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I'm sorry, but all of these body kits are an eyesore. So far it looks a lot better stock.
Agreed. All the modded FRS's and GT86's look like those Fast n Furious Supras from the late 90's.
I'm sorry, but all of these body kits are an eyesore. So far it looks a lot better stock.
This one...There's a picture floating around tumblr of a BRZ STI and it's doesn't have a wing like the concept did, unless they made a wingless concept also. If I can find it tomorrow I'll post it.
Why would a 200hp Si be any worse off than a 200hp FR-S? It's not like either will ever see a second of 150mph. If people plan to use their FR-S on a track they'll probably get themselves something more useful than the goofy plastic factory wing.]
This one...
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I think, a 200 HP Civic with a wing is much worse than a 200 HP 86 with a wing. My friend has a DC5 Type R over here in Japan and he said that when he goes to Fuji Speedway to drive it. 100R is really scary in it because the front of the car begins to lift due to the rear wing on it. Not to mention it is front wheel drive, the last thing it needs is even less front grip than it already has.
Not that you'd want the front of an 86 to lift as well but, there is a reason most rear wheel drive sports cars have either a spoiler or diffuser right?
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Seriously?
No, you must be kidding.
90% of factory spoilers are there for looks. The other 10% are there for the exact reason they are on FWD cars.
I'm probably wrong, but that's the perspective I got from my friend.
That's a photochop, isn't it? Old STI wheels, lip spoiler that has a vertical piece on one side but not the other, and a fake CF hood don't make a BRZ STI.
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90% of factory spoilers are there for looks. The other 10% are there for the exact reason they are on FWD cars.
That, is a good looking car.
Just curious, how many here feel like the above quote is true?
Also, would you say the Sti hatch is in the 90% or the 10%? Likewise for the sedan, 90 or 10?
I'm sorry, but all of these body kits are an eyesore. So far it looks a lot better stock.
It actually makes the situation worse by increasing the low pressure zone behind the car, causing water spray to linger and attach itself to the window.Spoiler on a hatch is to keep liftgate window cleaner![]()
I always wonder why they make hybrid cars so aerodynamic but they don't carry that over to the bread-and-butter dinojuice cars. The Sonata is a perfect example.
No, but I'm saying that if you specifically design a rear bumper, for example, to reduce drag and greatly improve aerodynamics ...
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... then why isn't that carried over to every other Sonata whether it's a hybrid or not?
We see a lot of aero features already designed into the 86, but I wonder how much emphasis was put on that and why they wouldn't just go all out in the first place.
Lots of modern cars have some tricky aero touches that are hardly noticeable.I'm surprised the BRZ doesn't incorporate those BMW 1-series side vents on the front bumper. Maybe it does though. I wonder if they let the Prius division work on aero for the car.
I personally think aero touches that you see on hybrids are cool, and a visual example of the fine balance of style and engineering. But most people couldn't care less about engineering and think a squared-off rear bumper looks stupid. These cars are hybrids, so awkward styling is perfectly acceptable. Out of necessity, we'll probably be seeing these styling cues become more mainstream, even moreso than on the FR-S.I always wonder why they make hybrid cars so aerodynamic but they don't carry that over to the bread-and-butter dinojuice cars. The Sonata is a perfect example.
An article from Car and Driver comparing the Powertrain, Chassis and Design of FR-S and BRZ.-
2013 Subaru BRZ and 2013 Scion FR-S: A Study in Comparison and Contrast
Zenith013Interesting. I'd expect them to purposely dial back the FR-S' handling. Let's face it, the Scion crowd is far more likely to wrap themselves around a tree when faced with oversteer.
Car and DriverAt the limit, you’ll find the key difference between the Subaru and the Scion. Go screaming into a turn or hop on the gas too early exiting one, and the Subaru simply understeers—perhaps for the benefit of drivers familiar with the brand’s all-wheel-drive products. The Scion uses softer springs and stiffer shocks, and it has a sensitivity to driver inputs that makes it feel alive. Too much or too little throttle upsets the Scion’s balance, sending the car into an easily controlled drift. Its behavior reminds us of the dearly departed first-generation Honda S2000. It’s not impossible to get the Subaru to oversteer—deliberately timed and moderated inputs will coax the tail out—it’s just not going to catch you by surprise. In either car, though, the transition from cornering to drifting is gradual, and the low curb weight—about 2800 pounds—helps make it easy to rein in a slide before you tailwhip your neighbor’s mailbox.
OmnisI'd like James May's take on a BRZ-FRS comparison. We know the track tests-- how about the spine tests?
^ It was...both of them infact:It wasn't depeloped at the nurburgring, right?