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Please don't. The console vs PC debate is incredibly tiresome and tedious.

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Can we debate about prices we pay for video games? Why it's always much more expensive on console that for PC and the difference between PS3 and x360??
 
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Can we debate about prices we pay for video games? Why it's always much more expensive on console that for PC and the difference between PS3 and x360??
Sony and Microsoft want to see money. On PC it's only the publisher.
 
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Can we debate about prices we pay for video games? Why it's always much more expensive on console that for PC and the difference between PS3 and x360??

SimCity $60 on PC is just plain stupid! EA can forget me buying that game for my daughter. And then there is the nickel and dime'ing with DLC...
 
Some games are worth to buy them and some are not. Damn Aliens Colonial Marines. :sick:

For example Tomb Raider easily blow my mind away, and i would pay extra money for story lined DLC. I have no problems with that. But sometimes the prices are just ridicules.
 
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Some games are worth to buy them and some are not. Damn Aliens Colonial Marines. :sick:

For example Tomb Raider easily blow my mind away, and i would pay extra money for story lined DLC. I have no problems with that. But sometimes the prices are just ridicules.

I shall be getting Tomb Raider for free when I get my graphics card :D DLC in my opinion should be content that the developers decided to put in for the fun of it because they suddenly have a great idea. I hate it when DLC is planned from before the game's release because it means they are over overcharging for something that should have been in the game in the first place.

Just my two cents :)
 
I think Ubisoft are really on to something with their smaller than usual games that retail for less than half the price of a big game. Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon was excellent and priced perfectly, I felt I got far more value for money out of that than I did with Far Cry 3 itself. Well, no, I got FC3 for ÂŁ5 (a pricing error), but if I'd paid full price I would have been seriously disappointed. Apparently Call of Juarez: Gunslinger is decent too, also priced at ÂŁ12.

The thing is, a lot of ÂŁ30-35 games are a five hour singleplayer campaign (which is really just a tutorial for the multiplayer) tacked on to yet another multiplayer mode with a co-op horde mode. So if you're the type who feels like there is such a thing as far too many multiplayer games does exist (I've regressed completely and only play Borderlands 2 online now), ÂŁ12 for a five hour singleplayer game is an amazing deal.

Then again Sony I think nailed it when they made Uncharted 3 free to play. In my opinion, free to play is a good way of doing competitive multiplayer as long as it's done right. You can then buy the singleplayer mode at a discount (is it ÂŁ15?), and that's a really nice way of doing it. If, say, Crysis 3 had done the same, they would've had ÂŁ15 from me for that. I guess the problem is they need to be sure that people will spend enough on the free to play section to make it viable. Some multiplayer games are dead almost on arrival because of superior alternatives after all, Sony had the benefit of monitoring how people were playing before it became free to play so they could make predictions, a brand new game doing the same thing might not succeed. For instance, how is Ghost Recon Online doing these days?
 
I shall be getting Tomb Raider for free when I get my graphics card :D DLC in my opinion should be content that the developers decided to put in for the fun of it because they suddenly have a great idea. I hate it when DLC is planned from before the game's release because it means they are over overcharging for something that should have been in the game in the first place.

Just my two cents :)

Your two cents are worth a 100$ now, you make it good point there completely 👍 Is there any Like button that i can click ?? :sly:

In adventure game i like more single player and story line, on line exist for me only in racing games. But on line in Tomb Raider was a blast despite the fact it is really bad, i meet few great and funny people while i was killing them and they killed me, we chat we laugh we offend and troll. :) Really fun time in not really good on line game.
 
I think PC games are cheaper because if the game is cheaper, fewer people would pirate it since PC is the easiest platform to pirate games for.
 
I think PC games are cheaper because if the game is cheaper, fewer people would pirate it since PC is the easiest platform to pirate games for.

That is not a good reason, the publishers ask far too much money for games on console. Just for that reason somewhere deep inside of me I'm hoping piracy will be rampant on the next gen and both sony and ms lose a brickton of money to make them think twice about pricing their games in such a retarded fashion. NO game should cost more than 40 bucks, none.
 
That is not a good reason, the publishers ask far too much money for games on console. Just for that reason somewhere deep inside of me I'm hoping piracy will be rampant on the next gen and both sony and ms lose a brickton of money to make them think twice about pricing their games in such a retarded fashion. NO game should cost more than 40 bucks, none.

Why? Who are you to decide how much a game should cost?

If people buy games at $60, and clearly they do, why would they charge less?
 
I think PC games are cheaper because if the game is cheaper, fewer people would pirate it since PC is the easiest platform to pirate games for.

No. It's because Microsoft and Sony (and probably Nintendo) get a chunk of the profit for every game sold on their respective consoles.
 
I've noticed that few games lately appeared on psn and in video games shops, but prices on psn were much higher than it's boxed version. :scared:

You can do nothing with digital copy of that game after you've finish with it. 👎 At least disc version could be always sold to someone, or returned to shop. 👍
 
I've noticed that few games lately appeared on psn and in video games shops, but prices on psn were much higher than it's boxed version. :scared:

You can do nothing with digital copy of that game after you've finish with it. 👎 At least disc version could be always sold to someone, or returned to shop. 👍

Yeah, because if it were available cheaper digitally, the physical retailers would throw a fit and stop stocking games because they're being undercut. That would be bad for the console manufacturers because they still sell a significant number of consoles in actual shops rather than over the internet, I guess.

I can't imagine why else they'd not want to cut out physical retail because, as you say, it would kill the used game market dead without any overly drastic measures such as the ones we're finding out about with the next gen consoles.
 
Well, one would think that digital media would kill off the notion that us aussies pay more for stuff because of our proximity, but no. From memory, I think the digital copy of Battlefield 3 is around AU$110 (AU$ approximately equal to US$). Yep, that bad.

The worst I have ever seen for a new release game? Virtua Racing for Megadrive came out (early 90s no less) at AU$299.
 
Why? Who are you to decide how much a game should cost?

If people buy games at $60, and clearly they do, why would they charge less?

That's because I'm part of the market. If the rest of the market wouldn't accept these prices and not buy the games, guess what, games would be cheaper. People are just let's say not so smart to put it nicely.

Also people like you honestly annoy me. Not you personally, but consumers in general that don't act like consumers but more like fangirls/boys and buy anything no matter how retarded the price gets.

Do not forget which side of the buyer/seller side you're on. There should be no reason at all for any consumer out there wanting to support these greedy publishers and ceo's. Intelligent consumers should always be lookng to get the most content for the smallest price. Basically being smart shoppers. Gamers nowadays seem to be anything but smart.
 
That's because I'm part of the market. If the rest of the market wouldn't accept these prices and not buy the games, guess what, games would be cheaper. People are just let's say not so smart to put it nicely.

Also people like you honestly annoy me. Not you personally, but consumers in general that don't act like consumers but more like fangirls/boys and buy anything no matter how retarded the price gets.

Do not forget which side of the buyer/seller side you're on. There should be no reason at all for any consumer out there wanting to support these greedy publishers and ceo's. Intelligent consumers should always be lookng to get the most content for the smallest price. Basically being smart shoppers. Gamers nowadays seem to be anything but smart.

And if the cheapest price is through another "evil" massive corporation? Sometimes paying more is the stupid way, sometimes it is the ethical and sustainable way.

Also, you don't realise that the lower mean price paid for games will raise the mean price of dlc and the greater cavity left in release versions to be filled with dlc? Punched by a left or right hand is no different to me. They find a way, and if they don't, they collapse, and we all lose.

It's not simple, and consumer selfishness is as much to blame as corporate greed.
 
No it's not, corporate greed is to blame far more than consumer selfishness. Budgetting products properly like in a real business should easily allow corporations to make their money while not screwing over the consumer.

The reason the prices are this high is because the corporations can make even more money than they used to be able to make before. It has absolutely nothing to do with this so called increase in costs in making the games, which is just bs. This is just a bs lie to convince consumers that in order to make these games they need to ask the consumer for more money, or offer less game in return.

In short they just want even more money than they are already making.
 
I don't understand why people discuss pricing. They really are free to charge whatever they like, ok? Let them. Let them charge $100 per game if they feel like it.

And then we will decide if we pay up or not.
 
Also people like you honestly annoy me. Not you personally, but consumers in general that don't act like consumers but more like fangirls/boys and buy anything no matter how retarded the price gets.

I most certainly do not do that. Technically the RRP of a game in the UK is ÂŁ44.99, I've never once paid that price, I usually never pay more than ÂŁ35 even on day one because it's not worth it. For many games i'll wait until they're ÂŁ25 or less.

Yes games are still a luxury item and not cheap but all I'm saying is if the price is determined fair by millions of consumers that they'll part with their cash then the price is fair. Your notion that no game should cost more than $40 isn't one developers are going to agree with and not one I agree with on the most part. A great game is definitely worth ÂŁ35 to me. It's certainly better value than a ÂŁ15 Blu-Ray or CD.
 
Another, probably stupid question.

How long will it be, after the PS4 is launched, before they stop making PS3 games? đź’ˇ
 
Another, probably stupid question.

How long will it be, after the PS4 is launched, before they stop making PS3 games? đź’ˇ

Impossible to say. First party devs probably by mid 2014, third party devs like EA will probably keep making PS3 versions of their franchise games for years to come, just like they did for PS2.
 
It has absolutely nothing to do with this so called increase in costs in making the games, which is just bs. This is just a bs lie to convince consumers that in order to make these games they need to ask the consumer for more money, or offer less game in return.

And of course you have proof to the contrary of the claim that costs have increased in recent years or just more opinion?
 
And of course you have proof to the contrary of the claim that costs have increased in recent years or just more opinion?

Of course he doesn't. You don't need a to be a genius to work out making a game with the size and scope modern games have takes more time and effort than it did to make a PS1 game, which in turn took more time and effort than it did to make pong.

These highly detailed, huge polygon assets don't just make themselves you know Musolini.
 
Another, probably stupid question.

How long will it be, after the PS4 is launched, before they stop making PS3 games? đź’ˇ

There is usually a mainstream overlap for like 3-4 years where lots of new titles also get a released on the last gen consoles but after that it starts to be things like children's games, sports games, 3rd party titles only etc.

The PS2 enjoyed massive support for years and years after the PS3 came out and there is stuff still being released on it today. The PS3 probably won't last as long because it never had that massive success and also the CELL is still challenging to code for.
 
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