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[NIGHT_WARRIOR]

Hey ppl i would apperciate some Tips on drifting and im sure others would so i have started this Thread on Tips to drifting perfection

also i need to know how to make an S2000 type-V have neutral handling

From MEEEEEEE lol

 

[amp88]

Great idea for a thread, I'm sure there are loads of other people who need drifting tips. The best tip I ever got was this one

 

[Gen.]

Welcome to the drift forum Night_Warrior. I notice you've been here on GTP awhile.

Here's a tip everyone can use. Power isn't everything

 

[Ske]

Check these out, they're in the stickies just above this thread

GT4 Drift Reference Guide by Boundary Layer & Swift
- Example videos, technique explainations, & tunning tips inside.
Drift Settings Depot
- TONS of settings to try. The S2000 is dead neutral stock though, isn't it?

There are LOADS of threads just on the first two pages that are just drifting tips for newcomers, I'll see if I can link some for you....

Edit.. for starters

Everything Drift FAQ - Competitions, Videos, & Discussions. (The sticky you should read)

Problems with 'Initiating the drift'

Timing/Lineing your drift???

My best tip from the start is: Go slower, and use less angle while learning. Too high entry speed, too much throttle and too much angle are the most common sources of "new drifter frustration". In those threads I linked above are more specific and detailed tips, they cover just about anything that can be explained with words...

Otherwise, look through this forum and check for locked threads, there will often be useful links posted before they're locked. Take some time and sift through the first pages, and try and address specific points if you still need help 💡

 

[NIGHT_WARRIOR]

Welcome to the drift forum Night_Warrior. I notice you've been here on GTP awhile.

Here's a tip everyone can use. Power isn't everything

thanks but uhh i already know that from the teachings of Keiichi Tsuchiya

as i always say "AE86 or nuthin" lol underpowered drift is fun

 

[NIGHT_WARRIOR]

Check these out, they're in the stickies just above this thread

GT4 Drift Reference Guide by Boundary Layer & Swift
- Example videos, technique explainations, & tunning tips inside.
Drift Settings Depot
- TONS of settings to try. The S2000 is dead neutral stock though, isn't it?

There are LOADS of threads just on the first two pages that are just drifting tips for newcomers, I'll see if I can link some for you....

Edit.. for starters

Everything Drift FAQ - Competitions, Videos, & Discussions. (The sticky you should read)

Problems with 'Initiating the drift'

Timing/Lineing your drift???

My best tip from the start is: Go slower, and use less angle while learning. Too high entry speed, too much throttle and too much angle are the most common sources of "new drifter frustration". In those threads I linked above are more specific and detailed tips, they cover just about anything that can be explained with words...

Otherwise, look through this forum and check for locked threads, there will often be useful links posted before they're locked. Take some time and sift through the first pages, and try and address specific points if you still need help 💡

its not exactly neutral i find with the stock suspension it understeers during acceration tho it is yes fairly neutral but i want it so i the driver choose either for it to understeer or oversteer

 

[hideyourface]

use the handbrake brake in the middle of the drift if you find yourself understeering and let go of the gas if you find yourself oversteering. Of course when you get better you should be able to get through a turn without having to use the handbrake to correct your line.

 

[NIGHT_WARRIOR]

i got a good question: does anyone know how to start sliding before a corner and continue the drift thru the corner(without the use of the hand brake) ??

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Feint, just steer your car left and right a bit before a corner and then throw it into a drift when the timing is right. You got to have the timing right so practice alot and download a drift video of some pretty good known drifter:tup:

 

[hideyourface]

look at the thread on how to drift, it shows all the techniques.

 

[Ske]

i got a good question: does anyone know how to start sliding before a corner and continue the drift thru the corner(without the use of the hand brake) ??

If you're talking about starting the drift way too early, you need to let off the throttle so much that you're silding and not turning.. then apply more throttle and steer more into the corner when it's time to start turning. This requires a lot of "feel" to pull off consistently, so it's sort of an "advanced" technique.

To get sliding this way, you could for example turn in hard, countersteer fast, brake slightly, and use throttle to adjust. But like I said, it requires some feel to keep the car sliding while remaining in control (so you can start turning again at will).

 

[NIGHT_WARRIOR]

Hey guys i have a great tip it involves the hand brake but "meh" i find this trick to be the GT4 equivilent to the real life technique the "clutch kick"(which involves kicking the clutch in full and releasing it hence Clutch Kick) anyway all u do is hold the X button/accelerator pedal full and hit tap the hand brake which in turn will give u a momentary power boost and give u that lil extra slip u might need to initiate or continue a drift

 

[NIGHT_WARRIOR]

If you're talking about starting the drift way too early, you need to let off the throttle so much that you're silding and not turning.. then apply more throttle and steer more into the corner when it's time to start turning. This requires a lot of "feel" to pull off consistently, so it's sort of an "advanced" technique.

To get sliding this way, you could for example turn in hard, countersteer fast, brake slightly, and use throttle to adjust. But like I said, it requires some feel to keep the car sliding while remaining in control (so you can start turning again at will).

No im talking about starting a drift before a corner like a 75º-90º corner so u stop sliding just in time to accerate down the straight this technique i have seen in Initial D also rally drivers use it so i was wondering if its possible in GT4 👍

 

[NIGHT_WARRIOR]

oh yeah i forgot to mention Drifting with a turbo isnt always a smart thing you have to consider the dreaded "TURBO LAG"

another thing u can do a Heel and Toe in GT4 obviously with a steering wheel and pedals but u might say "i use my hands coz i have a controller" well never fear coz u can do a heel and toe equivalent keeping ur thumb on square tap X with the lower/middle part of ur thumb during a downshift to keep ur revs up and that turbo spooled Happy Drifting

 

[Ske]

No im talking about starting a drift before a corner like a 75º-90º corner so u stop sliding just in time to accerate down the straight

Same thing, just don't turn in when you're getting back on the gas

 

[Raghavan]

So, do you guys use the handbrake to initiate drifts, or do you just sort of drive into the turn? I have an S2000 Type-V that i've tuned, and i don't need to use the handbrake to start drifting, but i can't really get long drifts going. How do you guys do that?

 

[Ske]

Feint, lift, power over, brake or a combination of those.. it all depends on the car. I don't use the e-brake to enter a drift, but it can sometimes be a useful tool to adjust the line slightly. Read those threads I posted, especially the guide by TS and Swift for a more detailed approach.

 

[Suzuki]

pratice diff techniques. doesnt matter if you cant hold the drift, but at least learn to initate the drift. after you have that down, pratice getting it sideways, and keeping it there. then move on to exiting the drift.
the gymkhana is useful for praticing at about 30-60 mph.

 

[hideyourface]

feint- turning your car opposite of the turn on the straight, then whipping it back into the turn
brake- slowing down then going into the turn and shifting down
ebrake- initiating the drift by holding the ebrake for a second and turning in
overpower-going into the turn at a normal speed then letting go of the gas, and then stepping on it when you reach the exit, to give you some slide on the way out of the turn
dynamic- going into the turn at a high speed, then turning in sharply without touching the brakes

for all these types of drifting, you should start on the side of the track furthest from the turn, and then turning sharply into the apex. Also, you should always be slowing down before a drift to shift the weight forward and so you dont have too much speed. But you have to pay attention to how much you're slowing down, because with the controller its hard to just press the brake lightly and pay attention to your speed right before you're about to drift.

 

[Funkshen]

Simply Practice.

 

[hideyourface]

Simply Practice.

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I think enough people have said practice p: and you need to know the techniques to know what to practice, and tips always help avoiding problems when you're learning.

 

[Ske]

Whatever's not in those threads can only be resolved by

a) practice, practice etc.. (...which will lead to a couple of...)
b) eureka moments (...which will confuse you a little and prompt you to ask...)
c) very specific questions

 

[Raghavan]

I can get the car to drift by feinting, but on long corners, like the first left turn on Apricot Hill, i go into the apex and crash into the inside wall.
How do you guys get the car to stop drifting? Sometimes i'll spin at the end of a drift.
How do you guys also drift around chicanes?

 

[Ske]

I can get the car to drift by feinting, but on long corners, like the first left turn on Apricot Hill, i go into the apex and crash into the inside wall.

Try entering faster and wider, with less angle. Use the brakes and countersteering to tuck the nose in near the second apex. I typically enter that turn at around 170-180 km/h (110-ish mph) in 4th, and shift down just as I brake for the second apex.

How do you guys get the car to stop drifting? Sometimes i'll spin at the end of a drift.

Go easier on the throttle while countersteering to balance the car. It sounds like you're either not countersteering enough or being too aggressive with the throttle. There are many techniques to exit a drift gracefully, but they involve fine tuning in either throttle or countersteering.

How do you guys also drift around chicanes?

Think of the first turn in a chicane as a feint. As you get to the point where you want to change direction, tap the brake and release the throttle to get some weight and grip up front, then flick the steering towards the next turn. Remember to be ready to countersteer and balance the car with throttle once it changes direction.

All those points require that you "feel" the car and that you're able to predict what it will do, and that comes eventually. The very best way of learning that, is by drifting with lower angle for now. When you feel you can predict and control the car's movements, it's time to start linking and getting more angle.

 

[Suzuki]

Try entering faster and wider, with less angle. Use the brakes and countersteering to tuck the nose in near the second apex. I typically enter that turn at around 170-180 km/h (110-ish mph) in 4th, and shift down just as I brake for the second apex.

meh i usually enter at 130-140 mph.

overpower-going into the turn at a normal speed then letting go of the gas, and then stepping on it when you reach the exit, to give you some slide on the way out of the turn

you must step off the gas, then floor it at the apex.

dynamic- going into the turn at a high speed, then turning in sharply without touching the brakes

dont forget to release the gas to shift the weight forward., if you dont youll just plow through the turn and possibly into a barrier.

for all these types of drifting, you should start on the side of the track furthest from the turn, and then turning sharply into the apex. Also, you should always be slowing down before a drift to shift the weight forward and so you dont have too much speed.

not for all these techniques. unless i need a weird line that requires me to slow down with my technique before the turn, then i dont. but this doesnt mean you should try this, as you are a beginner, so start small, and start slow. and remember to pratice alot. thats how the pros(gt4 and IRL) got to where they are today.

 

[Raghavan]

Wow, thanks a lot Ske! Looks like i've got a lot more practicing to do. 👍

 

[hideyourface]

you must step off the gas, then floor it at the apex.
dont forget to release the gas to shift the weight forward., if you dont youll just plow through the turn and possibly into a barrier.
not for all these techniques. unless i need a weird line that requires me to slow down with my technique before the turn, then i dont. but this doesnt mean you should try this, as you are a beginner, so start small, and start slow. and remember to pratice alot. thats how the pros(gt4 and IRL) got to where they are today.

for overpower i said you need to let go of the gas, same as stepping off of it p:
and unless you're going into a really large turn that require little angle, or you're linking two turns, you should really slow down(not always drastically). I used to feint and brake drift at the same time into a turn, which didn't require braking before the drift, but now Im braking, then using one technique. I think using only one, and slowing yourself down first works better with U-turns, because as long as your car goes sideways, you can do just about anything to slide through a 90 degree turn. Im only saying this from recent experience.

 

[Thotozam AZ-1]

Welcome to the drift forum Night_Warrior. I notice you've been here on GTP awhile.

Here's a tip everyone can use. Power isn't everything

Bingo we have a winner....
I avoid drifting with anything over 350 hp
plus avoid racecars....they are very tough to drift right

 

[ekmatt9]

Try drifting stock cars before you try out any old settings.

 

[Suzuki]

for overpower i said you need to let go of the gas, same as stepping off of it p:
and unless you're going into a really large turn that require little angle, or you're linking two turns, you should really slow down(not always drastically). I used to feint and brake drift at the same time into a turn, which didn't require braking before the drift, but now Im braking, then using one technique. I think using only one, and slowing yourself down first works better with U-turns, because as long as your car goes sideways, you can do just about anything to slide through a 90 degree turn. Im only saying this from recent experience.

i must have read that wrong. my mistake.
i can drift slow U turns with the same technique i use for other corners. but i usually throw in a short 1-2 manji before the turn so i can use my inertia to get through it better. everything just takes tons of pratice, and a little know how(ie the diff techniques)