So what's new Physics wise?

[CoolColJ]

Could you also do this test/video?

- Select a RWD car with a relatively tall 1st gear
- Start on Special Stage Route 5
- Select the chase camera
- Stop in the middle of the last corner of SSR5
- Turn the wheel to one side and start very slowly. The car should oddly drift sideways a bit.

Do you notice that the strange "low speed drift" immediately stops at 5 Km/h? This is also reflected in the wheel force feedback.

Have a car in mind?

One thing that I've felt GT5 doesn't have enough of is engine braking, which might play into this lift off oversteer thing. Only first gear has any significant engine braking and even then it's much less voilent than in my real life experience.
The car will spin with braking (with ABS off) so weight transfer is in there, now if engine braking was increased the same would happen

For example in my car, I can hold constant speed with engine braking alone on 2nd gear going downhill even on signficant declines.
So maybe the suspension is not so bad in GT5, but what about the engine/transmission side?

And the Turbos in GT5 must have some of the weakest boost settings in the world. You can usually expect a 50% increase in power with a turbo running moderate boost levels of about 5 PSI even on factory engines
A 500hp engine getting only 50hp from a turbo is just wrong....

 

[shirakawaa]

Try with the Toyota Tacoma if you have it. I tested this strange behavior with that car.

 

[CoolColJ]

Try with the Toyota Tacoma if you have it. I tested this strange behavior with that car.

I saw it with a stock Eunos roadster as well, with controller

edit - ok with a wheel and a Z28 Camaro, the FFB goes dead at under 5kph when trying to salom...

 

[CoolColJ]

Can anyone confirm if Nurburgring GP feels more bumpy to you with a wheel post v1.05?
The last time I drove on it, pre v1.05, it felt smooth and sterile.

I just had a race on there with a BMW Concept 1 series tii '07 (which feels great and handles nice BTW) and I was feeling nice feedback on the track.

 

[DongHungLong]

And the Turbos in GT5 must have some of the weakest boost settings in the world. You can usually expect a 50% increase in power with a turbo running moderate boost levels of about 5 PSI even on factory engines
A 500hp engine getting only 50hp from a turbo is just wrong....

Joke post?

The reason you only get 50hp with the Stage 1 is because it is a very small turbo and makes peak boost early in the rpms. Benefits are that it is basically instant power with no lag. Honestly the numbers are pretty accurate.

And a 50% increase in power? With an engine built to the hilt and a twin turbo setup maybe. Figure your your engine stages into your numbers and you probably are getting about a 50% increase.

 

[CoolColJ]

^ Well the lack of boost numbers is what does my head in



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Hmmm they changed a lot of things, which they didn't mention in the change log in v1.05....such as the LFA sound and track physics. I mentioned Nurburgring GP felt different FFB wise.

Well after v1.05 Le Mans moves the car around alot more at high speed. The LFA actually goes airbourne in one spot! Braking down from high speed without ABS in this car is pretty scary! I actually crashed out doing so when this video fades off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGisXx-DaxY



And I tried a lift off oversteer test on the RUF BTR. Now some FWD cars should have it to, but I haven't seen it yet in GT5...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3RSt-fsgFU