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I'm not sure if it's fear of rejection, so much as fear of looking like a nervous idiot. She is way out of my league, but I have always been captain nice guy and shes very lovely and sweet, so even if she did reject me, i assume she would let me down easy.
Okay. I need you to define Cpt. Nice Guy. Because there is a big difference between being a Beta male and just being nice.
I don't think you could be in a more enviable position, to be honest. That's spectacular. Really happy for you.So I found a Unicorn. A girl that is willing to put up with my car BS because well... she's a car girl.
It's only a matter of time until she wrecks his car.I think everyone in this thread is jealous of @Team THRT Drift and his lucky catch.
I mean she's a freshmen and i'm a senior. I keep readdressing her that as-well.
It's only a matter of time until she wrecks his car.![]()
For me, it seems like a good plan to ask out pretty green eyes to do something this weekend, but I may be out of town. I'll probably ask her to lunch, or a hot coffee. (Edit: A coffee.) Or tea.
I'm still having mixed feelings about doing this, especially since the last time we spoke, I came off as an inconsiderate asshole. I keep saying snarky things. I don't mean it. Hopefully she's single (probably is.)
For the record, I was talking to her, and she mentioned that I am sort of an asshole to people. Honestly, I think I'm quite a proper guy, but I guess I'm wrong.
(Maybe it's a byproduct of me going to the gym lately and being super active outdoors and in life in general at the moment. Dropped 5lbs and I'm looking more and more musclebound.
Someone slap me, I probably need it.)
So I wrote waaaaaaaaay too much stuff about this topic 2 pages ago so if you want some extremely convoluted backstory, you can go find that.
But anyway, a fair bit has happened since then. Knowing me though, it'll probably be another very long post. Hence the spoiler.
In hindsight, that last post is painful. As in I can't read it without cringing hard. I mean for God's sake, could I be any more over dramatic? 🤬 me...
Anyway, a day after I posted that, I was going to write another long, overblown, melodramatic essay about... I don't know actually. It would probably just be the same stuff regurgitated from my last post but halfway through writing it, I thought that this would be no different to what I was doing before. This won't fix anything! If I wanted to feel any better about this, I needed to tell her. So I told her about last year, how awkward I'm being and all that in one of my lesson breaks and I'm so glad I did because I've felt much happier with myself ever since.
After that, we started talking a bit more in person which is miles better for me because I over think everything. She's also desperately trying to get me into Supernatural, so much so that she's given me the season 1 box set which I'm slowly going through. I can only watch about one episode at a time before I start shouting "SO MANY LAZY HORROR TROPES AHHHH STOP TRYING TO BE SO EDGY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD", but she doesn't need to know that. It's the thought that she gave me the box set which matters the most to me.
Anyway, last week was fairly significant for obvious reasons and since we both had time off the following week, I felt like that this probably the best time to say something. So I wrote her a letter, which I admitted later (in the letter, actually) was mainly a ruse just so I could give her my number and say that we should hang out some time. She text me back saying that the letter was "cute but mainly funny" and she had no idea I felt about her like that, along with some other stuff about how she'd like to meet up as well. I thought this was going fairly well but every time I've tried to organise something, she's said that she's got plans already or that she'll get back to me, which is usually just a way of rejecting me a few hours later, usually under the guise of "I'd like to hang out but I don't really want to do that, sorry!". I'm getting kinda frustrated and I'm telling myself that it's not going to happen this week, but I really want this to work out. I'll try one more time today but if that doesn't work... I don't know. I'll probably just come completely clean with her and ask her if she sees me the same way I see her.
So yeah. That's everything up to now. Let's hope this goes this well.
I don't think you could be in a more enviable position, to be honest. That's spectacular. Really happy for you.![]()
Well there's your problem.
Does your job allow lunch breaks? If so, I would start with asking her to go to lunch first. Then ask for her number during.I need some ideas on where to take a girl out on a first date.
This girl is a colleague of mine, and although we've been working together for a while now, we don't know each other all that much. For that reason, I want to invite her somewhere that is as casual as possible, a place where we could just sit down and chat for a while to see if there's enough interest on both sides to continue.
A cafe would be a perfect spot, but I already tried inviting her to one after work last week and was turned down. However we finish work at 9PM, and I know that she has very controlling parents that wouldn't enjoy the idea of their daughter being out this late with some guy they never heard of, so I'm guessing that is the reason why.
I've been thinking of inviting her to a posh cafe on the weekend but at this point it doesn't seem like it would be a very original idea. Are there any other spots that I should consider?
I mean i get it, she'll grow up. My mom adores her, her parents are amazing, and i love them. Its just im out of the lovey dovey stage. And she's still in that stage. I mean i can easily relate, she over thinks, she gets depression, she has anxiety etc. I get it. I deal with the same thing. But the fact i always have to reassure her. Its making me second guess this relationship. Don't get me wrong, i absolute adore her. She's super sweet and caring, she lives next door, and she has a huge heart. But she's needy, she needs the attention, she always want to hang out. And i like my space too, which is something she kinda getting but not really, she feels like "Ugh he wants more space, i feel like he's uninterested in me". I can only hang out with her on the weekend. Since my classes goes first, and i need good grades to transfer out from Community College. She just gets way to worried, and over thinks our relationship. I just can't hang out with her everyday, i mean over christmas thats what we did we hung out everyday. And soon as schools started for her, it hit her hard.
I feel like you misunderstood me. The fact that you keep reminding her that she's a freshie and you're a senior is a problem.
She's well aware of this fact. She knew what she was getting herself into.
But you constantly reminding her is pushing her over the edge because she feels like the relationship will end when you go to Community College. She's essentially trying to get the most out of this before it's over.
I get what you mean. It is completely unlike me to get mad at someone due to their relationship status. I'd just brush it off. At this point, I don't even care, especially after this.Just ask her out mate. If she says no, try to find out why. Don't come off as defensive or anything like that. Don't act offended just state your curiosity on the matter.
Understood, but I'm the type to let things flow naturally. I had a desire to ask about her, but many people I converse with tend to shift focus on to me due to my interesting circumstances. Who I am, why I'm here, etc. People find it aggressively interesting, especially considering I'm from boonieville Midwest. West coast people lose their mind when they find out.^I'm not one to talk but you may want to learn when to say things are getting uncomfortable. Setting boundaries can help (or hurt if done too an extreme).
I'm not really following what you're saying.Just be careful and be wary of things she says or does. People's actions betray their intentions.
Ha, I thought you were mentioning something more grave than that.To bring this back to your case, keep an eye on how she positions herself when she talks to you. Does she move closer? Does she stay where she is? Is she making or avoiding eye contact? Things like that.
Oops, i had a typo, i am currently attending Community College. This semester im finishing my GED, then i have one more semester, and off i am to Montreal [Hopefully], and im planning to continue the relationship even so.
It seems like there may be something. Don't jump the gun.Okay, some updates:
As i mentioned before we are both somewhat shy, until someone breaks the ice, then we are open and can talk no problem. Yesterday i think confirmed that theory, as we haven't talked much lately, and she said something to me, which opened me up for conversation and we talked a bit more throughout the day. Most of the time lately i have been sort of avoiding her so as to not have any awkward encounters, and it sort of seemed like she was doing the same thing. Mine was always: Um, I need to go in this room to clean stuff or whatever. And hers seemed: Hmm, this poster on the wall is somewhat interesting.
Today: When walking through the halls past each other it's always either, a little smile between the two of us, or of course it's: That's a cool poster. But today, while i was sweeping, and therefore looking down, she gave me a polite, hey, along with her as always beautiful smile. A bit different as it is usually a polite glance. She had to fill in as a teacher today and of course they can't leave the kids alone in the rooms, so when teachers need to talk to each other, they usually lean out of the doors. I was walking toward the three of them, but was still a ways away, when they finished their conversation, all of them went straight back into the rooms, except she lingered a little bit to look down the hall, in my direction. Looking at me or for something? I don't know.
The main thing however today was when she was facetimeing with her friend from work, I assumed based on the context of what they were saying. When i was in the front desk area the conversation was normal, about hanging out and stuff, but when i went away from the desk toward the various rooms (keep in mind the day care center isn't very big, so i can still somewhat hear them.) and the conversation seemed more personal when i was further away. I'm pretty sure I heard her friend say: "He obviously likes you, just ask him out!" I didn't hear it all that well, so it might not be what she said. When i went into the laundry room, which is near the desk, but you can't really see it from there, i "overheard" her saying: "Well, of course i would like to be in a relationship, but sometimes i feel like being single is easier." "What do you mean?" "I just, feel like I always end up pushing guys away for some reason." Then she mentioned something about her Ex-boyfriend which i didn't hear too much of as i was putting on my jacket and opening the laundry room door, but it seems there is someone who she might be interested in, which I thought might be her ex boyfriend and wanting to get back together or something, but I realized that That she referred to her Ex by his mane and to the person who she likes as him. (me perhaps?) When I went up to the desk to clock out, the subject seemed like it had abruptly changed, as she started talking about TV shows suddenly. I said good bye, but rather than her standard, almost generic sounding good bye, she looked up at me and happily said: "Good bye! see you later!" Could that have been an awkward sort of happy? As in she was thinking: Bye! I like you and I really hope you didn't hear that! sort of nervous? Is there anything here or am I just jumping at shadows?
Okay, some updates:
As i mentioned before we are both somewhat shy, until someone breaks the ice, then we are open and can talk no problem. Yesterday i think confirmed that theory, as we haven't talked much lately, and she said something to me, which opened me up for conversation and we talked a bit more throughout the day. Most of the time lately i have been sort of avoiding her so as to not have any awkward encounters, and it sort of seemed like she was doing the same thing. Mine was always: Um, I need to go in this room to clean stuff or whatever. And hers seemed: Hmm, this poster on the wall is somewhat interesting.
Today: When walking through the halls past each other it's always either, a little smile between the two of us, or of course it's: That's a cool poster. But today, while i was sweeping, and therefore looking down, she gave me a polite, hey, along with her as always beautiful smile. A bit different as it is usually a polite glance. She had to fill in as a teacher today and of course they can't leave the kids alone in the rooms, so when teachers need to talk to each other, they usually lean out of the doors. I was walking toward the three of them, but was still a ways away, when they finished their conversation, all of them went straight back into the rooms, except she lingered a little bit to look down the hall, in my direction. Looking at me or for something? I don't know.
The main thing however today was when she was facetimeing with her friend from work, I assumed based on the context of what they were saying. When i was in the front desk area the conversation was normal, about hanging out and stuff, but when i went away from the desk toward the various rooms (keep in mind the day care center isn't very big, so i can still somewhat hear them.) and the conversation seemed more personal when i was further away. I'm pretty sure I heard her friend say: "He obviously likes you, just ask him out!" I didn't hear it all that well, so it might not be what she said. When i went into the laundry room, which is near the desk, but you can't really see it from there, i "overheard" her saying: "Well, of course i would like to be in a relationship, but sometimes i feel like being single is easier." "What do you mean?" "I just, feel like I always end up pushing guys away for some reason." Then she mentioned something about her Ex-boyfriend which i didn't hear too much of as i was putting on my jacket and opening the laundry room door, but it seems there is someone who she might be interested in, which I thought might be her ex boyfriend and wanting to get back together or something, but I realized that That she referred to her Ex by his mane and to the person who she likes as him. (me perhaps?) When I went up to the desk to clock out, the subject seemed like it had abruptly changed, as she started talking about TV shows suddenly. I said good bye, but rather than her standard, almost generic sounding good bye, she looked up at me and happily said: "Good bye! see you later!" Could that have been an awkward sort of happy? As in she was thinking: Bye! I like you and I really hope you didn't hear that! sort of nervous? Is there anything here or am I just jumping at shadows?
It seems like there may be something. Don't jump the gun.
Best thing to do is read the atmosphere. Have an idea of what the mood of the room is.Yeah, if I asked her out tomorrow, it'd be pretty obvious that I "overheard" her conversation. Of course I am not sure if any of this is in reference to me, but seeing as it was a conversation between a co worker, aka, someone who knows me, then it is either in reference to someone random who they both know and met somewhere or me, seeing as i am the only guy that works there.
@Team THRT Drift I'll see what I can do.![]()
Yeah, if I asked her out tomorrow, it'd be pretty obvious that I "overheard" her conversation. Of course I am not sure if any of this is in reference to me, but seeing as it was a conversation between a co worker, aka, someone who knows me, then it is either in reference to someone random who they both know and met somewhere or me, seeing as i am the only guy that works there.
@Team THRT Drift I'll see what I can do.![]()