Rally pack expansion discussion

Discussion in 'Forza Horizon 1' started by Fezz_ST, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. BMWRobertL93

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    Please try to stay on topic. You know exacly what it means! ;)

    Tip; if you can't answer a question, simply leave it!

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  2. justchyllan

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    It wasn't regarding the question, but how he stated it. Either way I'm done. I don't care. Sorry for saying anything. I'm a little on edge lately due to finals, a 30 page research paper, and 2 jobs.
     
  3. justchyllan

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    The first one is B, second is A.. but that's as far as I've gotten. But based on this I'd guess the next is S... I'm not sure it would go to R though.

    I actually noticed the same thing... Medium for me :( at least for now.
     
  4. hennessey86

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    R3 which I think is a bit to much, s class was more than a handful
     
  5. Populuxe Cowboy

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    Yes, one of the rallies is R3, the rest are B, A, or S. And I agree, R3 is a bit too much.
     
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    If I was in a position where I could only afford one or the other, then I would get the Porsche pack for FM4. But I'm also a life-long Porsche fan, so there's that to consider.
     
  7. DDastardly00

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    First of all thanks Hellbilly for the gift car, I didn't have a Hennesy Venom in my garage yet. :) You sir are awesome!


    Ok, after the long download I was able to get a little time in, I played the first event and took 4th overall. As soon as it let me, I built a B class ST185 Celica and re-raced the first event and promptly took first place. The rest of my time was spent checking out the new cars in the autoshow. I have to say this expansion is way too much fun, it added a missing element to the core gameplay in Horizon, great dirt roads to race on. I already can't wait to play tonight, my thoughts are on building a Cosworth, a Subie and a Lancia or two for Rally.

    But I also have other uses for the new 5 cars included in the pack, I want to build street spec versions as well. I noticed there are more body options for the ST185 this time, which is awesome, so you can build a great looking street machine with it too. That goes for the other cars as well, so I will also be building two 05 STI cars, street spec and rally spec. I also can't wait to try the multiplayer with friends, online rallying should add plenty of replay value.
     
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    Does this expansion expand the gameplay map at all?
     
  9. justchyllan

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    No you use rally from the main menu... Its sort of like a street racing hub where it lines up races for you. But there is a points ranking up system separate from the wristband.
     
  10. katpeeler

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    Anyone got any pics of the tracks/jumps??....Figured someone would have posted some already.....Maybe some good pics will get me motivated
     
  11. is the rally expansion pack worth the purchase ?.
     
  12. Wolfe

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    I'd say if you're a fan of any of the Rally Pack cars, even just one, it's definitely worth the plunge. It completely transforms the driving/racing experience, and the new parts offer tuning possibilities beyond just rally-prepping.

    If you don't particularly like any of the cars, you might be just as happy skipping it because the rally stages aren't completely new. Just like people have said, they're all "reimagined" versions of the existing roads. It reminds me of the "rally" cheat for The Need for Speed, which converted one of the tracks to gravel when activated.
     
  13. thanks for the info wolfe. i think i will buy the pack as i do like rallying.
     
  14. justchyllan

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    If you don't blow through it and be done with it, yes. Also like Wolfe said if you like the cars then absolutely yes. I've played through it 3 times now and its still fun to me. I have the season pass but I would have purchased it because two of the cars I own "IRL"
     
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    I got the rally pack just for the Ford Escort Cosworth, i know people are bashing the people for buying cars that should of been in but wasn't, it is the only car i looked foward to, so i had to buy it ;D.
     
  16. SuperShouden

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    So, the Rally feels more like Forza 4. So, for Horizon, they tweaked the FM4 physics and kinda watered them down. With the rally, they don't feel watered down at all. Feels like a completely different game.

    The one stupid thing so far: the old penalty system is in place. Meaning, if you go off track, your time gets penalized. Yeah, because NO ONE goes off the track in a RALLY. It makes it so fun when the track is narrow and you go from first to 40th in a short section because you're struggling to keep the car on narrow path. Fun. So, just be warned people who haven't gotten it yet. I don't know why Turn10 or whoever decided to put in a penalty system, but they did. And the best part is, it doesn't actually show that you're being penalized, you just get to go from 1st to last in a couple hundred feet.
     
  17. Wolfe

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    There's no penalty system...the AI times just leave very little margin for error. You can't even drift gracefully like a WRC star and still expect to win on the higher difficulty levels; the AI cut relentlessly hard and fast lines through all the corners.

    Anytime I go back and run a rally stage for fun, I get something like 25th place, even on Medium.
     
  18. SuperShouden

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    I'm running on Easy and the second stage of the second rally kicked my butt...so I went to sleep.
     
  19. Wolfe

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    Well, like I said, drifting doesn't seem to do much good on a lot of the corners, so ignore what you see in WRC and try to maintain grip as much as possible. On the wider parts, feel free to use the whole track; you can gain time by cutting a line through the grass where the AI would follow the road, but be careful on the steep banks because those can throw you into a barrel roll.

    There are a number of "gotcha" spots that I'm sure have thrown almost everyone for a loop, and our codriver friend isn't the best at warning us in a timely manner. So apply Rewind as needed if you don't want to start the whole stage over. I still haven't gotten the hang of the "rollercoaster hills" near Addison Steelworks. :ouch:

    On the subject of rewinding mistakes, with regard to your "1st to last in a couple hundred feet" comment -- your position doesn't update continuously, it only updates when you pass a checkpoint. So you might have lost the time somewhere else in that section. You can make up time and get back to 1st place, so don't get discouraged the first time your position drops. :tup:
     
  20. SuperShouden

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    The co-driver isn't that bad. I still remember the old Collin McRae games where, if you were going fast enough, you'd get ahead of the co-driver.
     
  21. justchyllan

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    It can be difficult at first... And it doesn't help that the AIs drive perfectly... all difficulty changes is their times.

    I've managed some rallys on hard but that was my absolute BEST driving no sliding or anything. Kettle Hills I can manage hard consistently, but only because I've raced it about 10 times :) Love Kettle Hills.

    Powersliding is surprisingly ineffective... On the sharp hairpins I've had to resort to going 15-20 mph in 1st and pulling out.
     
  22. SuperShouden

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    So, the difficulty is so wonky that the game lets you advance through without actually winning anything. Except, now, I have 22 points left, and I actually have to win at least one of the rallies. Luckily, I used the old mini for an A-class race, and lost terrible and the winner of that gets 30 points, so I just have to win that. I almost won the S-class series with my SVT Raptor, but I rolled once.

    I don't know if I'll play enough to get the final rally. The difficulty is just too stupid. What's really stupid to me is there are Dirt developers working at Playground Games, but, apparently they weren't in charge of the Rally in Horizon...
     
  23. justchyllan

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    I'm glad they weren't because D2 & D3 were horrible.
     
  24. SuperShouden

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    They were better than Horizon Rally. At least difficulty wise.
     
  25. justchyllan

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    I don't mean to offend you but it sounds like your driving. I have some friends that are pretty casual gamers and can get 1st on easy in rally.
     
  26. SuperShouden

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    Actually, I think it was mainly my car selection. Just dusted the Rocky Mountain stage in the Range Rover. Apparently, if you pay attention to the vehicles the top 4 are using, you can win, pretty easily. Now, I have the final stage unlocked. I might just do some Horizon playin' today to finish off some achievements.
     
  27. Wolfe

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    Shot a deer in the Rockies Rally. :)
     
  28. Im_Lukas

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    How do you spot these things? I almost get tunnel vision where I don't really see the environment, just the road.

    I noticed you've beat all my new times I set yesterday but only got round to beating 1 of yours with the Hummer so far and then tested some cars for other rallies. At the moment I've got cars ready for all except the R3 rally which I have no clue about what interesting car could be competitive there.
     
  29. DurWinning

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    Well if you want your driver to soil themselves and have a challenge. Try the Audi Sport Quattro
     
  30. Im_Lukas

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    Will do, I have one of them fully tuned in my garage and the acceleration is ridiculous, I'll just have to decide which parts to remove to get it back to R3. I tried the Shelby Cobra as a rally car earlier and the results were rather horrific, I rolled it 4 times on a single stage and spun out too many times to count.

    I don't think I'll be able to beat my Montano Plains Stage 1 time with the car I have planned as I'm currently 27th overall on it.