The General Relationship Thread

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@NoobMan DS
I think the whole "If they broke up with you they never loved you" thing is utter bull. I've been with girls, felt a strong bond with them, like they were the one for me, and then it fades. I mean love is just a bunch of chemical reactions in the brain so they can stop and start.

Well, alright, as I said I've never been in a relationship myself, so I'm not the best person to make a comment on it. There's certainly some truth to the last line you typed. I won't make a direct comment on the previous sentences, because I'm not even you and I can't determine which part of it was right or not.

The next thing I'm gonna say, is not specifically directed at you. I say that first as a caveat.

By nature, it seems true that the goal in physical attraction is for the two individuals to unleash their reproductive value. There are hormones and chemicals involved in such happenings, such as oxytocin. There's science involved in everything, and nowadays we rely on the scientific method to come to an understanding of how things work. They're a part of life.

But through simply knowing this and taking it for granted, you're subconsciously oversimplifying things. You can start thinking like, this causes that, that causes this, and so on, to the point where it's a perfectly linear way of thinking. A human relationship isn't like that, isn't it.

Here comes a series of questions to think about. At the start, is your wish for a relationship pleasure-derived or happiness-derived? Are you just gonna have someone to hug every ten seconds, have a few laughs when you meet each other, and think about what's gonna happen in bed sometime in the future, or do you want the relationship to be something much more? Are you just gonna do it similar to the wild animal way, quickly humping another animal, then another one after you're finished, then another one, then another one, just after witnessing such physical attractiveness, for the sake of pleasure and then, reproduction? (of course, it's not even as simple as this for animals, I'm also oversimplifying things here, and it can sound too extreme, because none of us does it completely like that, but I hope you get the point - I'm talking about mindset here) Or, are you gonna exercise your mind to improve the extensions of a loving relationship, to mean something much greater? Do you really want your concept of a relationship to be similar to sexual attraction between animals? (yes, technically we're also animals, but I'm talking about the other ones here) Our minds are better than theirs, right?

Do the strong feelings for your significant other still fade with the latter mindset? Well, sometimes you have to think, think, and think, instead of just relying on the feelings you get at a certain point in time to make decisions. Do you really believe he or she is not worth it anymore? What were the things you did together? How did you help each other? Why were you attracted to him or her in the very first place? Do you believe that it is still hopeless after you asked yourself these questions? Or, has your significant other truly been a valuable and important part of your life?

Do you still think that, undertaking those series of thought processes will not produce positive results either? You can't overcome the overwhelming displeasure or dissatisfaction, carried out by those hormonal and chemical reactions? Well, the thought processes you undertake also create chemical reactions. And unlike most animals, our minds possess the ability to reason, as we all know. Ultimately, it is through reasoning that we make decisions and act, isn't it. It is possible for negative emotions to impair the ability in reasoning, but it does not mean that emotions must rule over reason, for if that is true, the purpose of reasoning is defeated.

And, sorry, maybe it's misleading to describe that if someone left you, he or she didn't even love you in the very first place. But it depends on your concept of love, it seems. If he or she doesn't bother to think before the breakup on whether the significant other was really worth it or not, only relying on the feeling that it just doesn't seem to work anymore, maybe it's true that he or she didn't love you in the very first place. I don't know, I can't confidently define what love is either.

Lust as a response to physical attractiveness is simply hormonal and chemical reactions. Love, or a loving relationship, however...well, it is certainly still related to hormonal and chemical reactions, actually. But we still can't define it clearly. Love is still more like an ideal, and each of us gives various meanings to it. Each person can still interpret it differently. To a certain extent, it is a commitment, I'd say. But we still haven't come to an agreement on what it is.

...and so, no need to take what I say seriously, because after all, it's just a collection of my own ideals.


@NoobMan DS

Honestly, I've said it before but if the initial attraction isn't there, I won't pursue someone.

...well, that makes sense.

But I didn't say that physical attractiveness doesn't have a role. It does create interest. Certainly it's gonna be hard for one to even get remotely interested in someone that looks like a Youabian Puma, except you have a hormonal disorder that gets you infatuated with him or her. What I tried to imply was that, it shouldn't be prioritized as the primary incentive to get into a relationship with him or her. One has to look further than that. Someone initially less attractive to you can potentially become more interesting than someone who was initially the most attractive to you, due to certain experiences I outlined in my previous post. And the person that was initially less attractive to you can potentially provide you more happiness in the long run.

That. Was. The. Deepest. Thing. I've. Ever. Read.
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The feels. :hug:

Thank you :)

I didn't think that it would cause such feelings though...
 
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Well ****. Girl I was kinda digging is talking kind of with someone else or talking with. I only found out because she sat down right next to me to talk to some guy and another girl walking by said "oooh you're talking to him again" and she laughed and said shut up. I guess that is out the window. Sucks because I sit in front of her and she's really well taught and has a hot voice :/
 
@NoobMan DS Wow. I basically agree with everything you said. I couldn't have said it better if I wanted to. Except for the "never loved you after breaking up with you" part. I'm sort of 50/50 on that, but i think I'm more biased to the love fading side of it.
 
Maybe I didn't really think that through. I didn't describe it so well. It is undoubtedly still possible that one becomes a completely different person after some time, to the point where it's extremely appalling, so the partner wants to leave him or her behind for good. I believe I was thinking scenarios where one leaves the other just because he or she suddenly finds someone else seemingly more appealing, and sees a new, prospective significant other out of that person, which is unprincipled, capricious, and.....somewhat evil, it seems.
 
That glorious post full of epic feels
@NoobMan DS Wow. I basically agree with everything you said. I couldn't have said it better if I wanted to. Except for the "never loved you after breaking up with you" part. I'm sort of 50/50 on that, but i think I'm more biased to the love fading side of it.

So, for one:
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Secondly:

About that controversial "never loved you after breaking up with you" part... I believe ProMan maybe, MAYBE!!!, means that if the reason for the breakup is "sowwy it just doesn't work anymoar", then there must have have been something wrong from day one. What the hell does 'not working' even mean...? I'm not accepting this as an 'apology', I think it's a very dumb and immature thing to say.

Maybe I'm wrong, which I probably am, but hey, at least I tried.
 
Meh, I don't really care actually. It feels just like another day. I don't understand what it's supposed to be about, or why are we celebrating it, or the relation to its origins. (other than the fact that Valentine was the name of a certain saint)


Anyway, first post here. Just to keep it slightly more on-topic - I've never had a significant other, and I'm 19. Ever had sad feelings that I don't seem to have a loving someone by my side? Well, sometimes.

But, I suppose it's much better than some of you who had long-term relationships and suddenly got dumped. It must be devastatingly painful to have the belief that there's a certain someone who acceptingly loves you suddenly shattered. You must feel cheated, as if you were living a lie. But the thing is, if there seems to be no particular reason on why you suddenly were left behind, maybe he or she didn't actually love you in the very first place. (except you did something so horrendous such as cheating on him or her that caused severe mental breakdown, or you actually didn't know each other so well prior to the relationship)

I think that a truly loving relationship involves accepting each other for what they are, but also not being afraid to acknowledge the flaws of each other. You can't perfectly mold someone to be wholly like the idealistic partner you wished or imagined; I don't think you can actually find that person. That doesn't mean one has to be a suck-up all the time in a relationship; one should always be willing to state what he or she doesn't like. But you can't expect him or her to eliminate all the shortcomings. I think that when there are strong feelings between the couple, to the point where both share similar values, are fully comfortable in sharing or listening to details of personal issues, and are willing to trust, understand, and help each other, a relationship should remain intact. If it breaks, most likely love wasn't even there in the very first place.

The case of physical attractiveness is natural and it may add to the relationship, but it shouldn't be the primary incentive in determining whether you "like" a person in the very first place. You may find him or her to be the most handsome or prettiest, but he or she will never be half as beautiful as the person who you had tons of deep conversations with and managed to get the most understanding from. In the end, you will barely have feelings for the most physically attractive person. (except you feel so bewitched by his or her looks, to the point that you start fantasizing about what kind of person he or she is, which is actually not a case of being attracted to her in the end as well - you just need to force some sense into yourself in such moments, before it ruins your mental health)


But, what am I doing anyway. I've never even been in a relationship. There may be a lot of things regarding it that I don't understand. It's just another collection of my own ideals. I just feel like posting this, even though it's not completely relevant to the previous posts on this particular page. It's relevant to the thread's title, right.
i never thought this came out from someone who never have a relationship, nice one man. I absolutely agree with you.
 
Finally, she has gone mental...

Yesterday she said she was desintoxicating from everything...

and everyone...





I'm planning to give her plenty of time this time: forever... She is simply too unstable, too sick, too coward...

This makes me sad, because she was my 1st in many things... 1st kiss, 1st date on Valentines day... you get the point...

Sadly, I couldn't be the last man in her life... but what can you do, when a girl prefers cheap Nissans, instead of an impecable black Porsche that even has her name on the keys???





Time to move on.





I'm not calling you a liar, just don't lie to me...
I'm not calling you a thief, just don't steal from me...
I'm not calling you a ghost, just stop haunting me...
And I love you so much, I'm gonna let you kill me...
 
Well, I was looking through old music videos and I just realized that a girl that I mentioned getting her number looks just like Nelly Furtado :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy: Haven't talked to her in a month or so.
 
In this thread, there's no such thing as an awesome valentine.
Consider me the happy exception to the rule then. 11 months strong and we've risen to the challenge of long distance (2 hour drive) for 6 months now.

Remember, you're having crappy Valentines until you take charge and change things. I haven't seen many girls asking guys out
 
Remember, you're having crappy Valentines until you take charge and change things. I haven't seen many girls asking guys out

I think Im the exception to your rule (So many exceptions :p). I took action and it backfired, resulting in an even worse Valentine's day.
 
I think Im the exception to your rule (So many exceptions :p). I took action and it backfired, resulting in an even worse Valentine's day.
Hey, you won't hit a homerun every time you step up to the plate ;) That's what makes it so much fun when you do
 
oh man.


There's two girls I like.


Ones in 7th Grade, Ones in 11th Grade. Age doesn't matter right C:? One lives 30min away one lies 20min away. 🤬 Complicated man. Grrr :banghead:

One likes video games, which I totally want to fall for. GAH.
 
The oldest the better in my opinion. But since you're only two years apart from the youngest it isn't that shocking.
All down to the chart man.
 
The oldest the better in my opinion. But since you're only two years apart from the youngest it isn't that shocking.
All down to the chart man.


The 16 year old one, is quite well insecure I can say, She got cheated on 2 times and got dumped on Valentines Day, Shes not to trusty on guys since that. As the other one, well she seems like perfect c:. But both of them are >.>. This will be hard...
 
Don't go for the younger one. I went for a girl two years younger and she just wasn't mature enough mentally for us to work. I did love her for a time but I ended up realising we weren't ultimately compatible. Also mates of mine who've been with younger girls, didn't end up working either.

In other news, I'm being set up with a girl for next Friday, we're all going in a group because she's really nervous around guys but we have all common interests and she approves of my looks and vice versa so this could work.
 
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