000 RS-X Turbo C '84: 8'57.215
Skyline 2000 GT-B '67: 9'19.069
Skyline 1500Deluxe '63: 10'45.307
Skyline (R32) GTS-t Type M '89: x'xx.xxx
Skyline (R34) GT-R MNPIII '00: x'xx.xxx
Skyline Coupe 350GT '03: x'xx.xxx
Skyline (R33) GT-R '97: x'xx.xxx
All Skylines are good handeling cars, except for the
GT-R Spec V '09, which suffers under his big number
of horsepower. It is the perfect car for the ring. You
can go for a fast one for easy money, or a slower one
for more fun. Remember: You haven't played Gran Turismo
unless you've owned a Skyline.
Talking of the Ring, the 24 hours of the Nurburgring race is next month- anyone going and any idea if it will be televised?
No idea. We still have to wait for announcements....
An hour ago, my NSX Type R '91 spun out at Metzgesfeld while driving it flat-out. The other NSXs overtook me by a couple of seconds while I was struggling to get out of the green zone.
I'm stopping with the Skyline series, it's getting boring. More on the lapboard is coming.
So. I have this dream of winning against all the F1's GTPSP puts you when you choose the S grade with the Suzuki Escudo. The best I have ever done was something around 6 minutes and 3 seconds (like I said in a topic I made), while the F1's get 5:40's and stuff.
I usually play with no TCS or any other aids, R3's (>_>) and Professional physics. But today I remembered to just put a little bit TCS on the escudo.
I am one step closer! The Escudo will be victorious!
Wow. So you're winning races on the 'Ring using an Escudo huh. For me it's a tough nut to crack.
The Escudo is pretty controllable once you tune it well. Much easier than driving, say, the Toyota 7 (which was the car I was trying to tame before the Escudo - I still haven't quit, although I know in the back of my head it's impossible).
I think the "cleanest" car you can drive on the ring while still being pretty fun is the Ford RS200 Rally Car. It's fast and very stable.
Re : 2011 event- I found this-
Its in June!
R3/R3 with everything off except for TCS (5) and realism on Professional:
Opel Speedster Turbo '00: 8'30'116
Nissan Skyline GT-R '00: 8'02.064
Chevrolet Corvette Coupe '63:
How about a match up with these old cars:
Chevrolet Corvette Convertible (C1) '54
Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupe '54
Jaguar E-TYPE Coupe '61
Chevrolet Corvette Coupe (C2) '63
Does anyone have any tunes for these cars?
I did a 2 lap race, B level in the Chevrolet Corvette Convertible (C1) '54. My best time was on the second lap with 9'43.796 (first lap was 9'49.768). My tune was:
Active Steering off
Driving Physics Professional
Tires S3 (I figured that would be equivalent to if not better than the best tires of that time)
I came in 4th
Ford Focus ST170 '03 (winner by 6.474 seconds)
Toyota Corolla Levin BZ-R '98 +1.058
Mazda Atenza Sports 23Z +2.043
The old girl put up a good fight, even held the lead briefly on both laps, but with only 2 gears (WTF!) it just didn't have the top end to keep the lead on the straight. The engine is incredibly flexible though, masking the lack of gears on most parts of the track. I wish I could blame myself for the loss, but I only had one bump with the Mazda on the first lap and one off on the second lap. In a time trial I could probably shave a second or 2, but I will let these times stand for now and see what the other cars can do.
Same race, same settings. This time I used the Chevrolet Corvette Coupe (C2) '63.
My best time was a 9'12.617 on the second lap (first lap was 9.20.409).
I finished 2nd
Ford RS200 '94 won by + 9.594
Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro '03 +9.831
Toyota Caldina GT-FOUR '02 +10.416
Finally a car with a real gearbox. I went off a few times when I first started, getting used to the car. I got up into second place fairly easily but I could not catch the RS200. I caught sight of him a few times on the first lap. I went off the track two more times on the first lap but easily kept or regained 2nd place. On the second lap a did much better, but still couldn't get close to the RS200. I only had 2 offs this lap but they were big ones and probably cost me about 8 seconds. I don't know if I could have caught the RS200 without those. I was easily ahead down the straight but took the last corners cautiously to keep from going off and losing second place. Strangely, the Toyota was ahead of the Audi the entire race until the final corners after the straight.
I did a 64 lap race with an ARTA Gariaya and got passed on the last lap by the yellow bird, in frustration i want full speed throught the Aremberg, Went into the Sand and Finished last for about 50K RAGE!
The worst thing that can happen on the 'ring is to fail the last sharp corner after the big straight. Finished last so many times that way...although sometimes I had time to block the other cars to at least get the 2nd or 3rd position. Last is shameful.
Yea that happens to me a lot!
Nürburgring Stories - Never think bad of normal drivers
Story 1: The Family Boy
On a hot summerday, a family is driving on ''a road'' in Germany on their way to their holidaydestination in their Legacy Stationwagon. However, things take a twist when he is cut of by a Elise, a Impreza and a M Coupe. Boys with toys will always be together, so he puts the pedal to the medal and totally forgets his family. Alltrough the little boy is enjoying the race, his wife is very upset and scared to death. She lets him go (best wife ever?) and he overtakes the M Coupe and the Impreza, which weren't putting effort - they didn't expect HIM to race. However, the Elise is in to it. In the corners, the 4WD worked out for the Legacy so he could overtake the RWD Lotus. In the fast corners after the first part, the Elise came back but the Subaru overtaked him by trading paint. The boy was going MAD of fun! In the blind corners the stationwagon was fully going in to his suspension. However, the our 4WD hero hitted the grass a bit causing the car to spin a bit and he needed to start from 3rd place. The wife was crying of fear, the boy of pure fun. The man said nothing, because he NEEDED to win! The Karussell was heaven for our little boy, as they were attempting to overtake the Elise. At the back straight, the wife started taking over the steer, but failed. However, he lost his position and got last. The fast corners at the and were token flatout. He got second and stopped at the side of the road. His wife got very mad at him, but he pushed her out of the way because the Elise driver gave him some money for his good racing. The wife gave up. Boys and toys...
Story 2: Testdriver vs Normal drivers
At a sunny winter day, a testdriver of VW was told to drive the Golf V GTI and the Golf VI GTI to see the difference. However, it was a public day to test driving at normal roads. The testdriver obviously ran into some other drivers so he was planning to overtake them in the first corners. The RX-7 drivers and the Legacy driver however didn't give up easily and it was a real competition for the win. The tester swore that he would tell his boss that the next time he will drive alone on the track. But not now, it's time to show the homedrivers what he can do! The first Mazda wasn't giving up at all. Our VW hero drove fast into a corner and his back came out. Time to show that rearwheel driver the benefits of frontwheel driving! Well, understeer isn't one, because in the blind corners it nearly hitted the grass. However, in the Karussell there was no problems with the steering. The RX-7 in black tried to overtake so he's putting the pedal to the medal as much as possible. Some corners later he looked back and saw the red RX-7. ''Who's the daddy now, huh?'' As he was near to the back straight, the RX-7 in red was not very near. However, at the end of the straight he was behind him. The black one got revenge however and overtook the red Mazda. The Legacy wasn't a match for the other 3.
The Hohenrain, eh? Try slowing yourself down by the time you reach Tiergarten (section before the last corner).
That's quite a task you've got there. How long did the race last?
Wow noisaturismo, those stories were awesome. I couldnt be THAT creative with a story even if I tried.
Great idea on the car choices Peterjford, but I gotta look for them now. I dont appear to own any of them.
Thing is, some cars get very unstable there - veeeeeeeeeeeery unstable.
But yeah, lately it doesn't happen so much, most certainly because of my experience.
How do you tune your Escudo?
Well first you get a huuge tuning fork...
All I did is to let off the gas once the straight nearly ends. However, If the speed I exited is too much, I'll slam the brakes hard, even if it costs me time.
Then you tap it on a desk...
Front aerodynamics up to 44, rear aerodynamics standard (60), cause I dislike too much understeer. Ride height to minimum, spring rates 7 and damper 8 (both front and rear). No toe. Front camber 4.0 and rear camber 3.0.
Oh wow thats pretty smart Donfuy. I'll try it out, i mean the understeer is keeping me from racing it on the ring.
And '66 Roadster, why tap it on the desk? I thought we were tuning the Escudo, not a desk.
no no no, you tap the tuning fork on the desk! Did they not teach you music at school?
What if the desk is made from untempered glass?
By the way try racing an Silvia S15 spec-R on the 'Ring and see how you corner flat-out in Bergwerk (w/o any aids).