Red Bull Racing and F1 in GT5?

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Personally I wouldn't put a turbocharged engine in an "ultimate performance machine".
Turbos cause lag, making power delivery unpredictable and decreasing engine response.
I speculate it will have a naturally aspirated engine between 4 and 5 liters, with F1-class specific power.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X24_engine

The straight-6 was a benchmark in engine smoothness. The V12 improved on this. So it follows that a pair of V12s (or 4 straight-6s, depending on how you wanna look at it), would be absolutely amazing. :drool: Would match the name also, :D
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
Personally I wouldn't put a turbocharged engine in an "ultimate performance machine".
Turbos cause lag, making power delivery unpredictable and decreasing engine response.
I speculate it will have a naturally aspirated engine between 4 and 5 liters, with F1-class specific power.
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Not modern turbocharged engines, and especially not ones in the hands of F1 engineers. In an unrestricted environment, they would come up with some very clever ways of minimizing turbo lag. If KERS was used, then it would be completely negated. :cool:

In fact, speculation is that Formula One will be moving to turbocharged 1.6L 4 cylinder engines with the next regulation change for 2013, so it is certainly possible (but I don't want the discussion to focus on that, let's stick with the X1). :)
 
Grand Prix
Think bigger:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X24_engine

The straight-6 was a benchmark in engine smoothness. The V12 improved on this. So it follows that a pair of V12s (or 4 straight-6s, depending on how you wanna look at it), would be absolutely amazing. :drool: Would match the name also, :D
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What sort of size are we speaking though? That thing could weigh a tonne, and it is hard to see how it would do in power to weight ratio compared to a v12.
 
Maybe 20 litres? :lol:

Like this beast, the Rolls-Royce "Vulture" X24
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Was originally designed to produce 1750HP in 1941, :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
I feel it is a close cockpit because of that speed of exceeding 400 kph, it is risky for the driver without a cockpit because of G force and wind condition.

By the way X1 can be unlock if you get all the license, unlocked all the game mode, purchase all the cars, win all the competition and a 100 Million credits
 
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If there are really no limitations on the car then I doubt they would use a 3.0 liter V10 from F1 cars. Those might have been the pinacle of naturally asperated F1 engine technology but they were also limited by regulations. Those engines; while extremely powerful, were not very torquey and the V8s have even less torque. There are also regulations that ban the use of exotic materials on F1 engine components. If you didn't have technical regulations or budgetary constraints to think about, you could make a super-light and extremely powerful engine using exotic carbon composits, variable valve timing, superchargers, etc.
 
sandman1347
If there are really no limitations on the car then I doubt they would use a 3.0 liter V10 from F1 cars. Those might have been the pinacle of naturally asperated F1 engine technology but they were also limited by regulations. Those engines; while extremely powerful, were not very torquey and the V8s have even less torque. There are also regulations that ban the use of exotic materials on F1 engine components. If you didn't have technical regulations or budgetary constraints to think about, you could make a super-light and extremely powerful engine using exotic carbon composits, variable valve timing, superchargers, etc.
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Not to mention the safety of the drivers.
 
RACECAR
Assuming you're reffering to the picture of the car covered by sheet, its not the RB5 or the RB6, its the X1.


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Hold on wasn't there a new's article that said that the red bull F1 would be in the game but only as a demonstration also is looks to small to be the X1. We should just wait cause this one is going to kill out brain. Because X1 has F1 parts if the cover was up just a little so we could see the color we know that Red bull F1 is dark blue and the X1 is black.
 
Majarvis
Now that I look at it again, I think you're correct. It wouldn't make sense if this wasn't projected onto some kind of canopy over the driver.

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And when I look at this again, I think it's a camera from inside the canopy, rather than the cockpit being open. You can kind of see there being a seam around the entire cockpit, back to the roll bar, for some sort of covering to be secured into.

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It does make more sense if it is closed-cockpit. :cool:

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You're absolutely right. :cool:

Also, looking at the HUD, 397 km/h in 6th gear is quite impressive, and really shows the potential power output and aerodynamic efficiency of the X1. Let's just assume that the X1 has at least 7 forward gears (like a current Formula One car), or possibly even an 8- or 9-speed gearbox (but that would add weight).

If you look back at the 3.0L V10 era, ending in 2005, the cars were pushing 360 km/h or so (roughly, from memory) at the end of the front straight at Monza, in low-downforce configurations. If the X1 is achieving 397 km/h in 6th gear, while still quite clearly accelerating, I don't see 450 km/h in 7th gear all that unreasonable to achieve on a fast circuit. :cool:
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Kaz said X1 is half lemans racer and half F1 so im guessing the back is the leman one and the front is F1 because of the nose.
 
^^ If you watch the video below and freeze it right around the 2:24 or 2:25 mark, you'll see what definitely appears to be an F1 car (and definitely doesn't appear to be the X1 Prototype). My guess is that Red Bull Racing have provided multiple cars for the game including one of their F1 designs and the new X1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEu1VJ7obbs&feature=related
 
Zero_angel
Hold on wasn't there a new's article that said that the red bull F1 would be in the game but only as a demonstration also is looks to small to be the X1. We should just wait cause this one is going to kill out brain. Because X1 has F1 parts if the cover was up just a little so we could see the color we know that Red bull F1 is dark blue and the X1 is black.
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sandman1347
^^ If you watch the video below and freeze it right around the 2:24 or 2:25 mark, you'll see what definitely appears to be an F1 car (and definitely doesn't appear to be the X1 Prototype). My guess is that Red Bull Racing have provided multiple cars for the game including one of their F1 designs and the new X1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEu1VJ7obbs&feature=related
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Guys, thats not the F1 car. Thats the X1. Of course its appears smaller, its in the distance in that in-game shot as opposed to being upclose in the picture I posted. At the 2:24, that silouette shows fenders, something a F1 car simply does not have. It also shows a closed cockpit, something a F1 car car also does not have.
 
sandman1347
^^ If you watch the video below and freeze it right around the 2:24 or 2:25 mark, you'll see what definitely appears to be an F1 car (and definitely doesn't appear to be the X1 Prototype). My guess is that Red Bull Racing have provided multiple cars for the game including one of their F1 designs and the new X1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEu1VJ7obbs&feature=related
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yeah thats a F1 but which one did red bull have a gray f1 also the x1 and f1 have the same handle shape on the back and the car under the cover has it back facing towards the camera i don't know is to hard to tell what it is right now hopefully we will get another video.
 
Zero_angel
yeah thats a F1 but which one did red bull have a gray f1 also the x1 and f1 have the same handle shape on the back and the car under the cover has it back facing towards the camera i don't know is to hard to tell what it is right now hopefully we will get another video.
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Thats just it: They never did. The nose doesn't even look like look like there F1 cars as its smaller in width. Also, the car is facing forward not backward otherwise we'd see the rear wing and again, you can clearly make out the cockpit, the nose and the fenders while it sets underneith the sheet.
 
I think the grey one shown could be the X1 in another colour. There is a paint shop in the game now, which is nice.
 
RACECAR
Thats just it: They never did. The nose doesn't even look like look like there F1 cars as its smaller in width. Also, the car is facing forward not backward otherwise we'd see the rear wing and again, you can clearly make out the cockpit, the nose and the fenders while it sets underneith the sheet.
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Yeah your right but Dang that's some crazy car design
 
Grand Prix
I think the grey one shown could be the X1 in another colour. There is a paint shop in the game now, which is nice.
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Exactly how does only seeing the grey nose on the car in one video and seeing Carbon fibre on the fender of it in another video indicate that its a different color when it is the same car?
 
Grand Prix
I think the grey one shown could be the X1 in another colour. There is a paint shop in the game now, which is nice.
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Yes i know is cool that you can paint your car in colors that there not available in real life like the R8 getting painted whit Mclaren orange
 
Hmm I'm not so sure about this one:
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I'd recon it's the X1 but with another livery

EDIT: Dravonic's picture for comparison
 
magicalgin
Hmm I'm not so sure about this one:
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I'd recon it's the X1 but with another livery

EDIT: Dravonic's picture for comparison
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Instead, lets reffer to the original untouched one:

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Its the same car, shown in different lighting. Of course it'll look different when you turn off the lights.
 
RACECAR
Instead, lets reffer to the original untouched one:

jsx1-prototype04.jpg


Its the same car, shown in different lighting. Of course it'll look different when you turn off the lights.
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The first pic has a the number 10 on it and the second one you can see were it says GT on the X1
 
Zero_angel
The first pic has a the number 10 on it and the second one you can see were it says GT on the X1
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Yep, the X1 has a GT logo in the front and red bull logos in the front wing. That other car doesn't.

But it could be the same car with a different livery. Who knows.
 
Dravonic
Yep, the X1 has a GT logo in the front. That other car doesn't. But it could be just a different livery. Who knows.
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Maybe is the race mod version. But i have to wonder how much will it cost in the game i put it around 10 million to 50 million :drool:
 
Zero_angel
The first pic has a the number 10 on it and the second one you can see were it says GT on the X1
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Where is there a GT logo? All I see are Red Bull Logos.
 
Well spotted. Thought it was just reflections at first, but it definately is now that I've zoomed up. I still can't see two different liveries though based solely on seperate shots of the nose and then the whole front end while it sits in the same place with one shot clearly having the roof lights on while the other one has the lights off. Here's an example (at 4:31):

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The Audi R10 is normally a grey car, but with not much lighting you can see it does not maintain its bright grey color, giving it a bluish kind of shade.

Also, why would there be a race mod version of the ultimate race car? Hell, why put a race mod on a Race car?
 
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RACECAR
Well spotted. Thought it was just reflections at first, but it definately is now that I've zoomed up. I still can't see two different liveries though based solely on seperate shots of the nose and then the whole front end while it sits in the same place with one shot clearly having the roof lights on while the other one has the lights off.

Also, why would there be a race mod version of the ultimate race car? Hell, why put a race mod on a Race car?
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Maybe it just let us put any number we want on it who knows. I bet kaz is sitting in the studio playing GT5 right now on a huge 3Dtv Drinking wine.
 
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I dunno dudes, if it were simply the lighting playing tricks on us, I would think the metal plates under the wheels would be just as dark as the X1 in the darker picture. And how much brighter a shade would the Red Bull logos have to be to look white compared to the "darkened" grey car? I think one has a paintjob and the other is bare carbon.
 
RACECAR
Instead, lets reffer to the original untouched one:

jsx1-prototype04.jpg


Its the same car, shown in different lighting. Of course it'll look different when you turn off the lights.
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Could anyone here outline the vehicle?
 
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