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Whoever kidnapped the concept that looked like that orange cartoon car and put this RX-8 ripoff in its place should run to the hills pretty damn fast before someone with even a hint of taste finds them... certainly not good in my eyes.
 
Bram Turismo
I think it looks fantastic! đź‘Ť
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Agreed, I like it a lot, the front is like a more striking RX-8 and the rear is like a Jaguar XF with a little GT-R in there too.
What the RX-8 should have looked like in my opinion, never really liked its overall design, this looks better.
 
Wow. That thing is way too futuristic. As it is, it has approximately zero design elements connecting it to any Toyota ever made. Peel all the badges off and I'd be totally lost, probably thinking it was a Nissan or a Honda or something.

For a car this close to production, they have to show us a serious idea of what the car will look like. Putting a "look what we can do!" interior onto it accomplishes nothing. Yeah, the interior looks cool, but it doesn't get me excited at all over what it will actually be like, which is probably what this concept should be doing.

So I'm assuming that this is pretty much just a concept car and not a look at what Toyota will be selling next year? Which is a shame because they should be showing us what's coming up.
 
Greycap
Whoever kidnapped the concept that looked like that orange cartoon car and put this RX-8 ripoff in its place should run to the hills pretty damn fast before someone with even a hint of taste finds them... certainly not good in my eyes.
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I don't really see the RX-8 design elements in it, at all.

Philly
Wow. That thing is way too futuristic. As it is, it has approximately zero design elements connecting it to any Toyota ever made. Peel all the badges off and I'd be totally lost, probably thinking it was a Nissan or a Honda or something.

For a car this close to production, they have to show us a serious idea of what the car will look like. Putting a "look what we can do!" interior onto it accomplishes nothing. Yeah, the interior looks cool, but it doesn't get me excited at all over what it will actually be like, which is probably what this concept should be doing.

So I'm assuming that this is pretty much just a concept car and not a look at what Toyota will be selling next year? Which is a shame because they should be showing us what's coming up.
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I see elements of the LF-A in the car, and the L-Finesse design ideas from Lexus. To me, it looks like a Toyota concept. They really need to tidy up that head light/fender/bumper transition though... it is a bit of a mess.
 
I like it a lot. If they keep it like this, I will definitely look into buying one in several years.
 
Hopefully it will be trimmed up in the same way the Gen Coupe underwent its concept-to-production transformation. I love how they went with the Deathscythe-style eyes and front fender crease. I hope they keep that.

Then just made the rear end more angular and less bubbly and they'd be set.
 
That looks pretty awesome, minus the rear, which just seems really generic. But how is everyone forgetting what this was obviously designed from?

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The FT-HS. The supposed Supra revival. With a hybrid powertrain...
 
As a long-time Subaru fan and owner, I don't really have high hopes for this. It's a layout long-since-forgotten to Toyota with a lot of Subaru hardware underneath. I'm not saying it can't work (both companies used to make great cars at one point or another), but with 148HP from the proposed non-turbo 2.0L flat-four, that car better be darned light.

As for the looks...this just isn't doing it. It's jumbled, it's too far removed from current Toyota design and too much like an on-again-off-again Lexus to be even close to the final product.
 
Philly
Wow. That thing is way too futuristic. As it is, it has approximately zero design elements connecting it to any Toyota ever made. Peel all the badges off and I'd be totally lost, probably thinking it was a Nissan or a Honda or something.
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Honestly, I don't think it's a bad thing that cars start looking more futuristic. I'm always amazed by the futuristic cars in movies, and wish they would start making them start looking like the cars in the movies. đź‘Ť
 
Looks-wise, I don't have a problem with going futuristic. That FT-86 isn't a bad looking car I don't think. Applying it is where you go wrong. You can have a great looking, "futuristic" car, but if it doesn't tie strongly into the company's 'look,' then it doesn't accomplish anything because the car will just look out of place and you'd lose the extra marketing from having an awesome car that everybody relates to your company.

Plus, if your guess as to what the future will look like is wrong, the car will likely look extremely dated pretty quickly. There are plenty of concept cars from the 2000s that just look old.
 
Good for Toyota, finally making a sports car again instead of being the crappiest manufacturer out there.
 
Philly
Looks-wise, I don't have a problem with going futuristic. That FT-86 isn't a bad looking car I don't think. Applying it is where you go wrong. You can have a great looking, "futuristic" car, but if it doesn't tie strongly into the company's 'look,' then it doesn't accomplish anything because the car will just look out of place and you'd lose the extra marketing from having an awesome car that everybody relates to your company.

Plus, if your guess as to what the future will look like is wrong, the car will likely look extremely dated pretty quickly. There are plenty of concept cars from the 2000s that just look old.
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It's a Toyota, not yet another Porsche 911 subvariants subvariant
 
I was referring to part that it isn't looking like any Toyota product.. oh, wait.. there's this:

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it has some similar front end elements.
 
arvin charles
Do you remember the last gen Celica? It looked pretty futuristic & sleek when it came out. Today, it looks pretty dated.
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The first of the ST230s or the later ones? The originals still look marvelous, I think. The "updates" dated them far too quickly. Generally speaking, Toyota did a good job with most of the Celica designs by keeping them (for the most part) timeless, certainly iconic in some forms.

In a world of Genesis Coupes, 370Zs and the like... The FT-86 just doesn't "pop" like the old cars did. But, I have a feeling the car looks much, much better in person.
 
YSSMAN
Nothing is Better Than the Real Thing... Right?​

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There it is, in all of it's glory. The FT-86 Concept, due to arrive at the Tokyo show in a couple of days. If you've been on the internets, you know the details. Small RWD coupe, cheap price, Subaru engine, yadda, yadda, yadda.

I'll admit that I'm somewhat excited, but somewhat disappointed at the same time. They still don't have the styling down, it still looks a bit too much like a concept car than something I'd want to drive down the street. Furthermore, now that we're suggesting that the price will be north of $20K, I'm not entirely sold on that without some kind of performance benchmark.
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I really like how it looks … a bit too Concept-ish (look at the seats), I hope they are not years away from producing that thing.

Hope it will be really light … around 1150 kg would be fantastic. Think they will possibly do that? What do they call lightweight nowadays? 1300? 1400?
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If they keep it south of 1200kg, the performance will be alright for me :D

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Oh dear, look how low the front is … :D :D :D
 
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The Toyota version would go a little more sideways...if Toyota offers fully defeatable TCS and ASM....

although, Toyota may not, ticking off enthusiasts, but surely pleasing insurance companies...
 
That front end...

I hate it. I can't get over how beautiful it looks in side profile, but how ugly and fat it looks up front. I'm glad the whole part i hate is conveniently stored in the font bumper. That'll be the first thing to go on mine.

Interesting. my 2,500th post. Quarter the way there.
 
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I like the FT-86 a lot. From where I sit, this is the car to get. Yes, the interior is pie-in-the-sky show car frivolity, but the exterior looks to be just about production ready. I'm looking forward to the Subaru version. An 086A STi with the 2.5 liter engine would be just about perfect. And you can keep the turbo. I like naturally-aspirated engines.
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/13/rendered-speculation-subarus-250-hp-ft-86-coupe-in-sti-trim/

Despite dropping all the information about its Tokyo-bound concepts, Subaru hasn't hinted at when we'll be seeing its version of the Toyota FT-86 coupe. Thankfully, Japan's Holiday Auto has stepped up to the plate to throw more fuel onto the fire with a subtly modified sketch of the FT-86 and some possible powertrain information of Subaru's first rear-wheel drive coupe.

According to the report (and a heaping helping of common sense), the Japanese rumormongers expect the STI version of the coupe to debut at the 2011 Tokyo Motor Show (after the standard model is revealed next year), complete with Subaru's 250-hp EJ25 2.5-liter boxer. Similar to the dual-injected, 200-hp EJ20 fitted to its Toyota brethren, the engine will remain naturally aspirated, but a turbocharged version hasn't been ruled out.

In addition to a wider track and upgraded tires, wheels and brakes, expect the STI version to don a gaping front fascia and a sizeable rear wing, similar to the camo-covered mule we saw in the latest round of spy shots. If Subaru wants to compete with the rest of the high-horsepower sports cars in the U.S. and Japan, it better get cracking, because competition is fierce, and the only way it can compete is to keep the price down and the weight in check.
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