Should PD place some emphasis on classic cars?

[jonathansp]

Im happy to have them if they please people and I suppose it could be fun racing online with some really old stuff.

 

[reaperman]

wait, wait, wait no.
we don't even have confirmation that most current models will be included, and the most recent gt released (GTpsp) simply doesn't have a whole lot of the brand new cars.

Sure I don't mind older cars being included, but PD hasn't been covering their modern bases, and that's where I think the emphasis needs to be first. I believe most customers will for sure want to see the latest and greatest. Then after those are done, maybe go back in time a bit to broaden the experience.

 

[Raitziger]

Yes more oldies. There are new cars on every game.

 

[chepe371]

LMAO!!👍
Some of those car's do deserve recognition though, they started it all. Without them, there would be alot less Car manufacturere's today and some of the greatest races in the world started with them. So as nasty as they may look to some, they still deserve credit.
Love your timescale for them though lol, some of the maker's of those Car's are still alive lol!
Rusty*

True true, like Heath said maybe Antique\Vintage is more fitting.

I'd drive anything, and even tho some may say they aren't the fastest, they still prove to be challenging, the Antique\Vintage cars are very unforgiving. Personally id like to see more 30's 40's 50's, think hot rods and early muscle.

 

[finnracer]

i think it would be nice to have a few more pre-ww2 cars but not too many!

 

[bullie77]

There are some cars that undoubtly should be put in the game, wether for racing pedigree or historical significance...

Just to name a few:

Bugatti Tipo 35
Bugatti Tipo 57 (if possible all bodies that were manufactured)
Bugatti Royale
Alfa-Romeo 8C
Bentley "Blower"
Auto-Union (Type's A, B, C and D)
Mercedes-Benz W165
Mercedes-Benz W154
Mercedes-Benz W125
Mercedes-Benz W25K
Mercedes-Benz 500 K Special Roadster
Mercedes-Benz 710 SSK 27/240/300 hp Trossi Roadster

 

[Seismica]

I honestly have little interest in the vast majority of cars circa pre-1960, with a few exceptions.

That reflects the view i had when playing GT4. I do not want average cars or the Model T or the Patent motor wagen. I want early le mans racers, early grand prix cars etc. Historical significance is good, but looks and speed are more desirable in a game.

 

[alonsof1fan91]

No, No No.
It needs a lot of investment from PD (time, development, tuning etc.) and the driving on those cars is mostly boring since they drive very slow, acceleration is almost zero and the handling is poor.
Imagine yourself driving the Nurburgring with one of those cars - it will take you about 1 hour for one lap...and I guess the gear changing will be very little since the speed is low.

I prefer having more modern & fast cars to have tight racing with other opponents.

UYou have obsiously obviously no idea what ur you're talking about.

If uyou think it its boring to drive a W125 around the nürburgring, i I recommend u you to research something about this car. It has a reason why Herman Lang said the W125 was a true beast.

I would take the W125 in Gt5 GT5 above those soulless supercars like the Koenigsegg every day! Gt5 GT5 isn't about supercars, Gt5 GT5 is about every kind of cars!

 

[Pescara for GT5]

I still think the Hudson Hornet should be in since Nascar is in, also the Nash Ambassador, Kaiser Henry J. and whatever Studebaker had.

 

[Hun200kmh]

I agree with classics, in fact I love playing around with classic racers of old, like in TRD3

example:

 

[rexc]

I think a good collection of vintage cars is the sort of thing that should come later as a DLC pack that people could choose to get or not, and I certainly would. 👍

At the moment though, all the emphasis should just be on getting the game out the door.

 

[RouWa]

I don't like anything that is old. Consoles/video games, women, cars: if it's old, it's not good. So no, I definitely do not want classic cars in GT5 or any other future GT.

 

[astrosdude91]

We need more classic American vehicles. Duesenberg SJ Mormon Meteor, 30's Fords including the Legendary Duece Coupe and Roadster, and the 55-57 Bel Air models, maybe some AMC's too.

 

[JohnBM01]

Absolutely. Gran Turismo 2 was first to put a real emphasis on classic cars, and GT4 took it to different levels with many early modern automobiles. Older cars have their own character in that they can be tough to control. Many people say that the GT series cares more about cars than Forza, though Forza has a lot of cars most people care more about. I think if PD wants to really expand their car lineup, they do all they can to provide many more kinds of cars and even more defunct car companies.

So absolutely- more classic cars to even out the lineup of cars, as well as adding more depth.

 

[TeamStig]

Yes, just please no Daimler Motor Carriages. Cars that are unable to make it up a hill shouldn't be in GT5.

As far as emphasis, I'm not sure. There should definitely be more of them, but as Jackington said they don't deserve special attention.

 

[FLASH48]

I would go for more Classic race cars!

 

[JohnBM01]

Some have complained about how slow the Daimler Motor Carriages are. Really, if you look at this as a straight-up racing game, then these two cars have no place in this game. However, since it isn't a straight-up racing game (not an insult to the Gran Turismo series), look at these more as a learning experience. After all, these cars bear some significance as the forerunners to the modern automobile. I still wished I had the Ford Model T and the Tank Car in GT4...

 

[Sniffs]

it's been repeatedly demonstrated that quite a few of Gran Turismo's fanbase expects GT to be a racing game almost exclusively, using only race models. that wasn't the concept behind it in the first place, but it's been so PREVALENT for so long that it's about all people expect. considering that the two major racing game genres out have been, for years either A.) F1 style racing models (which includes NASCAR) or B.) beat the car up tuners that take place on the streets, a game that has realistic physics, instead of race physics, is still a novelty.

as for myself, if they put more horseless-carriage era cars in (anything made up to WW1) they should use the original GT2 Motorland track for them. you get a challenge and can actually drive the 5 mile per hour max single cylinders.

 

[Darla Starch]

There are some cars that undoubtly should be put in the game, wether for racing pedigree or historical significance...

Just to name a few:

Bugatti Tipo 35
Bugatti Tipo 57 (if possible all bodies that were manufactured)
Bugatti Royale
Alfa-Romeo 8C
Bentley "Blower"
Auto-Union (Type's A, B, C and D)
Mercedes-Benz W165
Mercedes-Benz W154
Mercedes-Benz W125
Mercedes-Benz W25K
Mercedes-Benz 500 K Special Roadster
Mercedes-Benz 710 SSK 27/240/300 hp Trossi Roadster

Excellent list you've got there.

As for me, I certainly don't object to having older cars in the game, just as long as they meet one requirement: They cannot be as useless to drive as the Motor Carriage.

 

[Heath_1]

Excellent list you've got there.

As for me, I certainly don't object to having older cars in the game, just as long as they meet one requirement: They cannot be as useless to drive as the Motor Carriage.

LOL thats what I meant in my first post. Those are impossible to drive because they cannot get up hills. It took me over a minute to do 1/4 mile. I can't remember the exact time but it was more than a minute. I think the model T ford and Citroen 2CV is as weak as they should be. If I'm honest, I could buy (and I'm not joking or being sarcastic, because it's true) an air conditioner with 2.5 hp.. think about that lol.

Other wise i much welcome older style cars. Makes the game more fun, and as I said in my first post.. as long as they have decent power ie.. able to get up hills.

 

[the_fatadder]

Would love to see some more useful vintage cars in teh game, stuff like the Bentley Blower, Auto Union or that Napier from the first page of this thread would be great fun to race.

Wouldnt mind seeing more 60s & 70s classics as well!

Just so long as old cars included in the game are actually stuff which is enjoyable to drive, rather than more Daimler Motor Carriages that are too slow to be of use.
Driving say a Bentley Blower around the Circuit de la Sarthe should be a hell of a lot more difficult to drive than taking modern stuff round (given the rubbish tires, breaks etc) but still fast enough to be fun. Should certainly make for interesting gameplay!

 

[Heath_1]

Driving say a Bentley Blower around the Circuit de la Sarthe should be a hell of a lot more difficult to drive than taking modern stuff round (given the rubbish tires, breaks etc) but still fast enough to be fun. Should certainly make for interesting gameplay!

For sure, I mean Sarthe is a historical circuit, so why not add some historical cars to go with it.

 

[alba]

Man would I love to have classic cars in GT. I really hope we get some even if it's through DLC

 

[yossigab]

May I introduce you to the Napier Railton....

.....500bhp from a 24 litre engine (not a typo) and a top speed of 160+ MPH. It has held 47 land speed records since it was built in 1933, and still runs twice a year (its now located at the Brooklands museum).

Kind of disproves the all being slow bit (by the way I could do this all day, the number of stupidly fast cars from that era is quite surprisingly large), and woulld certainly be a challenge to drive quickly given that the Railton only had rear brakes.


Regards

Scaff

Ok then, let me rephrase my comment.
I meant to say that I don't like old-slow cars. Because they are not fun to drive. If it's slow you may want to take it to 1 lap just to feel it because from GT4 experience one wouldn't like to race on old-slow cars.
If you guys are referring to old BUT FAST cars (old racing cars) then I'm all for it:tup:

 

[James2097]

The slower and older - the more I want to see if it can make it around the Nurb!

 

[Seismica]

The slower and older - the more I want to see if it can make it around the Nurb!

But we've already had the slowest and the oldest in GT4

And that laps the ring in what, 12 hours?

 

[Lucas]

Ok then, let me rephrase my comment.
I meant to say that I don't like old-slow cars. Because they are not fun to drive. If it's slow you may want to take it to 1 lap just to feel it because from GT4 experience one wouldn't like to race on old-slow cars.

Let me rephrase that for you: you don't like slow cars, period. What's the difference between old slow and new slow? I find old slow to be better looking cars, not to mention they are more significant.

 

[Spec M]

A couple I'd like to see. Most people don't know that Alfa Romeo has a longer history in auto racing than Ferrari.
This is the Alfa Romeo P2, its a fore father to Formula 1 and all autosports to date.
It won the Automobile World Championship in 1925 before Ferrari was formed, in fact Enzo Ferrari was working for Afla until the late 1920s.

This is the Bugatti Type 35, the most successful Bugatti racecar ever conceived winning over 1000 races in its era.

Would I expect to see these in GT5, of course not. Perhaps in GT6 though. I think PD is trying to attract the appeal of the Skyline, Mustang, and Lambo mainstream 'fan boys' as of right now. I think theres two type of car guy, the one that appreciates any and everything prestige in the automotive world and is educated about them which is why they can call themselves enthusiast. Then their's the type that will say "I don't like it because its ugly" or give some other vague reason of that sort while remaining ignorant to the facts of matter which make the vehicle the historical milestone or industrial innovation it is. I believe that Kaz is 100% enthusiast but he knows the average kid isn't going to know what a Vanwall VW5 is or a Type 35. So why bother when the enthusiast interested in these vehicles are out numbered by the mediocre car guy.

 

[Biggles]

One of the most enjoyable cars to race in FC was the 1958 Testarossa - faster than an average modern car & much, much more interesting handling.

Race cars from the 60s & 50s would be very cool - older cars, especially not race cars, would probably be less so.

 

[yossigab]

Let me rephrase that for you: you don't like slow cars, period. What's the difference between old slow and new slow? I find old slow to be better looking cars, not to mention they are more significant.

Ok then, I agree, I don't like slow cars...
I like fast cars because of: the driving, the required skills, the adrenaline, the fun, the competition...

Slow cars are sometimes (mostly the old ones - I agree also here) good for watching and admiring the beauty, driving on Saturday mornings maybe, but not for racing...

Of course this is all my taste.