Just for fun, I went & checked my Nurb times. Got 2 in here... Daihatsu Storia X4 '00 - S3/S3 - Pro - No aids - 9'28.154 And my first ever lap in GT PSP, so this one was BAD...but it was fun as hell too! RUF 3400S '00 - N2/N2 - Pro - No aids (BIG mistake) - 9'48.862 - and that wasn't even close to a clean lap Was still fun as hell, though. BTW, I always run the AT...I'd be driving stick in real life, but on GT I just can NOT get my head wrapped around shifting for some reason. I think its because I can't feel what the car's doing (that's how I shift in a real car, instead of having to watch the tach)...so I just let the computers do it for me.