Nurburgring Times

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If you want a ball park track time for any track see the "Lap Time Benchmark" thread its in my signature.
 
The best 'Ring time I know of is about 4:44 in a Toyota 88C-V. I don't recall who did it but there are videos of it around. Can somebody help out on this?
 
I got 6:08 with an upgraded Minolta, it was in b-spec mode though while I was doing the 24 hours of Nurburgring
 
Back in the day, I was able to get sub-5:30.XXX times with the Minolta. Now, I'm lucky to get sub-5:42.XXX...
 
Why does every GT game always have to have one unrealistically good car in it. GT1 had the Purple Dodge Concept Car LM for circuits. and the Mitsubishi for top speed. GT2 had the Escudo which somehow did awesome on circuits when it is supposed to be a rally racer. GT3 did a good job at not over-hyping any car the best cars in that game were the Formula One cars rightfully so and the 787B and GT-One etc which makes sense. GT4 has that stupid Minolta which in all reality would not do the Nurb in 4:44 that is supremely ridiculous! It is probably impossible for any car ever to be that quick.

I don't know if these were intentional and that PD was showing favoritism or if these rather huge logic-holes were accidental.
 
Why does every GT game always have to have one unrealistically good car in it. GT1 had the Purple Dodge Concept Car LM for circuits. and the Mitsubishi for top speed. GT2 had the Escudo which somehow did awesome on circuits when it is supposed to be a rally racer. GT3 did a good job at not over-hyping any car the best cars in that game were the Formula One cars rightfully so and the 787B and GT-One etc which makes sense. GT4 has that stupid Minolta which in all reality would not do the Nurb in 4:44 that is supremely ridiculous! It is probably impossible for any car ever to be that quick.

I don't know if these were intentional and that PD was showing favoritism or if these rather huge logic-holes were accidental.

The answer to your accusations lie in the difference between game and reality. If you're in a real car, facing a real course, with real death as a possiblity, you're going to alter your approach somewhat. You're not going to take as huge a risk, because it could cost you dearly.

However, if you're playing a game with no consequences, who cares if you screw up and t-bone the wall at 150+mph? You'll just do it right the next lap. Your approach is reckless and pushes toward the limits of the car and the track.

Another difference between the game and reality is that you don't feel the g-forces, the heat, the shimmer effect of a mirage screwing up your sightlines, the upsetting vibrations of the road, etc. that would normally throw you WAY off in real-life circuit racing.

If Niki Lauda had been racing in GT4, the kink immediately before Bergwerk would not be called "Lauda Links" because his crash would have been immaterial. Just a bad lap. Fact is, he was racing in real life and it cost him. Because others didn't want to be set on fire, also, they decide to play it a little safer and drive somewhat slower than what is "theoretically" possible.

There have been numerous reports on this matter, not the least credible of which was from the mouth of Jeremy Clarkson himself. It's well established.
 
The answer to your accusations lie in the difference between game and reality. If you're in a real car, facing a real course, with real death as a possiblity, you're going to alter your approach somewhat. You're not going to take as huge a risk, because it could cost you dearly.

However, if you're playing a game with no consequences, who cares if you screw up and t-bone the wall at 150+mph? You'll just do it right the next lap. Your approach is reckless and pushes toward the limits of the car and the track.

Another difference between the game and reality is that you don't feel the g-forces, the heat, the shimmer effect of a mirage screwing up your sightlines, the upsetting vibrations of the road, etc. that would normally throw you WAY off in real-life circuit racing.

If Niki Lauda had been racing in GT4, the kink immediately before Bergwerk would not be called "Lauda Links" because his crash would have been immaterial. Just a bad lap. Fact is, he was racing in real life and it cost him. Because others didn't want to be set on fire, also, they decide to play it a little safer and drive somewhat slower than what is "theoretically" possible.

There have been numerous reports on this matter, not the least credible of which was from the mouth of Jeremy Clarkson himself. It's well established.

I know what you mean. In GT and other racing games the player can do really dangerous and risky maneuvers without the fear of crashing and burning to death or any other thing. Also I am full aware of the differences between driving in a sim and real life etc. I just find a lap time of 4:44 kinda off-kilter to being the slightest bit realistic after all this is supposed to be a sim. It must be because of those unrealistic grip levels on the SS Tires.
 
Last fall I drove the ring in 9:07 in a stock M5... IRL, not the game... I'm planning a group trip back to Germany next spring if anyone is interested. It's 20 euros a lap, and there is a car rental
Place at the entrance of the track that has all kinds of goodies. I rented the M5 for 200 euros... I spent 300 or so euros for the day of Racing. U can hire guides as well. It's an experience EVERYONE who loves cars should experience.
 
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