Porsche the big colaboration with PD... what's next??

[Quakebass]

The Porsche license was only acquired late in development.

Do we know that?

Shown by the fact the Gr.3 911 only arrived post release.

It was in at launch. The only post-launch Porsches were the '01 and '08 911 GT3s added in the September update.

With cars taking upto 12 months to model the last batch of 911’s where likely the first opportunity to release anything new.

Last I recall modeling generally would only take up to six months per car, the only process that has been claimed to take longer is when PD are making a fictional race car based on a road car (Alfa 4C, Jag F-Type, VW Beetle, etc), which the GT3 RSR is not.

 

[Brzlav]

My gripe is with the lack or Porsche races in GT League. There are several Porsche cars in the game and yet only 1 can be used in GT League. I mean you can use the GR1 too but you won't actually win with it.

Why wouldn't you win the Gr. 1 races with the 919? I did the Le Mans endurance one with the TS050 which is a bit slower afaik and the Gr. 1 non-endurance races were fairly easy with the 787b (which should also be slower).

 

[snowgt]

Unused? Well, let’s just assume that the work effort to create a new car model is really 6 months and that one person is doing that exclusively, like PD said, and that 1 year before release of the original game they knew they would have the license.

Now let’s assume they tasked 2 dedicated developers with creating the Porsche models right then. Then they would have produced 4 cars for release, and 2 cars since, both of which we got.

If you extrapolate, there could be 2-4 cars released every year.

There’s a lot of if’s in this post though.

 

[nickf1gr]

It was suprise for me the choice of Porsche 356 A/1500 GS GT Carrera Speedster but every addition is nice. This is a sign of more classic cars from Porsche and from other manufactures? iI hope so. Anyway well done PD.

 

[Stephan]

Well now we got a "Classic Era" Porsche aka the 356, GTS' Porsche lineup now only lacks a "Golden Era" Porsche.

In terms of a "Golden Era" Porsche, it could be a 930, 959, 917, 914, 944, etc.

 

[Nielsen]

The 962C, 959 and 918 are in my opinion the smartest moves PD can take next for Porsche. These three cars would help closing some striking gaps in the existing car lineup. Though. the next Porsche will probably be something like the 904 Carrera GTS. You know, PD's priorities aren't always easy to decipher.

 

[Dogwolf77]

It costs $$$$ Lots and lots of it. PD can’t just model anything they want. Sometimes they have to pay. On the other hand, the game is selling advertising space as well. Sometimes you have to pay to be seen. It’s a business.
And by the way: Porsche AG is headquartered in Stuttgart, and is owned by Volkswagen AG, which is itself majority-owned by Porsche Automobil Holding SE.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

Still hoping to see 928 or 944 someday in the game.

 

[SestoScudo]

Hopefully the Porsche 959 comes along with Pikes Peak and recreate some Test Drive 2 The Duel!!!

 

[OJT6627]

Well now we got a "Classic Era" Porsche aka the 356, GTS' Porsche lineup now only lacks a "Golden Era" Porsche.

In terms of a "Golden Era" Porsche, it could be a 930, 959, 917, 914, 944, etc.

I like how you use the Porsche Unleashed's classification

And i am quite sure that 959 was Modern era car, might be wrong tho

 

[TonyJZX]

I think I feel like there's only one game that every did them justice and it came from EA (I know that's almost impossible to believe in 2018).

Not even Forza did the Porsche brand well given they had massive holes in their catalog and this is over multiple Forza's going back to 2011.

 

[Stephan]

I like how you use the Porsche Unleashed's classification

And i am quite sure that 959 was Modern era car, might be wrong tho

I just had to. I love the game so much it became the reason why I'm into Porsches.

I'm pretty sure the 959 is a Golden Era car if I were to consider how the car appears first during Evolution Mode.

And also taken from NFS Wikia's car list for Porsche Unleashed for a guide on what Golden Era Porsches are according to Porsche Unleashed.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

I would expect to see the 918 Spyder, 959 and 962 at some point. They all fit perfectly into categories which need new additions in GTS.

 

[sparkytooth]

The 962C, 959 and 918 are in my opinion the smartest moves PD can take next for Porsche. These three cars would help closing some striking gaps in the existing car lineup. Though. the next Porsche will probably be something like the 904 Carrera GTS. You know, PD's priorities aren't always easy to decipher.

PD seems to be deliberately picking weird and obscure porsches to racing games to add to GTS. Even the first two 911 GT3s added in September are weird and not in many games or any at all. So off of that precedent we can maybe see a 964 type 911 next, those aren't very often featured in games and that car specifically has very weird variants like the Flachblau cars and the different Carrera RS models. Or an odd variant of a popular porsche like maybe the 959 S or maybe even a 912.

Another thing to add to the 964's case is that it was a very popular car in Japan, with appearances in media such as wangan midnight as an easy example.

 

[OJT6627]

PD seems to be deliberately picking weird and obscure porsches to racing games to add to GTS. Even the first two 911 GT3s added in September are weird and not in many games or any at all. So off of that precedent we can maybe see a 964 type 911 next, those aren't very often featured in games and that car specifically has very weird variants like the Flachblau cars and the different Carrera RS models. Or an odd variant of a popular porsche like maybe the 959 S or maybe even a 912.

Another thing to add to the 964's case is that it was a very popular car in Japan, with appearances in media such as wangan midnight as an easy example.

Oh i would LOVE to get 964 in GTS. Favourite 911 of all time for me. If 964 ever ends up in the game i'll be one of the happiest persons ever

 

[danhighway]

With the last time Porsches were added bringing a pair, I think we might see a Porsche added for the nostalgic race car event since we got one for the non race car event. Maybe a 906 or 907? I don't think the 917 will be added since all of the eligible cars they've added seem to be a ways south of 1970.

 

[letsdothis97]

With the last time Porsches were added bringing a pair, I think we might see a Porsche added for the nostalgic race car event since we got one for the non race car event. Maybe a 906 or 907? I don't think the 917 will be added since all of the eligible cars they've added seem to be a ways south of 1970.

Could be something later down the line, im not sure what group it would be put into though, its hard to balance that car without putting it into a league of its own or in grX which would feel a bit lazy imo.

 

[AlanH49]

I would expect to see the 918 Spyder, 959 and 962 at some point. They all fit perfectly into categories which need new additions in GTS.

962 fits in with the Group C selection nicely.

918 joins the hypercars. Although we still haven’t got a standard P1 or Zonda/Huayra.

959 one of the last late ‘80’s, early ‘90’s, supercars needed. Alongside the XJ220, EB110, Testarossa, and late gen Countach.

I’d add the 911 Cup and new Cayman for the Japan E-Sports series. Plus a 60’s/70’s era prototype for the Nostalgia Cup. I guess the 911 GT1-98 and 919 Evo also obvious ones.

 

[letsdothis97]

962 fits in with the Group C selection nicely.

918 joins the hypercars. Although we still haven’t got a standard P1 or Zonda/Huayra.

959 one of the last late ‘80’s, early ‘90’s, supercars needed. Alongside the XJ220, EB110, Testarossa, and late gen Countach.

I’d add the 911 Cup and new Cayman for the Japan E-Sports series. Plus a 60’s/70’s era prototype for the Nostalgia Cup. I guess the 911 GT1-98 and 919 Evo also obvious ones.

Yeah there is a crazy amount they could add a few for every class. Not trying to make a wish list but if they need to pad out a class then they are truely spoilt for choice using porsche.

N100: Porsche 901
N200: Porsche 911RS 1973
N300: Porsche 930 Turbo(maybe 3.3)
N400: 992 Carrera S, 964 Turbo, 993 Turbo, 991 Carrera GTS maybe even a panamera, boxster spyder
N500: 996 GT2, 959
N600: 991 Turbo S, Carrera GT
N700: 911 GT1 straßenversion
N800 or N1000: 918, 991 GT2 RS
Gr4: 718 Cayman GT4CS, 911manthey racing
Gr3: Any Porsche 911 GT3R, Porsche 911 Cup
Gr2: 962, 956, 911 GT1(96,97 or 98), 961
Gr1: 919(15,17)
GrB: 959 Dakar, 991 RGT, That cayman currently on the front page of this site.

 

[AlanH49]

Yeah there is a crazy amount they could add a few for every class. Not trying to make a wish list but if they need to pad out a class then they are truely spoilt for choice using porsche.

N100: Porsche 901
N200: Porsche 911RS 1973
N300: Porsche 930 Turbo(maybe 3.3)
N400: 992 Carrera S, 964 Turbo, 993 Turbo, 991 Carrera GTS maybe even a panamera, boxster spyder
N500: 996 GT2, 959
N600: 991 Turbo S, Carrera GT
N700: 911 GT1 straßenversion
N800 or N1000: 918, 991 GT2 RS
Gr4: 718 Cayman GT4CS, 911manthey racing
Gr3: Any Porsche 911 GT3R, Porsche 911 Cup
Gr2: 962, 956, 911 GT1(96,97 or 98), 961
Gr1: 919(15,17)
GrB: 959 Dakar, 991 RGT, That cayman currently on the front page of this site.

And the great thing about Porsche is there are so many amazing liveries. Would really give a huge boost to that community.

 

[letsdothis97]

And the great thing about Porsche is there are so many amazing liveries. Would really give a huge boost to that community.

You say that but all that there is gonna be are scantily clad anime girls slapped onto the side.

 

[tankuroded]

Yeah there is a crazy amount they could add a few for every class. Not trying to make a wish list but if they need to pad out a class then they are truely spoilt for choice using porsche.

N100: Porsche 901
N200: Porsche 911RS 1973
N300: Porsche 930 Turbo(maybe 3.3)
N400: 992 Carrera S, 964 Turbo, 993 Turbo, 991 Carrera GTS maybe even a panamera, boxster spyder
N500: 996 GT2, 959
N600: 991 Turbo S, Carrera GT
N700: 911 GT1 straßenversion
N800 or N1000: 918, 991 GT2 RS
Gr4: 718 Cayman GT4CS, 911manthey racing
Gr3: Any Porsche 911 GT3R, Porsche 911 Cup
Gr2: 962, 956, 911 GT1(96,97 or 98), 961
Gr1: 919(15,17)
GrB: 959 Dakar, 991 RGT, That cayman currently on the front page of this site.

If 787B/XJR-9/R92CP/C9 are all Gr.1, 956/962 would be Gr.1 too.

 

[ImaRobot]

I think I feel like there's only one game that every did them justice and it came from EA (I know that's almost impossible to believe in 2018).

Not even Forza did the Porsche brand well given they had massive holes in their catalog and this is over multiple Forza's going back to 2011.

As it sits though, Forza is the only game with such a magnitude of them, covering most of whats been available in almost every game out that has had them. They seem to be the only one actually putting this license to full use since it's been available.

 

[Fosterions]

Yeah there is a crazy amount they could add a few for every class. Not trying to make a wish list but if they need to pad out a class then they are truely spoilt for choice using porsche.

N100: Porsche 901
N200: Porsche 911RS 1973
N300: Porsche 930 Turbo(maybe 3.3)
N400: 992 Carrera S, 964 Turbo, 993 Turbo, 991 Carrera GTS maybe even a panamera, boxster spyder
N500: 996 GT2, 959
N600: 991 Turbo S, Carrera GT
N700: 911 GT1 straßenversion
N800 or N1000: 918, 991 GT2 RS
Gr4: 718 Cayman GT4CS, 911manthey racing
Gr3: Any Porsche 911 GT3R, Porsche 911 Cup
Gr2: 962, 956, 911 GT1(96,97 or 98), 961
Gr1: 919(15,17)
GrB: 959 Dakar, 991 RGT, That cayman currently on the front page of this site.

Fantastic list. I’d also like add a N class Cayman & Boxster in there.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Still really baffling they modelled the 997. If they swapped the 997 with the 991 already in the game I dont think I would notice the difference, there's no two 911 models more aesthetically similar.

 

[sparkytooth]

Still really baffling they modelled the 997. If they swapped the 997 with the 991 already in the game I dont think I would notice the difference, there's no two 911 models more aesthetically similar.

Because its a different generation 911 and they're very much different cars, the 991 GT3 RS is on a different level of technology and advancement over the 997 GT3: manual transmission, no rear wheel steering, less aerodynamic, different tyre sizes, even a different flat six. Don't ever look at a 993 and a 964 side by side if you don't want to trip up in confusion then.

The 997 GT3 represents a more pure option of a sportscar while maintaining the ease of driving and useability of a modern car, above the more classical sportscar 996 and below the sheer supercar performance of the 991 GT3RS, one of the fastest N class cars in the game outright.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Because its a different generation 911 and they're very much different cars, the 991 GT3 RS is on a different level of technology and advancement over the 997 GT3, manual transmission, no rear wheel steering, less aerodynamic, different tyre sizes, even a different flat six. Don't ever look at a 993 and a 964 side by side if you don't want to trip up in confusion then.

Of course they have different performance, but that's hardly a reason to include a car in a game by itself. There's fudge factor in determining in-game vehicle performance, whatever car it is. If PD had swapped the 997 and Z8 performance characteristics before releasing them then no-one here would be any wiser.

The 964 and 993 are also much more aesthetically different.

 

[sparkytooth]

Of course they have different performance, but that's hardly a reason to include a car in a game by itself. There's fudge factor in determining in-game vehicle performance, whatever car it is. If PD had swapped the 997 and Z8 performance characteristics before releasing them then no-one here would be any wiser.

The 964 and 993 are also much more aesthetically different.

I could say the same about the 997 and the 991, just looking at them you can tell which one is bigger and wider and has different lights, nevermind the wing and all the extra differences the GT3 and GT3RS have.

 

[ShiftingGears]

That's an interesting point you raise there.

I could say the same about the 997 and the 991, just looking at them you can tell which one is bigger and wider and has different lights, nevermind the wing and all the extra differences the GT3 and GT3RS have.

To be honest it's an irrelevant point, as neither the 993 nor 964 is in the game. My approach would be to have an even spread from different eras given Porsches rich sports car history rather than have all but one Porsche from the last 20 years.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I think I feel like there's only one game that every did them justice and it came from EA (I know that's almost impossible to believe in 2018).

Not even Forza did the Porsche brand well given they had massive holes in their catalog and this is over multiple Forza's going back to 2011.

That's sort of an odd comment: outside of the one game two decades ago that was designed exclusively around the brand, what other game has had a more thorough collection of Porsches in it than FM7? There are 40 in there, from its first road cars to some of its latest, plus an F1 car and numerous racing vehicles across the decades.

...

I understand where people are coming from when they say the Porsche license is wasted in GT Sport, but it's because of the unique position the brand has in the automotive world. It isn't quite the rare hyper-expensive beast that is Ferrari or Lamborghini, but it has a huge, historic lineup of enthusiast vehicles, and even the more pedestrian models it builds today feel sportier than most in their categories.

It doesn't feel particularly balanced right now — three modern race cars, three modern road-going GT 911s, and one classic car — but that's sort of true of most of the brands in the game currently.