PURE | JGTS2-Congratulations to champions tony1311 and team Xanavi Z!

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Fantastic report Tim 👍

When I saw you getting closer in the mirror I thought you must be on a 3-stopper, with fresh tyres from lap 30, looks like I will get run over but at least I'd put up a fight for it, and yes it was a good fight. But when you pitted on lap 40 it dawned on me ... :lol:. That you were just damn consistent and fast - well deserved podium :cheers:
 
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I actually missed the starting time, because I was too busy writing a 2000 word essay in physics, that I discovered I hadn't done, and forgot to check the thread for any changes. Screw it, at least I got an A- for it.
 
HenryT
I actually missed the starting time, because I was too busy writing a 2000 word essay in physics, that I discovered I hadn't done, and forgot to check the thread for any changes. Screw it, at least I got an A- for it.

Nice. I had physics to do also. I was hating it but now it's not so bad. What school do you go to?
 
IIRC last season's first practice netted Dennis and I both 15 flat or so ftw.
Looks like we'll be about half a second quicker again at this track despite stricter boundaries.

I've been pondering the time differences between seasons, and what I'm thinking is we gained the 1 second or so that offline was quicker, and then we lose about .5 on the stricter boundaries.
 
Guess it lookes like i will be at least 1 second behind here to. Not what i hoped for. Pb is 14.7 but it is so hard to be consistent with the controller so a mid 15 would be something to aim for. Hopefully enough for d1
 
2:14.3

Car feels great.. Just lack that extra push to be found in the other cars. However, the balance is great.

Did a 10 lap stint and I could put in 40 liters by that time.
So 4,0 liters/lap = 116 + formation.. ~ 118 liters to finish the race.


Note: I might as well state now, that the start line will be after T1 under the TOTAL sign, after a full formation lap.
 
I've mentioned this before, but I won't be racing this Sunday due to family vacation.

A long wait until I can race again for a quarter of a lap. :lol:
 
HenryT
August Kitzberg's Gymnasium. It's in southern Estonia, you probably won't know it.

Haha, not off hand. I live in America where we don't know of anything unless it's within our borders (sarcasm of course)

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Denilson
2:14.3

Car feels great.. Just lack that extra push to be found in the other cars. However, the balance is great.

Did a 10 lap stint and I could put in 40 liters by that time.
So 4,0 liters/lap = 116 + formation.. ~ 118 liters to finish the race.

Note: I might as well state now, that the start line will be after T1 under the TOTAL sign, after a full formation lap.

The Petronas pushes extremely bad for me. Not liking it.

Although, I got all excited I ran a 2:17.1xx...then I saw your post haha
 
I would'nt be surprised if we'll see high 12's actually.. Defenetly low 13's. :scared:
 
Denilson
I would'nt be surprised if we'll see high 12's actually.. Defenetly low 13's. :scared:

Well I guess I'm screwed. This Lexus might as well be front wheel drive. Any recommendations on making it rotate? I've got toe set to .05f/-.05r. I know others say suspension settings are useless since 2.09 though...

What about aero? Full or take a few notches out of the rear?
 
DA6righthand
Well I guess I'm screwed. This Lexus might as well be front wheel drive. Any recommendations on making it rotate? I've got toe set to .05f/-.05r. I know others say suspension settings are useless since 2.09 though...

What about aero? Full or take a few notches out of the rear?

R1600Turbo
LSD settings will help, mainly in the braking category. Might help with rotation off throttle.

Jason is right.

Your thoughts on lowering rear aero is right.

Try a lower rear ride ht. I also find the wt moved all the way back positive number helps my GTR rotate. Thats is with zero ballast too.
 
In the race or for quali?
Def 13's for Q, and 12's in the race with some draft on kemmel.

DA6: I'll see what I can do with the Lexus tomorrow to try and help out.
But if you want the car to rotate on throttle, keep the rear dampers lower in relation to the front. Something like EXT: 9/8 and COM: 6/5
Set rear toe to: -0.20
Camber around 2.0 in the front, 1.3 in the rear.
ARB's to a modest setting. Something like 3/3. Not more than 4.
Springs: 15ish
Ride hight: depends on your wear, but probably 10 clicks lower in the front. Something like -5/5
LSD: 8/16/8 or similar.
DF: 40/65

Let me know how it feels and I can try to tweak your setup depending on your input. 👍
 
Well I guess I'm screwed. This Lexus might as well be front wheel drive. Any recommendations on making it rotate? I've got toe set to .05f/-.05r. I know others say suspension settings are useless since 2.09 though...

What about aero? Full or take a few notches out of the rear?

I thought the Lexus turns in well with low setting on diff but the front end pushes on acceleration. Try increasing rear toe I find it helps a bit on acceleration, I ended up running -1.5 in rear for nurburgring with supra! Downside I guess it's not as good on tyres!
 
R1600Turbo
LSD settings will help, mainly in the braking category. Might help with rotation off throttle.

Lsd at 9/12/30. Way higher settings than I typically have.

OwensRacing
Jason is right.

Your thoughts on lowering rear aero is right.

Try a lower rear ride ht. I also find the wt moved all the way back positive number helps my GTR rotate. Thats is with zero ballast too.

I have my ride ht at 4/-4. Aero is at 40/58 iirc. Also Lsd is at 9/12/30. I'll have to go through what Dennis mention to see if anything can come out of it.

Denilson
Def 13's for Q, and 12's in the race with some draft on kemmel.

DA6: I'll see what I can do with the Lexus tomorrow to try and help out.
But if you want the car to rotate on throttle, keep the rear dampers lower in relation to the front. Something like EXT: 9/8 and COM: 6/5
Set rear toe to: -0.20
Camber around 2.0 in the front, 1.3 in the rear.
ARB's to a modest setting. Something like 3/3. Not more than 4.
Springs: 15ish
Ride hight: depends on your wear, but probably 10 clicks lower in the front. Something like -5/5
LSD: 8/16/8 or similar.
DF: 40/65

Let me know how it feels and I can try to tweak your setup depending on your input. 👍

I'll try that this week. Thanks Den.
 
I'll try that this week. Thanks Den.

I went to war with the suspension trying to cure on-throttle understeer coming out of corners in the SC430 (a handling problem that's always been there) at nurF. So I mind as well just give you that car as a base. It's quite good if you like late apexing or drive with lots of off throttle momentum into corners.

Haven't tried it at spa but I doubt much will change beyond the gearbox.
 
cicua
That 30 certainly gives you some understeer on entry. I used 7/13/5 on nurb.

100%

The bottom number. Braking sensitivity. The lower it is. The quicker the rear diff open off throttle. This will allow the rear to rotate off the gas and on brake.

Run it down 5-10 range I'd say.

If you are not hitting grass or dirt often I'd go with 7/10/6 to start with.
 
Regarding suspension, I spent some time in a room with a tuning friend of mine the other day...
So until I see otherwise (perhaps with another car idk yet) I'm presuming ride height is actually sort of "fixed".

Raising the rear still adds rear grip, but it now definitely made my Gallardo rotate more as well. I'd wondered why I liked -5/+10 on my HSV so much right after 2.09, and now I know why.
It's not a huge difference, we're talking tiny amounts of rotation, but hey, if it adds grip and helps it turn? Count me in.


I went to war with the suspension trying to cure on-throttle understeer coming out of corners in the SC430 (a handling problem that's always been there) at nurF. So I mind as well just give you that car as a base. It's quite good if you like late apexing or drive with lots of off throttle momentum into corners.

Haven't tried it at spa but I doubt much will change beyond the gearbox.
That would make sense for why I always got along with that car so well...(I drove it pre-2.09 and made it rotate on throttle, but I coast a lot)
 
100%

The bottom number. Braking sensitivity. The lower it is. The quicker the rear diff open off throttle. This will allow the rear to rotate off the gas and on brake.

Run it down 5-10 range I'd say.

If you are not hitting grass or dirt often I'd go with 7/10/6 to start with.
The GT-R is naturally opposite of the SC430 in these terms.
The GT-R's "instincts" are oversteer on exit and understeer on entry.
The SC430's "instincts" are oversteer on entry and understeer on exit.
 
PURE | JGTS Practice Race

* Tuesday, Nov 20th
- Connect Time: 15.30 PM (GMT)
- Green Flag: 16.00 PM (GMT)

* Distance
- 15 + 1 (1/2 race distance)
Note: Start take place under the TOTAL sign after T1, after 1 full formationlap.

* Room Settings
- Same as during an "OFFICIAL" race, but with light damage.


No need to sign up or anything.
Just join the room if you have the time.
This race was really good last week with 7 drivers on track.
Let's make it happen again! 👍

Room Number: TBA

WELCOME! :gtplanet: :cheers:
 
The GT-R is naturally opposite of the SC430 in these terms.
The GT-R's "instincts" are oversteer on exit and understeer on entry.
The SC430's "instincts" are oversteer on entry and understeer on exit.

After driving the GTR last season and the 430 this one I'd have to agree.

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@DA6righthand here's the two 2.09 car's I've used:


denso_monz.jpg


denso_nurf.jpg
 
Thanks for tips guys. I'll get online tomorrow and figure this car out.

In regards to the Lsd,I thought a higher decel caused the rear wheels to lock together more which would cause oversteer. Or at least I would think...irl
 
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