Stop the "Grandpa-Cars" – I filed an official complaint with Sony (Case #50228XXX)

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GT's at its absolute best when you and your mates get to wring some absolute turdboxes around tracks they have no business being at. Shame people don't realise this and decide to play 🤢🤢🤢 Sport Mode 🤢🤢🤢 instead.
 
Real sim racing is about the pinnacle of automotive engineering like Koenigsegg
That's an interesting statement, considering that Koenigsegg only produced exactly 1 racing prototype in all their history almost 20 years ago!

Anyways, come to Forza Horizon, we have (almost) all the Koenigs. We mostly use them for speed trap busting or insane long-distance jumping.
 
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Want a race car only dedicated game?
Go play Assetto Corsa Competizione, Le Mans Ultimate and some oficial WRC and F1 games.
You're playing the wrong game my friend.
Sorry to say that.
This is the same thing as complaining about a Souls-like game extremely high difficulty level.
 
You are not "the community." I'm fine with "boring" cars like the Toyota AE86 and Renault Avantime because, from my experiences, they can be just as enjoyable to drive as race cars. In fact, the Avantime being in GT7 and me being fortunate enough to drive it in VR are both huge reasons I now unironically would love to have an Avantime in real life.

Please do not pretend to speak on behalf of the entire Gran Turismo fanbase.

Also, ChatGPT? The least you could do is DeepL or Google Translate.
 
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I personally like driving "grandpa cars".

Seinfeld George shrug.webp
 
A nice balance, with everyday cars favoured, is best, IMO. Classic GT is full of lower spec econoboxes and ordinary cars. Racing cars and hypercars are cool too, but the spirit of GT is much in the former, I think. GT1-6 is a case in point.
 
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This photo shows a race I've just been a part of last Sunday night. Spec Racing Club's Coffee Break races usually involve PP, tyre, power and/or mass limits, but otherwise is a free–for–all, and I really love the sheer amount of options the game gives me to meet those regulations.

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(Photo by @Obelisk )

To me, Gran Turismo's identity in the racing game market is that it's primarily focused on road cars. It's a very special kind of joy I can't describe when I see a car I've driven IRL appear in the game, and more importantly, it's the only game that lets me race SUVs, supercars, concept cars, and racecars on (roughly) even footing without the hassle of mods, and there is always a healthy player base for this kind of shenanigans to make finding races and clubs easy. I wouldn't want GT to change that for anything.

While I don't find joy in driving a C-HR in GT7, I do very much appreciate its inclusion in the game. The liveries people make for zany cars like the Carry and Hiace are a genuine joy to browse, and having a Prius in the game helps me better appreciate just how awesome a Supra is, for instance. I think a lot of folks here are already severely desensitised to speed in GT7 due to Sport Mode putting so much emphasis on racecars, resulting in claims such as the NSX-R '02 stops poorly, for instance. I think if GT7 were to feature only cutting–edge hypercars like The One:1 and AMG One, those ultra–fast machines would lose their sense of speed and what makes them so special, because there would be no context to their capabilities.

Would I love to have an Agera or a T.50 in GT7? Hell yeah. But I also think it'd be a mistake for GT to focus solely on a certain class of cars. I also want an AZ-1 and an AsparaDrink RX-7. For better or worse, PD is a very opaque company that is very selective about their avenues of feedback, and a lot of complaints from the community are still unaddressed as of today. I've always gotten the feeling that GT is Kaz's baby, and he's only sharing it with us, not letting us raise it.
 
We need to let them know that the community wants real cars and real racing content, not this filler stuff.
You do realize that your opinion might be different than the whole community ? GT Sport biggest mistake was to split the GT community. Half want ****boxes, half want racecars. You just got 3 racecars with Evo parts and you already forgot about them ...
 
I think a lot of folks here are already severely desensitised to speed in GT7 due to Sport Mode putting so much emphasis on racecars, resulting in claims such as the NSX-R '02 stops poorly, for instance. I think if GT7 were to feature only cutting–edge hypercars like The One:1 and AMG One, those ultra–fast machines would lose their sense of speed and what makes them so special, because there would be no context to their capabilities.

Absolutely this! Speed is relative! The law of diminishing returns applies here so appropriately.

When you've raced the variety of cars that GT7 has, you begin to realise that whatever you're driving can feel fast. Quite often the best races online happen in the slowest cars, and history has shown when you put people behind the virtual wheel of a car with too much power for their own good, it doesn't end well.
 
Might be the funniest thing I've read here.
Maybe this is just Opel's way to tease more Opels coming to the game in the future? :eek:
Can we have a Kadett pretty please? And just generally more of those "old Opels"? My father had a red Kadett when I was a child, so a lot of warm feelings towards those cars.
 
Might be the funniest thing I've read here.
Maybe this is just Opel's way to tease more Opels coming to the game in the future? :eek:
Can we have a Kadett pretty please? And just generally more of those "old Opels"? My father had a red Kadett when I was a child, so a lot of warm feelings towards those cars.
They'll always be Vauxhall Corvettes and Astras to me.

 
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Personally, when driving cars in a game, I enjoy exotics like Koenigseggs, but I also enjoy classic attainable cars like the Golf GTI, Fiesta XR2 etc. Kaz isn't that young any more, you know, maybe he adds cars that he likes and finds interesting?
 
This must be satire right?
That’s how I would imagine a speech by trump would sound like if he would rant about GT.

First you get the Franchise and what it stands for wrong, have undoubtedly wrong claims in it, exaggerate things to make reality fit your complaints and think your opinion matters the most it seems.

I for example don’t have a lot of interest in more Hypercars being added, they are often overpowered, not that well balanced and often not that fun to drive, especially on a track (imo).
I would love that you would be right and there would be old Opels in the Game, I would celebrate a Opel GT or Manta much more than any Koenigsegg to be honest.
What does even have „having Hypercars in the Game“ to do with being a Driving Simulator? Why isn’t it a Simulator if no Koenigsegg‘s in it? I don’t understand the logic behind this statement
 
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