PD are you for real..???

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I can't wait for the DLC to release. Thanks for the all the extra content at such a reasonable price PD!
 
Wow, that's refreshing ^^^^

yellowclone, most people that are so obviously not informed are only getting chewed up because they say this content "SHOULD" have been in the game from the start. They don't know the half of what goes on at PD headquarters and they don't get that they might not know everything.

For one and little example: "I know it was 6 years, but 3 other titles came out of PD in that 6 years also." Tourist Trophy (less work than the other two), GT PSP, GT5 Prologue.

Some people don't understand that. And if they say GT PSP was just a port of GT5 Prologue, that's not true, because of the fact that it was difficult to accomplish (standard cars before they started improving through updates, not difficult). With GT5 Prologue, is it anything like GT5? Menus, physics, OTHER things. There are too many factors that people overlook or don't take into consideration. Prologue was a piece of GT5's evolution, but it's not like they crapped it out like nothing. Tourist Trophy's physics and graphics engine were directly ported from GT4.

Nobody's perfect, and I even ignore that I've had some "heavy" arguments with people for the sake of reading the replies without being biased. It's the repeat offenders that are clearly hating GT5/PD for selfish and inconceivable reasons that don't get taken seriously. The DLC cars will most likely be about $1 each in the future, which might change. The people that keep bringing that up aren't going to change Sony's mind, though.

That's another thing. Someone has already mentioned that Kaz isn't the one that chooses how much the DLC packs cost. Or is he? Seriously, pride is useless when you're looking for an honest discussion. When someone is proved/shown wrong by more people than I can tell, it's probably best to admit to yourself that you had the wrong idea. Embarrassing, but necessary. I've been there, done that.
 
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ghostrider135
This machine testing tack as such should have been in the game to begin with no ifs no buts it was in GT4 and the idea it seems was scrapped then obviously thought of again as a way to bring in the extra dollars, The VW beetle should have been in the game as a premium from the beginning, 3 other models based on the exact or very similar floorpan to that car were put in the game so the car that was most iconic in that essence should have been in already, The upgraded to premium Jaguar Lm car there is one in the game it is an update therefore we as consumers shouldnt be charged for something that should have already been in the game or integrated into it free of charge. Disagree all you like call me ill to burn but facts are facts no matter how you sugar coat things.
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Uhhh...just because it was in all the past games doesn't mean it will automatically come up in the next game. Look at all the tracks missing from each release (SSR11, Red Rock Valley, Grindelwald, Rome Night from previous GTs are the perfect examples.) No track is safe from getting the axe, and the test course is no different.

So here's a question, why did you bother buying the game in the first place when the premium car list and track list were missing these tracks and cars. Complete or not, when you paid for the game, you paid for the product that was made at that point. PD never mentioned that all future content or in GT5 will be free. In fact, PD isn't even obligated to update the game at all and could have just left GT5 as is and went straight to GT6 development.
 
axl54
Sad story bro :(
I know people who work in insurance ....... soul destroying stuff by all reports.
He'll I understand your dull and cranky post now, chin up m8 :)
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Actually I love what I do but I'm not a door to door or cold call salesman.
 
lancia delta hf
Thats a complete rip off, But heres the thing, When you bought tiger woods you bought the finished article, Nothing was missing from the selling point, And the game wasnt advertised as having 30 courses with 15 of them being ps2 graphics, So its easy to pass on the dlc because it isnt needed to make the game feel complete.
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Well they didn't say beforehand that you actually need some of those DLC courses in order to compete in the full career mode as some career tournaments are actually on the DLC courses so I suppose the game in that respect was unfinished. So I had the choice to either buy them or skip those tournaments, personally I skipped them because I wasn't going fall for EA's extremely cheap tactic to sell their DLC, but as you can't win every career tournament without DLC I suppose you could say that it's a lot more incomplete than GT5. Imagine you couldn't complete A-Spec and B-Spec unless you had to buy a few car and track packs one week after GT5's release, trust me GT5 doesn't seem so bad now.
 
I can see where it would suck for kids, asking their parents to throw 10$ on there PSN account every few weeks for a few cars and tracks for a Video game.

But to me really, it's nothing. As long as the DLC contains NEW stuff, i'll gladly buy it. the Reventon and Route X alone are worth the $10. Think of all the things you spend $10 that you have for a short period of time, and it's gone..Nothing to show for it. Atleast this is something that can bring you enjoyment for a long time if you allow it.

Look at other racing sims were guys are paying $15+ for 1 car! If you you really sit back and think about it, can you imagine how hard it is for PD to obtain all of these cars to make premium models? Especially some of these priceless race cars. In some cases the car would have to be taken out of its museum or where ever it is, put on a truck, then shipped to Japan, the cost of that can amount very quickly. It's worth $10..
 
Wonder what these types of DLC threads would be like if there were no DLC to complain about the DLC for GT5.

Oh that's right,there would be none, Just people complaining and raging because PD won't release a DLC of any kind for GT5.

Plus you people think this is expensive? Go on playstation home, the diamond suite cost's 16.00$...For a damn suite that spews diamonds.
 
GT5 already release a year. Spec II sell DLC is use to extend game lift cycle.
This is good at all.

PD doesn't like others (e.g. EA or Namco Bandai) cut the "completed" game as a Fragments and sell these "DLC" as 20 USD for only one DL items!

Looks at Namco. don't you see they sell theirs Ridge Racer on PSV just like cut "completed" game as a lot of Fragments?
 
ghostrider135
Lets be totally frank about this people of the forum, Nobody is saying DLC is a bad idea, It is infact a great idea if somewhat extortionate, But and its a biggie we the consumers the ones who help finance Mr Yamuchi's racing past time should not have to pay for things that should 1 have been in the game from the beginning and 2 pay for upgraded versions of lets be honest pixels on a screen.

This machine testing tack as such should have been in the game to begin with no ifs no buts it was in GT4 and the idea it seems was scrapped then obviously thought of again as a way to bring in the extra dollars, The VW beetle should have been in the game as a premium from the beginning, 3 other models based on the exact or very similar floorpan to that car were put in the game so the car that was most iconic in that essence should have been in already, The upgraded to premium Jaguar Lm car there is one in the game it is an update therefore we as consumers shouldnt be charged for something that should have already been in the game or integrated into it free of charge. Disagree all you like call me ill to burn but facts are facts no matter how you sugar coat things.
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I still dont get it how come some people dont see this, i guess they started playing gt just from gt5.. the point is that pd cutt the gt4 in half and now they are selling it to us piece by piece..

I dont have a problem whit that either, im forced to bye it because its a unfinished game ( intentionally..??) but cmon, give us something worth to bye or as some are saying give us oportunity to bye what we want not the hole pack.. what vould i really do whit nissan leaf..???
 
That's it.

I'm not paying for any multiplayer maps in COD again.
They should have been in the game in the first place.

The game was half way finished 7 hours of singel player what a ripp off.....

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Gejabo
That's it.

I'm not paying for any multiplayer maps in COD again.
They should have been in the game in the first place.

The game was half way finished 7 hours of singel player what a ripp off.....

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It's £30 odd for the disc, which is just map expansions. Total ripoff the whole series.

As for GT5 DLC, don't buy it. Spa was the best DLC anyway.
 
decho
I still dont get it how come some people dont see this, i guess they started playing gt just from gt5.. the point is that pd cutt the gt4 in half and now they are selling it to us piece by piece..

I dont have a problem whit that either, im forced to bye it because its a unfinished game ( intentionally..??) but cmon, give us something worth to bye or as some are saying give us oportunity to bye what we want not the hole pack.. what vould i really do whit nissan leaf..???
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Who forced you to buy an unfinished game in the first place? PD released the track list and the car list before the game released, so you knew what you were getting when you first bought the game. Now you're saying PD's forcing you to buy DLC when you can simply not bring out your wallet.

And as a business, PD's obviously going to bundle the unpopular cars with the popular cars and sell them together to boost sales. If the Aventador and Leaf were sold separate, Leaf sales would obviously lag behind. PD isn't dumb enough to do that when they can just put everything together so you have to buy both at the same time to make more money. Come on...Business 101.

And lastly, the Nissan Leaf seems an interesting drive. If it gets RM'ed in the future, it'll be quite interesting to race it against the Prius and CR-Z.
 
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Got to agree on the dlc taking the pXXX . first dlc had 15 cars 2 tracks colours and outfits for £9.50 or so in the uk , this dlc has 1 track and 6 cars for £8 !! the cars should be sold seperate , because its obvious they will bundle 1 or 2 good cars with some other rubbish so you are forced to buy the whole pack . I agree the dlc is optional and i for one am saving the money to buy gtr3 and rfactor 2 on the pc , you wont get 8 year olds driving the wrong way round the track trying to hit you headon on those games too . by the way i love gt5 so for all you fanboys who get upset ...... dont .Spa was mega but the cart track and an oval come on proper tracks please .
 
TURBOMATIZ
Got to agree on the dlc taking the pXXX . first dlc had 15 cars 2 tracks colours and outfits for £9.50 or so in the uk , this dlc has 1 track and 6 cars for £8 !! the cars should be sold seperate , because its obvious they will bundle 1 or 2 good cars with some other rubbish so you are forced to buy the whole pack . I agree the dlc is optional and i for one am saving the money to buy gtr3 and rfactor 2 on the pc , you wont get 8 year olds driving the wrong way round the track trying to hit you headon on those games too . by the way i love gt5 so for all you fanboys who get upset ...... dont .Spa was mega but the cart track and an oval come on proper tracks please .
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This fanboy enjoyed the Kart Space track more than Spa for the drifting aspect. Please don't get upset when I say a proper track isn't chosen by you.
 
I have a sneaking suspicion that they called it Route X because its not just one track...really, has anyone but Space Empire even SEEN the track map? It won't surprise me if we find out that Route X is essentially all of the old Motorland from GT4...

And, btw, just watching the videos that feature the "oval" show VERY clearly that there's elevation changes on it, which means that it is NOT the Test Track from previous generations.

Seriously folks, DLC is something that's here to stay. You don't have to buy it if you don't want to, but personally I'm going to be buying every bit of it, just to support PD. The more we support them, the more they'll release, and the more money they'll have to build GT6.

Oh, if you want another case of a company screwing over its players, try playing Test Drive Unlimited 2 on PS3 sometime. Let's see...the only way to really make money in the game is the casino ($10 off PSN, but its on the disc), which only 3/4 works (Roulette is broken, and has been pretty much since the game was released, but they won't fix it on PS3). If you want all the cars that are on the disc, you're going to drop another $20 on DLC (.99 each). And when they decide to update the game, PC and XBox will get the update, and they'll screw around for 2-3 extra months to release a broken version of the same thing on PS3, for more money than PC and XBox paid. So yeah, PD is REALLY screwing us over compared to that! :|
 
Nobody is saying the new track is physically the same as the original test track, what we're saying is they could, if they had chosen to, have included a tarted up version of that original track on the GT5 disc along with the relevant tests. Then we would have had the system on the disc just like every other previous game. Instead they chose not to do that but are now releasing a new version of the track and the exact same tests for extra money.

As I've already said, I'd like to use the facility but i'm not paying £3.20 extra for the privilege. Something similar could have and should have been on the disc.
 
I agree 100%, the ability to test your car's 1/4 mile, etc. in a racing game (where tuning is everything might I add) SHOULD NOT be a paid privilege.

Paying for additional cars and tracks I have NO problems with and makes all the sense in the world, but to charge people for core functionality that has been an integral part of every GT ever launched is not right.
 
suck it up princess. Pay the $10 for the new DLC, or forever endure with your "incomplete" game. what a bunch of BS...

Thank you PD. The update and the DLC are going to be awesome, let the numbers speak for themselves. I've already added the funds to my PSN wallet.
 
Also to the people who keep saying "Do you expect PD to work for free?" and "They should be paid for their work", do you really think they are paid by the item? PD can obviously afford to pay their employees no matter what DLC they are or aren't selling. They received the bulk of our money with sales of the game originally.

Also they're probably working on GT6 assets at the moment but we won't be paying for them for a while, does that mean they're creating those for free at the moment? No, they're receiving a wage for their work just like any other company.

So yes, PD employees should be paid but the notion that giving this track away for free or at a cheaper price would mean they are working for free is ridiculous.
 
I agree with the OP. Thankfully, after Spa, everything else in DLC is non-interesting for the actual racer in GT.
 
SuperSic
after Spa, everything else in DLC is non-interesting for the actual racer in GT.
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Can I please ask you to elaborate and describe to me what do you mean by the bolded part - The Actual Racer in GT™.

What is The Actual Racer in GT™? What kind of person is *him*? What makes him so "Actual" when compared to... what would be the right word here... hm... "fake"?

Is the The Actual Racer in GT™ some special species? I mean, I would be love to consider myself as The Actual Racer in GT™, but since I bought all DLC and I am looking forward to this one as well, I see that maybe I have very high opinion about myself. Am I fake? What should I do to become The Actual Racer in GT™?

Please help me with the advice and guide to become Actual™, thank you in advance! 👍
 
amar212
Can I please ask you to elaborate and describe to me what do you mean by the bolded part - The Actual Racer in GT™.

What is The Actual Racer in GT™? What kind of person is *him*? What makes him so "Actual" when compared to... what would be the right word here... hm... "fake"?

Is the The Actual Racer in GT™ some special species? I mean, I would be love to consider myself as The Actual Racer in GT™, but since I bought all DLC and I am looking forward to this one as well, I see that maybe I have very high opinion about myself. Am I fake? What should I do to become The Actual Racer in GT™?

Please help me with the advice and guide to become Actual™, thank you in advance! 👍
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People who are only interested in racing, obviously.
 
Well pricing is mainly based on supply and demand, if demand is low, then pricing would be adjusted to encourage purchases. So for the people who are saying DLC's costing too much and not worth the price, if the majority of the community is happy with the pricing and DLC sales are strong, that's really too bad for you.

No matter how unhappy you are and how much complaining you do, PD doesn't need to lower DLC prices for you as long as they reach a certain sales level. You're just one out of millions of customers, your one decision is not gonna make PD reap huge profits or face bankruptcy.
 
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