ORCA Silvia Spec Cup - SEASON COMPLETE, CARRACERPTP SUPREME ORCA CHAMP

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Edit: Double Post

 

[BrandonW77]

Well, testing was a wash last night as there were only three of us. But I will say I'm a fan of the draft during practice. It feels more natural/real and I think it's going to benefit us greatly since we will actually be practicing under race conditions now. When practicing, I usually do some laps by myself to learn the track and then find a car to run close to so I can see what the turns are like with traffic. Now when I'm practicing with traffic I will have the increased speed associated with the draft and will also be susceptible to the aero push associated with the draft. So when the race actually is underway we won't be caught off-guard by these things and suddenly have to learn new braking points and strategies.

I'm not saying that draft should be on for qualifying (in all likelihood we won't be doing that) but having the draft on in practice will, I think, prove to be a good benefit to all of us. One of the hardest things I've had to learn about our racing is adapting to the draft and the aero push on the fly with traffic all around and it's lead to some less than desirable results. This should better prepare us for race conditions. 👍

I want to hold a serious test session on Friday where we can run through several different scenarios so I can be prepared to launch the season on Tuesday. I need a decent crowd, around 7-8 or more, of varying skill levels so we can do a mock qualifying with and without the draft and also determine how the timing monitor is working now and how the game is ranking our on-track positions. So if you're free tomorrow night plan on being online around 8:30 or 9pm EDT.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I'll be gone all weekend but good luck with the test.👍

 

[BrandonW77]

I'll be gone all weekend but good luck with the test.👍

Going snow-shoe shopping for the impending Canuck winter?


(kidding!)

 

[Naptown25rs]

Now when I'm practicing with traffic I will have the increased speed associated with the draft and will also be susceptible to the aero push associated with the draft.

Thanks DW...

 

[BrandonW77]

Thanks DW...

Why the insult?!?! Them's bordering on fightin' words bro!



Aero push is a very real thing in this game, once I realized what it was and that it exists I was able to improve my performance and minimize mistakes that I thought were "random".

 

[Naptown25rs]

Why the insult?!?! Them's bordering on fightin' words bro!



Aero push is a very real thing in this game, once I realized what it was and that it exists I was able to improve my performance and minimize mistakes that I thought were "random".

I'm aware that it's a real issue in the game, I just couldn't resist you leaving the door open like that.

 

[BrandonW77]

^ Ya know, as many DW references as you make.........I'm starting to think you're closet NASCAR fan.

 

[Naptown25rs]

^ Ya know, as many DW references as you make.........I'm starting to think you're closet NASCAR far.

Um.....

I was just making you aware of what you said so that it doesn't happen again! Yeah!

 

[BrandonW77]

^ Uh-huh......likely story HillJack!!

 

[Johnnypenso]

Going snow-shoe shopping for the impending Canuck winter?
(kidding!)

Typical American...doesn't realize we all have several pairs already

 

[BrandonW77]

Typical American...doesn't realize we all have several pairs already

Perfect comeback!! Actually, could you send some of those meters of snow our way? We only had one real snow-fall last year and it was barely deep enough to do a donut, and it was all melted by the time I got off work.

 

[Naptown25rs]

^ Uh-huh......likely story HillJack!!

I don't know... Anderson might actually be a little more "Deliverance-esque" than New Castle. :banjo: :squeallikeapig:

 

[BrandonW77]

I can't argue that. Here's my home town......both sad and hilarious. No joke, it really is where I live. You can actually see my work at some point in it. If you can find it somewhere, watch it.




But New Castle is like (Not a) Menace 2 Society.

 

[Naptown25rs]

I can't argue that. Here's my home town......both sad and hilarious.

HA! I can't believe I've never seen or heard of that before... I'm now furiously looking for a free download.

 

[acedition333]

With this new tire wear, pitting is most likely out of the picture. Which will probably change everyone's way of racing. Anyone think it's a good thing or bad thing? Personally, I liked that we needed to pit (most of the times).
Not saying we should pit. Just saying it involved more strategy.

 

[BrandonW77]

With this new tire wear, pitting is most likely out of the picture. Which will probably change everyone's way of racing. Anyone think it's a good thing or bad thing? Personally, I liked that we needed to pit (most of the times).
Not saying we should pit. Just saying it involved more strategy.

I want pitstops to be part of the race and I was concerned that the new tire wear would cause pitstops to be unnecessary. A 45 minute race without pitstops can get boring and tedious, but with a pitstop it breaks things up and adds a (tiny) bit of strategy to the picture, give us all a little something extra to think about while we're racing. But people seem to be opposed to a mandatory pitstop which is why I didn't make them mandatory last season, but it mostly worked out that they were necessary and I think it added a lot of excitement to the racing. Now, I'm not so sure.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

I want pitstops to be part of the race and I was concerned that the new tire wear would cause pitstops to be unnecessary. A 45 minute race without pitstops can get boring and tedious, but with a pitstop it breaks things up and adds a (tiny) bit of strategy to the picture, give us all a little something extra to think about while we're racing. But people seem to be opposed to a mandatory pitstop which is why I didn't make them mandatory last season, but it mostly worked out that they were necessary and I think it added a lot of excitement to the racing. Now, I'm not so sure.

I know most of you are looking for performance realism with tire choice. Seems to me, if you want pit stops to be necessary without stating they are mandatory, you will have to use a tire that won't last the length of the race, regardless of its traction factors.

 

[acedition333]

I know most of you are looking for performance realism with tire choice. Seems to me, if you want pit stops to be necessary without stating they are mandatory, you will have to use a tire that won't last the length of the race, regardless of its traction factors.

Changing the tire type won't really fly for everyone. The car is stable enough with these tires. (Hey I'd love the extra grip!!) So most likely it would be sport softs with no pit stop racing. Either way I'm ok with what BrandonW goes with....

::EDIT::
And....I agree with what You (dragon) and Brandon are saying.

 

[BrandonW77]

I know most of you are looking for performance realism with tire choice. Seems to me, if you want pit stops to be necessary without stating they are mandatory, you will have to use a tire that won't last the length of the race, regardless of its traction factors.

I agree, but at some point we would be sacrificing control for tire wear and I'm not willing to do that. We'd probably have to go to at least Sports Hard to have tire wear that would make a pitstop necessary and at that point the car would enough harder to control that the racing would not be as good as it was last season. I would rather have a good handling/racing car with no pitstops than a poor handling/racing car with pitstops. 👍

 

[Torzilla]

I want pitstops to be part of the race and I was concerned that the new tire wear would cause pitstops to be unnecessary. A 45 minute race without pitstops can get boring and tedious, but with a pitstop it breaks things up and adds a (tiny) bit of strategy to the picture, give us all a little something extra to think about while we're racing. But people seem to be opposed to a mandatory pitstop which is why I didn't make them mandatory last season, but it mostly worked out that they were necessary and I think it added a lot of excitement to the racing. Now, I'm not so sure.

What about requiring everyone to pullover mid-race, shotgun a four loko and get back to driving again. This will be way more effective than a pit stop.

 

[acedition333]

what about requiring everyone to pullover mid-race, shotgun a four loko and get back to driving again. This will be way more effective than a pit stop.

lol!

 

[BrandonW77]

What about requiring everyone to pullover mid-race, shotgun a four loko and get back to driving again. This will be way more effective than a pit stop.

Sure would make the second half of the race pretty interesting!!!

 

[dsgerbc]

Or allow a change to racing hards during race =)
First lap pitstop could be fun and will mix things up alright

 

[carracerptp]

I agree, but at some point we would be sacrificing control for tire wear and I'm not willing to do that. We'd probably have to go to at least Sports Hard to have tire wear that would make a pitstop necessary and at that point the car would enough harder to control that the racing would not be as good as it was last season. I would rather have a good handling/racing car with no pitstops than a poor handling/racing car with pitstops. 👍

Don't sports hards last longer than sports softs?
I think we would need to add racing soft or something (please don't).

 

[BrandonW77]

Don't sports hards last longer than sports softs?
I think we would need to add racing soft or something (please don't).

You're correct, although less grip would mean more sliding which could increase tire wear. We probably would have to switch to racing compound to get the desired tire wear but those make the car way too easy to drive, almost feels sterile and oversteer is almost impossible.......so we won't be going that route.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

Even though this flies against the desire to NOT have mandatory pit stops, there is always using the tried and true mandatory two tire compound option. Kinda hard to police this, I would think.

Any way you cut it, with the current game limitations, sacrifices will be made.

 

[dsgerbc]

You're correct, although less grip would mean more sliding which could increase tire wear. We probably would have to switch to racing compound to get the desired tire wear but those make the car way too easy to drive, almost feels sterile and oversteer is almost impossible.......so we won't be going that route.

I'm guessing he meant to say 'racing hards last longer than sport softs'. Otherwise what he's saying does not make sense to me.
I haven't tried the racing hard tires after the update.

 

[acedition333]

Damn you PD, for certain changes!

 

[BrandonW77]

I'm guessing he meant to say 'racing hards last longer than sport softs'. Otherwise what he's saying does not make sense to me.
I haven't tried the racing hard tires after the update.

I don't think so. In any given compound the harder tire will usually last longer than the softer compound but have less grip. Therefore Sport Hards should last longer than Sport Softs.