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brianwong
At 2 PS4s you could probably build an extremely capable PC that absolutely curb stomps the Xbox One and PS4, especially if Sony is trying to make a profit on the console. Also, I'm pretty sure you need Thunderbolt or DisplayPort for 4K at a decent frame rate.
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Lol, why switch to another connector when the current HDMI works fine?

I'm sure they'll update it to 'HDMI 2.0' or something to support 4K resolution, much like the update for USB 3.0.
 
The cheapest supercomputer was made by connecting 300 ps3's with each other. Still pretty expensive but cheap for a product like this.
 
kennylmao
Lol, why switch to another connector when the current HDMI works fine?

I'm sure they'll update it to 'HDMI 2.0' or something to support 4K resolution, much like the update for USB 3.0.
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HDMI 1.4a can already do 4K, just at 24 fps and no more, so the PS4 can already do 4K media (films are typically shot at 24fps). As far as I know HDMI 2.0 isn't ready so it's not like Sony can jump the gun on it in case the standard changes.

Switching to Thunderbolt or Displayport gives them the throughput without the hassle of HDMI 2.0, but it'll never happen because TVs don't tend to have connectors for either.
 
Musolini187
The cheapest supercomputer was made by connecting 300 ps3's with each other. Still pretty expensive but cheap for a product like this.
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Oh. When I was reading through the recent posts I was going to share this fact. But you beat me to it -.- lol
 
So a 1.6GHz CPU built on architecture that is not optimized for performance per clock combined with a hypothetical Radeon HD7860 (GPU performance is in between a 7850 and a 7870) is somehow more powerful than any decent gaming PC?
 
Are we really back to the tiresome "PCs are better than consoles" discussions again? Yes, they are, let's move on and discuss the consoles as the thread is intended for.
 
I'm quite interested in the Vita but it's still too expensive for me, my brother has one that he rarely uses though so maybe I could just... Liberate it. I only want one for remote play, GT PSP, Metal Gear games and Wipeout so that's not really worth the money to me, seeing as most of those games are PSP games. It's not a bad piece of kit though, really.
 
I just wish they make every Vita game also available on the PS4 so we can play Persona 4 Golden on the big screen, would be unfair for all the ps4 games to be on vita yet vita get's exclusives. Hope!
 
By "remote play", I really hope they mean play it on the train rather than play it in a different room. If it's the former, I'll buy a vita at some point but if it's the latter, I'll pass.
 
Shirrako
I just wish they make every Vita game also available on the PS4 so we can play Persona 4 Golden on the big screen, would be unfair for all the ps4 games to be on vita yet vita get's exclusives. Hope!
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Vita needs all the exclusives it can get.

F1 fan
By "remote play", I really hope they mean play it on the train rather than play it in a different room. If it's the former, I'll buy a vita at some point but if it's the latter, I'll pass.
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while input latency is cut down considerably owing to the localised nature of the network.
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Sounds like the latter to me.
 
Well Vita remote play for me is pretty laggy.
Turn based strategy would work ok. FPS or racing game wouldn't be good.

I'm obviously talking PS3 here so the jury's out for what extra PS4 could bring to the table.

I only have the Wi-Fi Vita, but I imagine 3G would be useless anyhow. I think they've stopped or are stopping production of 3G models so that says a lot.
 
F1 fan
By "remote play", I really hope they mean play it on the train rather than play it in a different room. If it's the former, I'll buy a vita at some point but if it's the latter, I'll pass.
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I would say it is the latter as the PS4 will still be doing the computing not the Vita.
 
It can still be the former.

For example, watching movies, trailers, buying things, browsing the internet with what hopefully is a browser that's miles better than what's currently on the PS3, things like that.

If latency issues can be sorted out, then yes, also gaming.
 
What can be and what is likely or practical are very different things most of the time.
 
brianwong
So a 1.6GHz CPU built on architecture that is not optimized for performance per clock combined with a hypothetical Radeon HD7860 (GPU performance is in between a 7850 and a 7870) is somehow more powerful than any decent gaming PC?
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No. However, no matter how much money you put into a PC the same games will still run on a lowend machine at a fraction of price. The difference is No PC game will have a minimum requirement of 8GB of ram (and make use of it) for a long time. No PC game will require a 1 Tereflop GPU just to run at the lowest possible settings any time soon. Only benefit to a high end gaming PC is frame rate and resolution, games aren't deigned around it.
 
LaBounti
No. However, no matter how much money you put into a PC the same games will still run on a lowend machine at a fraction of price. The difference is No PC game will have a minimum requirement of 8GB of ram (and make use of it) for a long time. No PC game will require a 1 Teraflop GPU just to run at the lowest possible settings any time soon. Only benefit to a high end gaming PC is frame rate and resolution, games aren't deigned around it.
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First, a low end machine will still run it, but it will run it at extremely low settings. I would love to see a low end machine run BF3.

1 TFLOP is nothing in terms of GPU power. The hypothetical Radeon HD "7860" (doesn't exist, but it's what I call the GPU in the PS4 because it's performance is in between a 7850 and 7870) performs worse than a 7870. Keep in mind PC games have graphics options. Most gaming machines have 8GB of RAM anyway because DDR3 is quite cheap at $5/GB, and can easily be upgraded since 2x4 is the average configuration and most motherboards have 4 RAM slots.
 
Ok. PCs are the god of machinery and consoles will never compare and their hardware will always be behind PC. We get it.

Can we move along please?
 
brianwong
First, a low end machine will still run it, but it will run it at extremely low settings. I would love to see a low end machine run BF3.

1 TFLOP is nothing in terms of GPU power. The hypothetical Radeon HD "7860" (doesn't exist, but it's what I call the GPU in the PS4 because it's performance is in between a 7850 and 7870) performs worse than a 7870. Keep in mind PC games have graphics options. Most gaming machines have 8GB of RAM anyway because DDR3 is quite cheap at $5/GB, and can easily be upgraded since 2x4 is the average configuration and most motherboards have 4 RAM slots.
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Right. But you missed my point as expected. Thank you for the spell check :)...
 
Eks
Ok. PCs are the god of machinery and consoles will never compare and their hardware will always be behind PC. We get it.

Can we move along please?
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Yeah, his original post seemed to come out of nowhere. But I knew what it was about. Sorry, could not resist. I'll leave it alone, a simple re-read for him is all he has to do.

Samus
Please don't. The console vs PC debate is incredibly tiresome and tedious.
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For you sir I will leave it as is.👍
 

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