Oh, understood. Now I know what a shadetree special isShadetree specials=old cars: the VXs, Hyundai Excel, MX-6 and that Eunos.
Indeed, Shannon's should keep things relevant. 2010 and newer should be fine.
Hey, man. All the budget is spent once they buy the car. Somebody's 10yo is working for free there.That's a Microsoft Paint livery for sure.
What's wrong with the older cars? Did you watch the Improved Production races from the Bathurst 12 weekend? 90's civic vs 70's Celica vs 00's M3...it was freaking amazing!!I'm not so worried about the drivers, more concerned about some of the cars in the race.
I'd prefer it if the field was limited to current or previous models only. At the moment, we've got some that are 10-15+ years old!
VX HSVs - Really?
In fact, I watched the races last night before bed & they kept up past my bedtime they were that good.What's wrong with the older cars? Did you watch the Improved Production races from the Bathurst 12 weekend? 90's civic vs 70's Celica vs 00's M3...it was freaking amazing!!
I think I get where you're coming from, but would that just be GT4 spec basically?In fact, I watched the races last night before bed & they kept up past my bedtime they were that good.
Don't get me wrong, those 10-15yo cars certainly have their place. Improved Production would be perfect for them. I just don't wan't to see or, believe that race is for them.
My preference is for the 6-hour to run to, and for, modern cars that we'd have watched had the 12hr not evolved into the GT3 race we have now.
As it stands now, the 6hr is for cars that comply with 3 or 4 different sets of regulations.
Challenger GT4?The rumors were true, then. I know we keep saying it, but now we just need to convince anyone at Dodge/SRT to make something and join in.
The way GT4 is now, there is too much aero. The cars didn't have GT wings and front canards. To run a 2007 Mustang GT or a 350Z, would render a team basically uncompetitive. Sure, costs would be kept low if all they wanted to was be on the grid(which is the sole purpose of GT4[and GT3]- a class for gentlemen drivers).I think I get where you're coming from, but would that just be GT4 spec basically?
The problem I have with wanting very new cars, especially if they're GT4s, is you force the teams to buy new racecars every few years....and for people who do the 6hr out of love and enthusiasm on a small budget, that's rough.
If someone is going to buy or build a racecar, I'd like to think that they could get at least 5 years out of it, hopefully up to 10 with continued development and stable regulations.
Challenger GT4?
Oh look at that...
If I was making the rules, the 6hr would be for current and just superseded models very close to showroom spec with safety mods only. Add a cap of $75-100k with classes determined by price.I think I get where you're coming from, but would that just be GT4 spec basically?
The problem I have with wanting very new cars, especially if they're GT4s, is you force the teams to buy new racecars every few years....and for people who do the 6hr out of love and enthusiasm on a small budget, that's rough.
If someone is going to buy or build a racecar, I'd like to think that they could get at least 5 years out of it, hopefully up to 10 with continued development and stable regulations.
Despite the fact the race is only entering its second year, a 67-car field would represent the largest ever for a major Bathurst enduro however it is expected that a full grid will now start on Easter Sunday.
Grid capacity on the 6.213km Mount Panorama circuit is 72 cars with a race for the final five spots now on from competitors yet to formally commit to the Race.
“We have more entry forms in front of us than grid positions so it is up to the next five cars to commit and the grid will be full,” Event Director James O’Brien said.
“We are delighted with the response to this Race in just its second year and especially to see new cars being built to tackle the race.
“The chance to field the largest ever field in a major Bathurst enduro and create some history is very appealing and will just add to the storylines around this year’s Hi-Tec Oils Bathurst 6 Hour.”
There is depth in every class throughout the field, however it is the 22 cars in the Extreme Performance / Forced Induction Class A that are likely to attract a large share of the focus at the pointy-end of the grid.
Additional depth in the outright battle is clearly apparent with Mitsubishi, Audi, Ford, Subaru, Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Holden / HSV all represented in class A & B.
Two all-new Ford Focus RS entries have been received, including one from defending race winners Morcom Motorsport and a new entry from Keltic Racing – the banner under which Tony Quinn goes racing.
Two Mercedes-AMG A45 hot hatches are entered along with several competitive BMWs and a host of the ever popular Mitsubishi Lancer EVO models, including a two-car team from Pollicina Motorsports and three from Dylan Thomas successful CXC Global Racing outfit.
Thomas late last year named Supercars star Tim Slade as one of his team’s drivers, set to drive alongside Thomas in the lead entry.
Conroy Motorsport will make the debut of the KIA Proceed GT in this year’s race, boosting an already fiercely competitive class D battle that includes the usual host of Toyota 86 competitors, a Honda Integra, and a MINI Cooper.
Here ya goWill that race be streamed online? Can't remember if they had announced that.
RS are only AWD.The Morcom entry, is that the team Mostert drove for last year? If yes, anyone heard if he's back again this year?
Also, the Focus, is it FWD or AWD?
I haven't seen any reports yet.The Morcom entry, is that the team Mostert drove for last year? If yes, anyone heard if he's back again this year?
# jealousI'll be at the 6 hour this year, my Dad is racing his HQ (in the support class) and a friend of ours is racing the 6 hour in a Commodore. I think I'll be helping with the pit stops too
Oh look at that...
...and listen to it.
Want, need, must have
If I was making the rules, the 6hr would be for current and just superseded models very close to showroom spec with safety mods only. Add a cap of $75-100k with classes determined by price.
So, up to $25k,
$25,001-$50k,
$50,001-$75k etc...
IMO, the current production car championship has taken the cars too far away from standard, adding costs to ownership/running/maintaining.
Sort of, yes. I'll tell you, I used to look forward to those races so much. The variety in that class (and GT Performance to a degree) was what made it 'must watch'.You're thinking back to the old Procar GT Production Championship, hey Pete? That was a fun series while it lasted.