Reddit User Uncovers Partial Car List for Forza Horizon 4

Discussion in 'Forza Horizon 4' started by TheOE, Jun 23, 2018.

  1. GranTurismo guy

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    The 250 could be the SWB, it's true title is Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta. Production started in 1959
  2. Minty

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    Not just the same thing, but all three of those cars can significantly outperform many of the road-car based race cars people complain about. Lets not forget the One:1 and Huayra BC.

    If they've already gone through the trouble of modeling track cars for the Motorsport series no one loses by them tossing a few into the Horizon series. Personally I'd love the chance to throw the Renault F1 car around some winding English roads, but that likely will never happen. I don't get the complaints that it doesn't seem fitting when the entire game centers around turning an entire country into a lawless speed festival, as if that doesn't require pretty heavy suspension of disbelief on it's own.
  3. GranTurismo guy

    GranTurismo guy

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    If they are genuinely stuck for disc space like they said they were for Horizon 3, it means other cars are getting booted for them to be there.

    I honestly wish they'd just let you have all of the cars in Horizon games, even if an install disc was needed. The horizon games almost certainly sell better than Motorsport. I do wonder sometimes if they keep the car list higher for Motorsports as a incentive to keep buying them.
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  4. Eunos_Cosmo

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    :lol: at the continued inclusion of the 2001 Acura Integra Type R

    I'm about 80% sure the 3D model is at least partially the one used in FM1.
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  5. Nielsen


    List of road cars not found on leaked FH4 car list:

    Abarth 500 esseesse
    Abarth Punto SuperSport
    Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Spider
    Alfa Romeo Montreal
    Alfa Romeo GTV-6
    Alfa Romeo SZ Sprint Zagato
    Alfa Romeo Milano QV
    Alfa Romeo 155 Q4
    AMC Pacer X
    AMC Gremlin X
    AMC Rebel 'The Machine'
    Aston Martin V8 Vantage
    Aston Martin V8 Vantage V600
    Aston Martin DBS
    Aston Martin V12 Zagato
    Audi S4
    Audi Q7 V12 TDI
    Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept
    BMW 328
    BMW 507
    BMW M635 CSi
    BMW 850 CSi
    BMW 323ti Sport
    BMW Z8
    BMW M6 Coupe (2010)
    Buick GSX
    Cadillac CTS-V Coupe
    Cadillac Escalade ESV
    Chevrolet Vega GT
    Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
    Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
    Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 (2012)
    Chevrolet SS
    Chevrolet Camaro SS (2016)
    Chevrolet Colorado ZR2
    Chrysler 300 SRT8
    Chrysler VH Valiant Charger R/T E49
    Citroën 2CV
    Datsun 2000 Roadster
    Dodge Coronet WO23
    Dodge Coronet Super Bee
    Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS
    Dodge SRT-4 ACR
    Dodge Charger SRT8
    Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
    Dodge Dart GT
    Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
    Ferrari 166 Inter Sport
    Ferrari 250 California (maybe it's the FER_250GT_60)
    Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
    Ferrari California
    Fiat 8V Supersonic
    Fiat Dino 2.4 Coupe
    Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt
    Ford Falcon XR GT
    Ford Mustang Mach 1
    Ford Falcon XY GTHO Phase III
    Ford Mustang II King Cobra
    Ford Falcon GT
    Ford SVT Cobra R (1995)
    Ford Shelby GT500 (2007)
    Ford Mustang GT (2015)
    Ford Falcon XR8
    Ford Focus ST
    GMC Syclone
    HDT VK Commodore Group A
    Holden FX Sedan
    Holden 50-2106 FX Ute
    Holden Monaro GTS 327
    Holden VL Commodore Group A SV
    Holden HSV W427
    HSV GTS (2011)
    Honda S800
    Honda Civic CRX Mugen
    Honda Civic Si (1986)
    Honda Civic Si (2014)
    Honda Prelude Si
    Honda Prelude Type SH
    Honda Civic Type R (2018)
    Honda Odyssey
    Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track
    Hyundai Veloster Turbo (2013)
    Hyundai Veloster Turbo (2019)
    Hyundai Veloster N
    Infiniti G35 Coupe
    Infiniti IPL G37 Coupe
    Infiniti Q60 Concept
    Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT
    Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8
    Jeep Grand Wagoneer
    Kia Stinger
    Lamborghini Jalpa
    Land Rover Range Rover Supercharged (2012)
    Land Rover Range Rover Supercharged (2014)
    Lexus SC300
    Lexus IS F
    Lexus LFA
    Lexus GS350 F Sport
    Lexus IS350 F Sport
    Lexus RC F
    Lincoln Continental
    Lotus Elise Series 1 Sport 190
    Maserati 300 S
    Maserati Ghibli Cup
    Maserati Ghibli S Q4
    Maserati Levante S
    Mazda Cosmo 110S Series II
    Mazda RX-3
    Mazda RX-7 GSL-SE
    Mazda MX-5 Miata (1990)
    Mazda Mazdaspeed 3
    Mazda MX-5 Super20
    McLaren 12C
    McLaren P1 GTR
    Mercedes-Benz 280 SL
    Mercedes-Benz C 32 AMG
    Mercedes-Benz SLR
    Mercedes-Benz ML 63 AMG
    Mercury Coupe
    Mercury Cougar Eliminator
    Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R
    Mitsubishi GTO
    Nissan Silvia (1966)
    Nissan R380 II
    Nissan Safari Turbo
    Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo
    Nissan Juke Nismo RS
    Opel GT
    Opel Kadett GT/E
    Peugeot 308 GTI
    Plymouth Fury
    Plymouth GTX 426 HEMI
    Plymouth Cuda 426 HEMI
    Plymouth Prowler
    Pontiac GTO
    Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (1969)
    Pontiac Firebird Trans Am Ram Air
    Pontiac G8 GXP
    Pontiac Solstice GXP
    Porsche 906 Carrera 6
    Porsche 924 Carrera GTS
    Porsche 928 GTS
    Porsche 911 Turbo S Leichtbau
    RAM Ram Runner
    Renault Alpine GTA Le Mans
    Renault Sport Clio V6
    Rolls Royce Wraith
    Rolls Royce Dawn
    Scion tC
    Spania GTA Spano
    SRT Viper GTS
    Sunbeam Tiger
    Subaru 360
    Subaru BRAT GL
    Subaru SVX
    Subaru Legacy B4 2.0 GT
    TAMO Racemo
    Tesla Model S P85D
    Toyota 2000GT
    Toyota Celica GT
    Toyota FJ40
    Toyota Corolla SR5
    Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
    Toyota MR2 SC
    Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
    Toyota Celica GT-Four RC ST185
    Toyota Celica GT-Four RC ST205
    Toyota MR2 GT
    Toyota Supra RZ
    Toyota Celica SS-I
    Toyota GT-86
    Ultima GTR 720
    Vauxhall Astra VXR (2006)
    Vauxhall Corsa VXR (2009)
    Vauxhall Astra 1.6 Tech Line Top Gear Edition
    Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
    Volkswagen Type 3 1600 L
    Volkswagen Rabbit GTI
    Volkswagen Scirocco 16v
    Volvo 123 GT
    Volvo 1800E
    Volvo S60 Polestar
    Volvo XC90 R-Design
    W Motors Lykan Hypersport
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2018
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  6. -Fred-

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    They've completely redone it for FM5.
  7. Nielsen


    And didn't it also get an explorable engine bay for FM7 Forzavista?
  8. Cloudy


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    That list has to be incomplete! No way they shoved questionable cars like the Safari Turbo, Colorado ZR2, etc. into FM7 and aren't letting them into FH4!
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2018
  9. CVPI93

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    I swear if the cars that aren't listed are in a specialty dealership, and if said dealership is treated just as badly as the one in Forza 7, I will not be a happy camper. Hopefully the list is incomplete, because there are some very questionable exclusions and inclusions.
  10. Northstar

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    I would be shocked if any racing game had their final car list sorted out this far from release. I'm fully expecting to gain some cars as well as lose some.
  11. GTvsForza

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    Dang, two racing trucks in a Horizon game.
  12. Apple Slipper

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    The amount of people on the YouTube comments section who just come to conclusions about the car list without actually researching it properly is alarming.
  13. Nielsen


    It's possible that this car list is not even up to date. Maybe it hasn't been properly updated since an early build dating back to months before E3.
  14. Minty

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    I hadn't considered that, but now I'm wondering if the game will even be able to fit on a single disc as it is. With 4x the world detail (mostly due to seasonal changes), and 100~ more cars than FH3 had at launch I'll be really impressed if they found a way to squeeze that much content onto a disc. Especially if they were already struggling for space with the previous game.
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  15. Techlet


    If the cars were just locked behind a nonsense "feature", they'd still be in the game files.
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  16. CVPI93

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    Ah well, we've still got 3 months to go. Things can definitely change in that time. :tup:
  17. McLaren

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    The '99 Viper ACR is still there as well; don't recall if it's been touched or not in years.
  18. -Fred-

    -Fred- Staff Emeritus

    That one and both R32s (the Nissan and the VW) have not been touched upon since forever. The R32 GT-R is probably the worst looking model in the game.
  19. Moglet

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    Either someone on the store team is going to get a talking to or it went wrong on Microsofts end! It seems a bit of a strange coincidence that the developer build of Horizon 3 made it live too, I hope nobody is purposely leaking things.
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2018
  20. McLaren

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    I think the 993 GT2 they brought back looks pretty old as well. At least, when you're in the chase cam, it does around the tail lamps. They don't seem to have much depth/detail to them.
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  21. ClydeYellow


    It must be, I don't see any trace of the Morris Minor which has already been shown in the E3 trailer and in at least one IGN featurette.
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  22. willbsn13


    Weird theory speculation time, makes little sense to begin with but hang in with me, I'll bring it back around;

    This quote from Dan at E3 sorta hung with me

    This would suggest that Turn 10 isn't really working on Forza Motorsport 8 at this stage, and that makes sense given the features coming to the game so late in it's development cycle (not done by T10 before).

    Phil Spencer also made some comments about franchise fatigue (with regards to Halo, but the point still stands), and Matt Booty, the new head of First Party for Microsoft Studios (who Turn 10 directly report too) has continually reiterated that more creative freedom is paramount to all first party studios. Bascially make whatever you want. I think Turn 10 have to decided to rectify the misgivings for FM7, and turn it into the game they thought it should have been, rather than do what they'd usually do and abandon ship until FM8. Which leads me to believe FM8 isnt coming out in 2019. I mean, if all the team is still on FM7 like Dan says, it's not hard to believe.

    Bringing it back to FH4 and all of the leaks, this would suggest that perhaps something like FH5 wouldn't come out until 2021 or even later, letting Motorsport breathe a year and come out in 2020. And the feature set of FH4 lines up with this, I mean it's built from the ground up to be a more engaging, long-term title than any previous FH Game. Seasons, Shared World, Blueprint, Forzathons every week/day/hour, Forzathon shop etc. In order to facilitate that longevity, you need content, and I'm sure that's where a lot of the "cut" or "chosen not be ported" cars come in. Manufacturer spotlight has been a thing in FM7 for two months and I wouldn't be surprised to see it come to FH4 e.g. It's Mercedes week in Horizon! Drive the all new 2018 Mercedes-AMG E 63 Sedan in the latest car pack. Also, the 2004 Mercedes-Benz C32 AMG is now available Forzathon shop for x number of points!

    You get the idea. But yeah, this could all be completely wrong but I thought it's definitely an interesting point to bring up, especially with all of the changes going along in 1P at MS. And yes it does relate to these leaks..sort of ;)
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  23. Nielsen


    I think the smaller car lists in Forza Horizon games are the result of budget constraints. Remember that these games, unlike Forza Motorsport, are packed with licensed music and this sort of stuff is rarely cheap. As much as I hope your Forzathon theory is correct (bringing back missing cars over time), I just don't see it happening for 98% of the bunch, for the reason above.
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  24. willbsn13


    Agreed. I also think the smaller car lists are not only to do with budget, but licensing and probably a number of other factors.

    I also don't want to suggest that every single car will return with Forzathon in FH4, just an evolution of what we saw in FH3. Which was around 30ish unique models.
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  25. ClydeYellow


    Let us also not forget that, thanks to the recent expansion of Microsoft Studios (and more generally speaking, the ambitious new direction provided by Matt Booty Warrior), Forza is not carrying the Xbox brand alone anymore. It is entirely possible that T10 and PG may switch to a strategy of releasing new games when there is an actual need for it - FM7 felt, in many ways, like FM6.5, and I think the guys at T10 either knew the game was not going to be as well-received as its predecessor from the get-go, or learned some very important lessons after it launched. Ralph Fulton Extraction already said PG will support FH4 for "years to come" - and considering how difficult it will be to top this game, I wouldn't be surprised to see them taking their time to follow up with FH5.

    Let us not forget that memory budget is also a concern, especially at launch (the game has to fit in a single disk, period), but also later on, with updates (you can't have a game with a 200 GB weight, can you?). But regardless, I could see some of the more egregious cars come back via Forzathon - or perhaps, via additional Barn Finds? That is something that was done for FH3 already, after all, and the guys at PG are creatures of habit...
  26. Stang616


    Microsoft also plans to release a new console around 2020, it is entirely possible that FM8 or FH5 are being held as release titles for the new console.
  27. CVPI93

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    I would be perfectly fine with them switching to a different schedule for releasing Forza games. While I definitely enjoyed Horizon 3, I can't say the same for Forza 7. It is THE sole game that has made me hate the Forza Motorsport series. If the opportunity presented itself, I would have no problem playing any of the first four Forzas. But as for 5, 6, and way. I feel like giving them a few more years to actually make a polished game that doesn't feel like a cut-and-paste of the previous title might just sway me back to the Forza Motorsport series.
  28. Eunos_Cosmo

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    I think I was originally confusing the Acura RSX and Integra, which I don't believe has been touched in a long time.

    Also, the Subaru 22B looks pretty bad.
  29. JR98

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    I'm not sure about the model itself, but the stripes have always been well off what the actual car has.

  30. McLaren

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    Yeah. The proportions just seem off on the front bumper and the roof line.
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