PD are you for real..???

[swiftwilly]

for every DLC we going to have a thread like this?

blah blah blah

 

[smyth]

I wonder why happened before the days of the Internet. Where did everyone complain about video games? But the again I guess back then every game came out bug free and worth every penny. /sarcasm

Seriously though, what would anyone here think if someone sat around all day saying they do good work but really the end product of their effort should be free. Whether pumping gas or performing surgery nobody wants to hear that what they are doing isn't worth getting a paycheck for it.

Personally I am work in insurance. I make money to sell a policy. Then I service the policy. Guess what? I keep getting a paycheck to service the policy. The work doesn't end at the sale and neither does the pay.

 

[another_jakhole]

I wonder why happened before the days of the Internet. Where did everyone complain about video games? But the again I guess back then every game came out bug free and worth every penny. /sarcasm

Seriously though, what would anyone here think if someone sat around all day saying they do good work but really the end product of their effort should be free. Whether pumping gas or performing surgery nobody wants to hear that what they are doing isn't worth getting a paycheck for it.

Personally I am work in insurance. I make money to sell a policy. Then I service the policy. Guess what? I keep getting a paycheck to service the policy. The work doesn't end at the sale and neither does the pay.

/thread

 

[masterrawad]

for those who rush PD, i'd like to say this.

How about YOU try to get 6 high detailed cars and a whole giant track in under two months with only a few people. how about YOU spend millions just to keep people content with more content (haha, get it?). how about YOU fix the problem if it displeases you instead of bitching about it.

 

[ChoShoTamashi]

After going through so many "GT5 is incomplete/ DLC should've been free." threads, this is the conclusion I have come up with. For those who don't like to pay for DLC and thinks GT5 is an incomplete game, please do this for all games in the future and don't make the same mistake of getting "ripped off" by game developers again:

"Don't buy games at launch at a high price with no DLC included. Buy the Complete Edition which includes all the DLCs when it comes out at a lower price 2 or 3 years after initial release date."

 

[Chad D.]

No, its called Route X. It can be whatever you want it to be. Daytona could be a test track. Top Gear could be a test track. You can test almost anything you want pretty much at any track.

Top Gear Test Track could be a test track? lol, sorry, I just had too.

That aside, yeah, I'm not sure how it's so hard for people to use tracks like Daytona as a test track, hell, if you wanna do a speed test, use the backstraight of Sarthe, or the front and back straight of Indy, it's not that hard.

 

[tw1sted]

I only play GT, and I don't care about spending more money to keep me interested on playing the only game I really like. So, DLC packs are for people like me... If anyone doesn't want it, they don't have to buy it

 

[another_jakhole]

In the end, if the OP is so unhappy with the decision with DLC, then maybe he should have waited for the the XL or Spec II edition of GT5 which included some DLC and updates for a cheaper price.

I mean, XL's only $39.99 USD or 4,980 yen, and you get all the updates and DLC cars up to 2.02. Compared to paying $60 launch price for GT5 1.0, it's a steal to get GT5 2.03 for $40.

OP, that's my suggestion for you when GT6 comes out. Don't purchase the game on release date. Wait a year or two for PD to release a GT6 Complete edition with all the DLC, then purchase it. It'll most likely cost less than when the game first comes out, and you'll get all the goodies in a complete game. Then you won't feel ripped off with your money.

I commented how that would, basically, be an impractical thing to do.

That's why your reply ends perfectly.

 

[lancia delta hf]

In the interest of fainess.

I'm confused how everyone complaining seems to not realize this.

Forza 4 60$
XBL subscription 50$
12 car pack... 12*7= 84$

Are you happy now?

You cant include xbl sub in the comparison as its nothing to do with forza, Plus they're dlc has been good and not lame like PD's first two dlc's.

I know, I buy each years Tiger Woods PGA game every year and sure enough a week after release the DLC starts rolling out, usually 1 course is about £4 or £5 and on average there's about 20 DLC courses in total, but here's the thing, I don't complain about them because I don't think it's worth it, I just don't buy them. It a simple solution and it works and would work just as well with GT5 for the people who complain about DLC.

Thats a complete rip off, But heres the thing, When you bought tiger woods you bought the finished article, Nothing was missing from the selling point, And the game wasnt advertised as having 30 courses with 15 of them being ps2 graphics, So its easy to pass on the dlc because it isnt needed to make the game feel complete.

wow. this complaint is same as this:

Dear Ferrari S.p.A,
since I can't afford any of your cars, please do not develop/produce your cars anymore.
sincerly,
Selfish-ignorant being

For your example to be similar it would have to look like this,

Dear ferrari S.p.A,
Since i bought a ferrari 458 which is advertised with 7 gears, I am somewhat disappointed that it has some missing gears, And no cockpit,and you are going to offer me the chance to 'buy' a nicely polished ferreri 458 with 7 gears and a cockpit rather than complete the car for free that i thought i was buying!


Now the situation we have here is entirely pd's fault, The game that was released in november 2010 would have been a great game if it was made by a new comer to the market, But it was made by a company that has considerable financial backing and 15 years exprience with this game, They have created this situation, If gt5 was as good as what gt4 on gt4's release then people would see dlc as a take it or leave it scenario, At least i would because gt5 doesnt offer me enough, and dont use that crap '1000 car' argument, i use cockpit view and i also use a ps3 not ps2 so for me only 250 cars is the selling point the standards are there just to make the numbers look better,

PD are simply not quenching my thirst, and by all the complaints i guess they are leaving a lot of people thirsty,

They are giving us measly dlc each time and racknig up the money, Its no good comparing prices to other dlc either because all you're doing is comparing prices to other ripp off merchants and that doesnt mean we are getting a good deal, You need to compare it to the price of the game, which is £40 with a marketed 1000 cars and 70 track, So by dlc pricing this game should have cost me over £1000, So as you can see the dlc prices for the quantity is far off!

 

[Carlos Fandango]

On a side note, for those that didn't want to buy the first track pack, there are currently three seasonal events using the Spa track that you have access to...for free!

 

[axl54]

I wonder why happened before the days of the Internet. Where did everyone complain about video games? But the again I guess back then every game came out bug free and worth every penny. /sarcasm

Seriously though, what would anyone here think if someone sat around all day saying they do good work but really the end product of their effort should be free. Whether pumping gas or performing surgery nobody wants to hear that what they are doing isn't worth getting a paycheck for it.

Personally I am work in insurance. I make money to sell a policy. Then I service the policy. Guess what? I keep getting a paycheck to service the policy. The work doesn't end at the sale and neither does the pay.

Sad story bro
I know people who work in insurance ....... soul destroying stuff by all reports.
He'll I understand your dull and cranky post now, chin up m8

 

[another_jakhole]

They are giving us measly dlc each time and racknig up the money, Its no good comparing prices to other dlc either because all you're doing is comparing prices to other ripp off merchants and that doesnt mean we are getting a good deal, You need to compare it to the price of the game, which is £40 with a marketed 1000 cars and 70 track, So by dlc pricing this game should have cost me over £1000, So as you can see the dlc prices for the quantity is far off!

Can we do that for other games, too?

Sad story bro
I know people who work in insurance ....... soul destroying stuff by all reports.
He'll I understand your dull and cranky post now, chin up m8

Ok, then. Cool story,.,..,.., bro?

Completely off-topic and obviously, you're too proud and not good enough for yourself to have kept yourself from making that reply. And I only said that, because well, ha ha you're acting like a child.

 

[lancia delta hf]

for those who rush PD, i'd like to say this.

How about YOU try to get 6 high detailed cars and a whole giant track in under two months with only a few people. how about YOU spend millions just to keep people content with more content (haha, get it?). how about YOU fix the problem if it displeases you instead of bitching about it.

Such a silly post these types of posts are, Why dont you make your own game etc, if you go to hospital for an opp and the surgeon messes it up are you goona fix it yourself rather than complain?

Sure there are some silly complaints on gtp but anyone who has invested money in gt has a right to not only complain but expect better, Good dlc is needed to make the initial outlay on the game worth it for some people, this game has been out for over a year, We should have a game by now where there isnt much room for anymore want from this edition of the gt series,

 

[lancia delta hf]

Can we do that for other games, too?


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Offcourse you can, But its irrelevant isnt it! If this was a thread about dlc and games companies in general then it would be only fair to bring other games into play, But its about gt,

If you strictly want to compare it to other dlc prices then compare it to dlc on playstation@home, those prices are scandelous

PS. i will be buy this dlc because the test track will provide me with more photo opps, im looking forward to this dlc but at the same time i want more, i want one big dlc pack, 5-6 tracks (must have seattle), 10-15 new cars

 

[axl54]

Can we do that for other games, too?




Ok, then. Cool story,.,..,.., bro?

Completely off-topic and obviously, you're too proud and not good enough for yourself to have kept yourself from making that reply. And I only said that, because well, ha ha you're acting like a child.

Looks like somebody forgot to take their meds again.

 

[Chad D.]

Looks like somebody forgot to take their meds again.

I'm assuming that would be you -_-

 

[axl54]

I'm assuming that would be you -_-

Oh Zing,your hilarious !
:|

 

[albteman015]

I agree with you completely.

Have we all not been through this sort of discussion on the forum before? Do you really want to know why Sony and PD release DLC that is unsatisfactory? Because they can. Lets take Apple as an example. Every time a new iPod is released by them it's very basic. Then that iPod gets a camera and then a touch screen and so on. They have the technical capability of releasing the best version when they want but they chose not to do so. There will always be people out there who will buy the latest version as soon as it is on the shelves even though they have the previous product. As long as Pd see a market for DLC , we are going to pay for it. Once no one wants to buy it because it is either to expensive or it will just plain suck, they will most likely cease to continue it. It is good business. If you owned the company and wanted to make as much profit as possible , you would do the same thing. Deal with it.

We live in a world where pharmaceutical companies will not make vaccines that could save lives because the cost of development is too much for them to make a profit from. A game DLC Should be the least of our problems. How about a suggestion! If you did not like this game, next time you look to invest in a recreational driving sim , pick something else. 💡

 

[another_jakhole]

Offcourse you can, But its irrelevant isnt it! If this was a thread about dlc and games companies in general then it would be only fair to bring other games into play, But its about gt,

If you strictly want to compare it to other dlc prices then compare it to dlc on playstation@home, those prices are scandelous

PS. i will be buy this dlc because the test track will provide me with more photo opps, im looking forward to this dlc but at the same time i want more, i want one big dlc pack, 5-6 tracks (must have seattle), 10-15 new cars

Completely reasonable (the PS Home and looking forward to more part), except for the first part. It's still cheaper than most other DLC, and also, considering the free updates that come with the optional DLC. Like some people have pointed out, Dirt3 made you pay to play a certain event. Well, in the past year, we've gotten a ton of free content + fixes for free. Fixes should, obviously, be free.

I'm assuming that would be you -_-

Yea what was up with that? I mean, I don't take meds. I stopped smoking grass as frequently, though. That was months ago, so I think my problem is that I replied to someone as ignorant as him. I thought that guy was older than me, too.


He's not worthy of my reply. He's not even worthy of my time to put him on my ignore list. In all fairness, I don't do that to anybody.

 

[ghostrider135]

Lets be totally frank about this people of the forum, Nobody is saying DLC is a bad idea, It is infact a great idea if somewhat extortionate, But and its a biggie we the consumers the ones who help finance Mr Yamuchi's racing past time should not have to pay for things that should 1 have been in the game from the beginning and 2 pay for upgraded versions of lets be honest pixels on a screen.

This machine testing tack as such should have been in the game to begin with no ifs no buts it was in GT4 and the idea it seems was scrapped then obviously thought of again as a way to bring in the extra dollars, The VW beetle should have been in the game as a premium from the beginning, 3 other models based on the exact or very similar floorpan to that car were put in the game so the car that was most iconic in that essence should have been in already, The upgraded to premium Jaguar Lm car there is one in the game it is an update therefore we as consumers shouldnt be charged for something that should have already been in the game or integrated into it free of charge. Disagree all you like call me ill to burn but facts are facts no matter how you sugar coat things.

 

[Cowboys965]

I think PD is great, don't even get me started on EA...

 

[JDMKING13]

Lets be totally frank about this people of the forum, Nobody is saying DLC is a bad idea, It is infact a great idea if somewhat extortionate, But and its a biggie we the consumers the ones who help finance Mr Yamuchi's racing past time should not have to pay for things that should 1 have been in the game from the beginning and 2 pay for upgraded versions of lets be honest pixels on a screen.

This machine testing tack as such should have been in the game to begin with no ifs no buts it was in GT4 and the idea it seems was scrapped then obviously thought of again as a way to bring in the extra dollars, The VW beetle should have been in the game as a premium from the beginning, 3 other models based on the exact or very similar floorpan to that car were put in the game so the car that was most iconic in that essence should have been in already, The upgraded to premium Jaguar Lm car there is one in the game it is an update therefore we as consumers shouldnt be charged for something that should have already been in the game or integrated into it free of charge. Disagree all you like call me ill to burn but facts are facts no matter how you sugar coat things.

All you stated where opinions.

 

[ghostrider135]

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All you stated where opinions.

Maybe so but valid points in MY OPINION were put forward.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I agree with those who say that we should have the option to either buy a whole car pack or each car separately. I hope PD considers this in the future. I'm still buying this DLC, but there are a couple of cars in it that I could live without.

 

[JDMKING13]

Maybe so but valid points in MY OPINION were put forward.

Whatever, you said it's a fact and that is far from the truth period.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Maybe so but valid points in MY OPINION were put forward.

Not really as all of that content wasn't even ready for release. Also giving it for free wouldn't do PD as a a business too well.

 

[JDMKING13]

Not really as all of that content wasn't even ready for release. Also giving it for free wouldn't do PD as a a business too well.

This is what people are missing, We also get free updates with hidden new features. It doesn't matter if it is T10 PD etc it is DLC take it for what it's worth.

 

[yellowclone]

Are you guys serious? Do you really think that DLC was planned by PD all along? PD is not the real beneficiary here, it is Sony. Consumers wanted DLC, Kaz did not want DLC, he said he would put what he wanted on the disc, and that he was not a fan of DLC. Fans begged for DLC. Sony saw this begging and told Kaz to get some DLC out there. Please do not blame PD for the price or even the fact of having DLC, they are just doing what they are told. I am sure PD gets some say in what goes into the DLC.

I don't like other games that come out every year with slightly more content *cough, cough* EA, and have to pay full price for it each time. I would rather have a great core game that is improved over time with great support, and pay a little every month or so for new content.

I don't think that PD purposely held back content for the purpose of DLC. I think they had some content that was almost ready at release, but did not make it into the game. I am also sure they were fine just including it in GT6, but was forced to slowly release some more content to make Sony and its customers happy.

*Edit* Others saying that the test track should have been in the game at release because it was in GT4. Take a look at the NEW track, it is not a polished up port from GT4, it is a brand new track, from scratch. It might have been in the process of being made at release, but if it was finished, it would have been on the disc. Kaz has said many time that they ran out of time, and they didn't get everything they wanted on the disc. I know it was 6 years, but 3 other titles came out of PD in that 6 years also. I think PD is doing a great job, and I will continue to support them as long as I keep feeling they are doing the best they can.

 

[Cowboys965]

Are you guys serious? Do you really think that DLC was planned by PD all along? PD is not the real beneficiary here, it is Sony. Consumers wanted DLC, Kaz did not want DLC, he said he would put what he wanted on the disc, and that he was not a fan of DLC. Fans begged for DLC. Sony saw this begging and told Kaz to get some DLC out there. Please do not blame PD for the price or even the fact of having DLC, they are just doing what they are told. I am sure PD gets some say in what goes into the DLC.

I don't like other games that come out every year with slightly more content *cough, cough* EA, and have to pay full price for it each time. I would rather have a great core game that is improved over time with great support, and pay a little every month or so for new content.

I don't think that PD purposely held back content for the purpose of DLC. I think they had some content that was almost ready at release, but did not make it into the game. I am also sure they were fine just including it in GT6, but was forced to slowly release some more content to make Sony and its customers happy.

That's what I think. I think it's good. It's not a pre-made money scheme. It's actually made for us, then given. 👍 Another reason I love PD.

 

[Chad D.]

Oh Zing,your hilarious !
:|

I know right?