PD are you for real..???

[another_jakhole]

 

[killer tiller]

Sure, but can't a little discussion and debate go on over it? Not over the contents, that's just silly, but the price. Which is what this thread is about, no?

No it's not about the price, it's about the fact that people have to pay for something that they think they should get for free because it should have been in the game from the start.

Nothing wrong with a little discussion or debate but there are multiple threads complaining about DLC and how people have to pay for it.

PD has gone above and beyond to try satisfy us players as they know it wasn't finished properly at time of release. Countless updates to rectify problems given for free, people voted that they wanted SPA and PD followed through, the drag racers have wanted a strip to race on (well at least they now have a 1/4 mile to work on their setups) so we now get a newer (and much better looking) test track. We get new premium car models, yes some are just updated but a couple brand new cars added to the line up too.

And the part people seem to have trouble understanding is the fact that all these free updates, new cars/tracks/features all take countless man hours to create and the team at PD can't work for free so why is it so hard to understand that there will be a small price to pay for bonus material?

No one is forcing anyone to buy anything, so as its been said hundreds of times already if people don't like the idea of paying for DLC then they don't need to purchase it. It's their choice

 

[decho]

Ok, for the first id like to say im not against paying some cash for some cars and tracks afcors whit some reasonable prices but whit the new update this will come to almost 30e for now.. and i didnt get any new tracks that we all wanted that bad.. so if the DLC is coming every 2 month this will mean that i will spend throo the whole year around 60e.. or maybe more..

Right now i realised that gt5 was a scam of a life.. unfinished game.. they didnt have time to make premium cars.. yea right!!!

Judging by that gt5 will be the most expensive game out there.. am i the only one seing this..???

p.s. im a big gt fan folowing the series but these things just provocate me to say and ask these things..

Ok, now.. im shore im writing in english, otherwise mods will warn me.. its like homework kids, lets do this again..

First off all they have said that the game is unfinished.. ok i agree whit that.. like i said it is like a gt4 splitt in half.. did all of you forget about unstable conections and poure graphics and tracks full of bugs.. i guess you did.. and when they finnaly stabilize the network and announce DLC, the first DLC they gave it was only spa on it.. ok i thout it is spa.. probably there will be more not so popular tracks in it.. 2nd DLC was pure pure rubish.. and this 3rd one im sorry to say but someone is making a fool out of me.. im sorry but this track should be in the game for the first place..

I will bye it just like the rest of dlc, and from cars all i need is a jag.. and i will pay again.. but i think thats wrong and i vount change my mind.. no mather how much you will defend pd i still think most of you didnt play nothing from gt serie but gt5.. so you dont understand what am i talking about.. and im doing this only because gt is a unfinished game.. im forced to do it..

And yes, judging by that gt will be the most expensive game out there but the point is what this game have to offer me.. judging by these 3 dlc-s it will be a long time untill they release all 34 missing tracks from gt4..and its a question will they realese..

Can someone explain where is the rally section in gt5? they will probably sell it to me in the near future.. again..

GT was caracterised in some magazines as a big big dissapointment.. now i realise why..

 

[lowwatt]

i wont buy the cars they are boring and 2 are already in

 

[Spagetti69]

PD has gone above and beyond to try satisfy us players as they know it wasn't finished properly at time of release. Countless updates to rectify problems given for free,

You make that sound like people should be grateful they never charged.

 

[thelvynau]

You make that sound like people should be grateful they never charged.

How many games get this kind of support a year later I quit playing tdu2 because of that lack of support

 

[the Interceptor]

How many games get this kind of support a year later

You have to admit though that they mainly fixed problems which shouldn't have been there in the first place.

There always are many ways to understand such things, it just depends on where you're coming from.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

I still dont get it how come some people dont see this, i guess they started playing gt just from gt5.. the point is that pd cutt the gt4 in half and now they are selling it to us piece by piece..

Your obversations are not lost on me.
From a purely economic standpoint, they are completely legit, and actually
worse than you have pointed out.

I paid $30 for GT4.
GT5 was already a 100% increase, being $60 at release.

So in reality, we got about 50% of GT4 actual game content, for twice the price. Not exactly a bargain.

As you point out, you have just begun paying with the $60 investment.
If you purchase all the DLC, you can reasonably estimate the game to cost another $60, before the release of the next installment.

So, thats a GT game now for quadruple the price of GT4, and content still may, or may not balance what we got in GT4.

Unfortunately, for obvious reasons, this is fast becoming the gaming trend, none of which BTW, are economically beneficial to the gamer.

Duly noted however, are many in the GT5 fanbase who are apparently predisposed to this arrangement and accept it as the reasonable norm.

Its all in how you choose to see it, but again, from a purely economic standpoint, you can factually claim;
" We're getting hosed ".

 

[Double-T]

For the amount of time i've spent playing this game and the enjoyment i've gotten out of it, $60 + $DLC is a bargain. Even after accounting for all it's problems.

 

[filipovisck]

Your obversations are not lost on me.
From a purely economic standpoint, they are completely correct, and actually
worse than you have pointed out.

I paid $30 for GT4.
GT5 was already a 100% increase, being $60 at release.

So in reality, we got about 50% of GT4 actual game content, for twice the price. Not exactly a bargain.

As you point out, you have just begun paying with the $60 investment.
If you purchase all the DLC, you can reasonably estimate the game to cost another $60, before the release of the next installment.

So, thats a GT game now for quadruple the price of GT4, and content still may, or may not balance what we got in GT4.

Unfortunately, for obvious reasons, this is fast becoming the gaming trend, none of which BTW, are economically beneficial to the gamer.

Duly noted however, are many in the GT5 fanbase who are apparently predisposed to this arrangement and accept it as the reasonable norm.

Its all in how you choose to see it, but again, from a purely economic standpoint, you can factually claim;
" We're getting hosed ".

I agree very much with this.

The one point I would like to hear your guys' thought, is the actual cost of game production these days.

The first DLC batch is said to have been downloaded 1 million times in only the first two weeks.
https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-dlc-hits-one-million-downloads-in-two-weeks/
For the average price of 5$, one could said they may have made 5 millions (most likely more).

So the question would be, how much of these 5 millions they used to create and distribute the 15RM cars, Spa, Kart Space and some paint chips? I don't know.
If they spent somewhere half of this, I think it's getting costy to produce additional content for an existing game and the price charged unfortunately is reasonable.
If not (if they spent just a small fraction, though I don't know, I think is the right answer), it is just like SuperCobraJet, said in bold.

Just adding a price someone posted in other thread:
around $90 for a proper 3D modeled Bettle.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6494447#post6494447

+1. Definite bargain.

And if you try to look at the work. I have some background on 3d modelling and well, you can search on turbosquid.com or other 3d sale sites, you'll see that a proper modeled 3d beetle for example, will cost you around $90 or more.

for $1, you'll receive a model, inside your game, to do whatever you want, and its programmed and scripted to work in your game.

Best bang for the buck? Impossible.

 

[Encyclopedia]

i wont buy the cars they are boring and 2 are already in

What would be an exciting dlc to you?

 

[thelvynau]

You have to admit though that they mainly fixed problems which shouldn't have been there in the first place.

There always are many ways to understand such things, it just depends on where you're coming from.

But they were also stretched for time towards the end so updates turned out to be the way to make the game improve

 

[Samus]

Simon uk you have been hammering the this should be in the game already for alot of posts and each time someone different tells you what everyone else knows is that pd didnt promise it at launch so going on about it doesnt change it

You know what also doesn't change? My opinion. No matter how many times you or others repeat the same "defence" over and over. I am entitled to my opinion on the DLC and it's cost just as you are, I don't need you or other people to keep trying to tell me why I'm wrong.

PD not promising it at launch doesn't mean it shouldn't have been there in my opinion, it just means I knew it wasn't going to be. There is a difference.

I also answered the other point you keep making about PD being paid for their work, maybe you should find it and read it before you mention it again.

 

[Rob-F1-Fan]

OH NO , PD HAVE MADE ANOTHER DLC PACK , IT COSTS 55 MILLION POUNDS BUT I HAVE NO OPTION BUT TO BUY IT !

sorry 4 caps

 

[Rudenut]

Your obversations are not lost on me.
From a purely economic standpoint, they are completely correct, and actually
worse than you have pointed out.

I paid $30 for GT4.
GT5 was already a 100% increase, being $60 at release.

So in reality, we got about 50% of GT4 actual game content, for twice the price. Not exactly a bargain.

As you point out, you have just begun paying with the $60 investment.
If you purchase all the DLC, you can reasonably estimate the game to cost another $60, before the release of the next installment.

So, thats a GT game now for quadruple the price of GT4, and content still may, or may not balance what we got in GT4.

Unfortunately, for obvious reasons, this is fast becoming the gaming trend, none of which BTW, are economically beneficial to the gamer.

Duly noted however, are many in the GT5 fanbase who are apparently predisposed to this arrangement and accept it as the reasonable norm.

Its all in how you choose to see it, but again, from a purely economic standpoint, you can factually claim;
" We're getting hosed ".

The only thing you can factually claim is that you "feel" you are getting hosed. DLC is, I believe, a reasonable alternative to a subsciption system.

I can remember when GT3 came out and thought it was less complete than GT2. Just like GT5, however, it contained more content than virtually any other game offered at the time. Although I do believe GT5 was essentially unfinished at release, I do think they are doing what they can to bring us content in a timely manner.

It may have taken awhile sure, but we are now getting decent additions and corrections. In this paradigm of online updates devs often make mistakes in patches that were not readily apparent upon rollout.

Things like the current tire crisis. I'm not even sure it was a mistake...I always considered racing softs to be qualifiers. I would welcome even more wear on them as I feel the game has moved a bit into the arcade world.

DLC is here to stay. Relating their pricing to the full release price is kind of like relating the price of bacon to an entire burger.

 

[niky]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6494447#post6494447

The mere fact that this thread already exists makes this current thread pretty redundant, no matter how long it is. Both are about DLC, and both complain about the price. Don't see the difference, really. Take it to the other thread.