Really wish we could switch between manual/automatic in-game

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My friend plays automatic and I play manual. Would save so much time if we could just restart instead of going back to the main menu to change it.
Who's with me?
 
I can't deal with split-screen manual shifting so I will just deal with going with automatic. I need the tachometer instead of that bar.
 
Mid race...

Cause we see racers stop on the side of the road to swap for a 6speed auto all the time...

Omfg, there's always one isn't there?! Okay genius, if Polyphony is as anal as you are then they could force a race restart after changing this setting, WITHOUT forcing you back to the main menu.
 
Mid race...

Cause we see racers stop on the side of the road to swap for a 6speed auto all the time...
You know, this would a lot more clever (well, "clever" probably isn't the right word) as far as sarcastic smartass comments go if GT5 actually modeled automatic transmissions correctly. As GT5 doesn't for 95% of the automatic transmission cars in the game though, it pretty much falls flat. :rolleyes:
 
Mid race...

Cause we see racers stop on the side of the road to swap for a 6speed auto all the time...

Ever seen an F1 driver pull over to switch to Auto? No you haven't have you, yet somehow it's made it's way into the F1 2010. You've also never seen a racing driver pause in the middle of a race, or chance his veiw, or even chance his driver aids.
 
You should be able to manually overwrite while in automatic.

That would solve alot of problems.

Agreed!
That's what I'd like to see added. It would be a great way of learning to use the manual gears, and you could force the game to hold a gear for longer, or change down sooner.
 
Omfg, there's always one isn't there?! Okay genius, if Polyphony is as anal as you are then they could force a race restart after changing this setting, WITHOUT forcing you back to the main menu.

You should be able to change these settings if you exit to the pre-race menu, what's the difference?
 
I liked the Way Richard Burns Rally did the Shifting. You could Use SemiAutomatic, Automatic and Manual. And I don't know how they did it, but I never recall doing a shift just after or before the AI Shifted resulting in double up/downshift.

Was a nice thing, if you reved too hight, the Automatic upshift prevented Revlimit, same with the lowrevs, and if you considered a lower/higher gear to suit the situation, it was just one button-click away.

Damn i miss this game. Need an HD Update :(. If a Rallygame gives you info about the Puddles in the road an the direction of some trenches in the road via force feedback in the best possible manner, it's heaven. (Sorry for the RBR hail)

michael
 
You should be able to change these settings if you exit to the pre-race menu, what's the difference?

Because it takes ages to reload the menu screen and then reload the level. Takes 90 seconds. It becomes very tedious when you have to do this every time you pass on the controller. Simply restarting the level takes less than a second.
 
My friend plays automatic and I play manual. Would save so much time if we could just restart instead of going back to the main menu to change it.
Who's with me?
You can change it in the pre-race menu of every event so I do not see what you are looking for here.

Ideally the game should let you buy an auto tranny or a manual tranny and take away the manual auto option. If the car is a manual you drive as a manual period. Likewise if it is an auto you drive as an auto. If you want somethign different by the car that way or buy the other tranny. This would allow you to have both autos and manuals without changing any settings in game and would be more realistic.

That said a lot of people would complain that they have to spend an extra 20k to get an auto tranny in the Minolta or any other car that would always comes only as a manual.
 
(sigh) yes... I know...
Please read the thread, not just the thread title. At the very least read the first post.

I did read it. Maybe you could make it a bit more clear so you don't get responses like this as I was confused.

Thinking about it now I realize you mean at the race restart menu if they made the options available to change your driving aids and transmission.

Not everyone is sitting here with the game in front of them or has every menu in it memorized.
 
Mid race...

Cause we see racers stop on the side of the road to swap for a 6speed auto all the time...

Actually, apart from the "it's a game" argument there's a much better reason this doesn't apply.

In the game, it's always a manual shift, the game, not the transmission is what shifts automatically. You'll notice this on premium cars from the cockpit view. Even on Auto, your driver will reach for the stick to shift. :)

There, now can we get an option in the pause menu?
 
In the pause menu? I do not think that is needed at all. Set the tranny to what you want before the race and if you forget deal with it or exit the race and start again.

Totally not needed but hey while we are at it lets add the ability to buy and install a stage 3 turbo from the pause menu too.

It wouldn't be any more realistic. It would just be more annoying.
No it would be 10 times more real and it would be less annoying. Real cars do not have a switch between manual an auto this is a very expensive conversion. I drive with a manual tranny but there are some cars where an auto would be ok and Bob always switches it to an auto on me which is very annoying. If the tranny was specific to the car this would no longer happen.

If you think that having to change the tranny to switch is unrealistic then all I can say is that you must not know very much about real cars.
 
I did read it. Maybe you could make it a bit more clear so you don't get responses like this as I was confused.

Thinking about it now I realize you mean at the race restart menu if they made the options available to change your driving aids and transmission.

Not everyone is sitting here with the game in front of them or has every menu in it memorized.

Sorry didn't mean to be rude, but of course I know you can switch it at the main menu. It's just frustrating because people keep saying that and I've already said twice that adding this option in game would save a considerable amount of time in my situation.
 
In the pause menu? I do not think that is needed at all. Set the tranny to what you want before the race and if you forget deal with it or exit the race and start again.

Totally not needed but hey while we are at it lets add the ability to buy and install a stage 3 turbo from the pause menu too.

Yet another person who hasn't bothered reading the reason why I suggested it.
 
In the pause menu? I do not think that is needed at all. Set the tranny to what you want before the race and if you forget deal with it or exit the race and start again.
And if you don't want to forfeit your win average? Why is adding something so simple to the Settings screen in the Pause Menu that would cut down on some of GT5's interface problems such a bad thing? Are you operating under the typical "GT didn't do it first, so it isn't worth doing" line of nonsense thinking?


Totally not needed but hey while we are at it lets add the ability to buy and install a stage 3 turbo from the pause menu too.
Oh, look, another failed attempt at being clever. :rolleyes:
 
Personally I am smart enough to set the car the way I want before the race and if by chance I fail to get the right settings I am man enough to drive it as is for that race and change it later.

I have never saw any game that lets you change car setup in this manner during the race.
 
Personally I am smart enough to set the car the way I want before the race and if by chance I fail to get the right settings I am man enough to drive it as is for that race and change it later.

I have never saw any game that lets you change car setup in this manner during the race.

Yeah, that's great for people who don't ever have guests who can't play it on manual. If you have to go back out to the main menu to change it every time you pass the controller to your mate then it's roughly 90 seconds of watching a loading screen each time that could have been spent playing. Christ! What's so hard to understand?!
 
Yeah, that's great for people who don't ever have guests who can't play it on manual. If you have to go back out to the main menu to change it every time you pass the controller to your mate then it's roughly 90 seconds of watching a loading screen each time that could have been spent playing. Christ! What's so hard to understand?!

Yeah, c'mon guys it's not that big of a deal.

Personally I would love it if when you bought a car, it was either a manual shift or an automatic. It would add another layer of realism to the game. :)

But seriously, adding an option for switching between auto and manual mid game is one of those things that "won't affect you so why even care about it? If you don't like it, don't use it."

I think my reasons for why this would make sense (one the first page) are pretty sound.
 
Personally I am smart enough to set the car the way I want before the race and if by chance I fail to get the right settings I am man enough to drive it as is for that race and change it later.
Good for you. Doesn't mean the option shouldn't be there for people who aren't as clever as you are. Particularly when GT5 has a known glitch in how it resets all of your settings whenever you use B-Spec.

I have never saw any game that lets you change car setup in this manner during the race.
Most (if not all) of the TOCA games. F1 2010. Most (if not all) of the Need For Speed games made since Hot Pursuit 2. That's just off the top of my head.

Hell, GT5 already lets you change brake balance, ABS, TCS, and ASM settings for every car you drive, and that sure as hell isn't realistic for almost all of the cars in the game. So why is changing the transmissions during a race such a horrible idea when there is already the option to change so many other variables? This is basically a moot point anyways, because the game isn't actually doing an automatic. It is actually just doing Shift Assist.

No it would be 10 times more real and it would be less annoying.
No it wouldn't. Some cars simply cannot accommodate a manual transmission, and some cars simply cannot accommodate an automatic. So what about those cars?

Real cars do not have a switch between manual an auto this is a very expensive conversion.
Real cars with automatic transmissions also drive like they have automatic transmissions. I can think of only 5 cars in GT5 that drive like they have automatic transmissions. You want to make the game so stupidly anal retentive in regards to "realism" when it screws up something so basic? Why?

and Bob always switches it to an auto on me which is very annoying. If the tranny was specific to the car this would no longer happen.
It also wouldn't happen if they simply fixed the glitch that caused it to happen.

If you think that having to change the tranny to switch is unrealistic then all I can say is that you must not know very much about real cars.
And if you think following reality to that level would make for a good game (especially when GT5 screws up so much basic stuff accidentally that it has no reason not to do correctly and purposely doesn't do other things to make the game more accessible), then all I can say is that you must not know very much about good game design.
 
Can i interject something, GT is a japanese game from car nuts. The majority of the cars in this game are manual. Even when they tell you about car having an automatic transmission, GT always opts for the standard version of the car as that is how the majority of cars sold come from the factory. Automatic is an option and I didn't go through the entire list of cars in GT5, but there should be a few that are automatic and only come in that version, although you can get pretty much anything you want if you have enough cash.

I understand what the OP wants, just to be able to switch between auto and manual on the fly, instead of the leave the course then load up the track again to switch. Not a bad request at all, although I was sure that all GT's since GT2 allowed manual upshifting even in automatic mode and if you held the gear down when the auto tried to upshift you could stay in gear. Not certain if this works in GT5 as I haven't driven using the DS3. It's definitely not a replacement for manual shifting, but it can make shifting a little better since the load from switching is a pain.
 
I was sure that all GT's since GT2 allowed manual upshifting even in automatic mode and if you held the gear down when the auto tried to upshift you could stay in gear.
You never could shift while in automatic but yes, holding down one of the shift buttons forced the car to stay in the current gear. Don't know how it works in GT5, I always use manual.
 
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