The General Relationship Thread

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[...} just say hi. Maybe it will spark a convo.
Say "Would it be rude of me to say you are the personification of absolute perfection?" :sly: (thank Stephen Fry for that)

On a serious note just say hello and ask what her name is, most times the simplest of introductions is best.
I'll try. I might not be able to get a sound out, but I'll give it a go, - also the Fry-line.

Is it normal that a girl you like decided to sit very close to you even though there is a lot of space on the bench? Or am I just reading into it a little bit too much?

- I think you might be reading a bit too much into it... We just walked by each other.
 
Why do I have to be so picky with women....if they are not absolutely perfect in every possible way to my tastes I instantly write them off. UGH.

A little late but Im the EXACT same way. It's a curse. And I know people say not to do but it's just a habit. However this doesn't apply so much in looks for me but rather personality.
 
I freaking give up trying to find the one. A girl I've liked a lot for a very long time is leaving her husband, and I feel terrible about it. But at the same time I'm wondering if I should make a move in the future. Then I find out she has class with this kid that's asked her out pretty much every semester and with whom she admitted she thought was attractive and had she been single she would have taken him up on it. It's like, am I supposed to let time go by for her to heal but try to beat this other guy to the punch? If so how long? Yet, I feel really bad for wanting to pursue a relationship while she's going through such a hard time in her life. I wish I could just let it all go but my brain doesn't just turn off like that. Either way, my luck doesn't look too good. And maybe it's not supposed to be, you're not supposed to get a mad crush on a friend, especially when their hurting about their relationship...
 
Trying to make a a move on somebody who just finished his/her marriage it's, well... kinda rude... since it's obviously a time where emotions are not completely clear. But, since there is another man in pursuit of her, that changes things... Maybe a carefull approach to her would be the best thing, letting her know what you feel... but that's just me...

My case it's pretty much the same... she says she just came from a relationship that ended up wrong, that she needs time, that many things are going on inside her family, that she wants to leave the country.. blah blah blah... she says she's not ready... and all I know is that she doesn't believe a world I say... and that she doesn't trust me, despite all I've done, said, and everything... we went from being very close at the end of the year to be completely distant...

I've tried to be gentle, showed her I understand her... told her I could wait a little bit longer... but the fact she said she is really thinking about leaving on her own... I mean... It crushed me... Why? Because she said a hundred times before that we should do this, and that and go there, and even spend the night together ... Was she lying? Was she joking??? Was I stupid enough to believe her??? I don't know...:nervous:

Maybe that was my mistake... believing in her...

It's been days since we had a proper conversation... All I know... it's that every day, as distance grows between us... all the feelings I still have for her are starting to die as well... and while I pretend to be ok on the outside... my heart is just pulverized on the inside...
 
I know it's rude, and I'm seriously bothered by it. I don't want to try and make a move until she heals or gives me a proper signal. But I know if I make a move months and months from now, only to find out she's moved on and with somebody else, I'll be very upset. But it's also not just for me. I know her emotions are running wild, but I don't even want this as a typical relationship, as in, I don't want 'in her pants'. I really do care very much about her and want more to help her heal and for her to feel like she's loved, wanted, and admired. If she doesn't want that, then I can deal with that, and put it behind me. I also know her well enough to know that she would be touched by my feelings for her, even if she doesn't feel the same. I also know she might be upset with me for making a move, but she also knows me well enough to know that I do not wish to play her emotions. I would tell her that if she's not ready that I would still care about her opinion on the matter, that it's not like I will be upset with her if she needs more time or rejects me. That if she wants me more as a supportive friend, I will welcome that and be there. All in all it's a rough situation. If I knew I was going to hurt her by making a move I wouldn't. I do feel like even though she might not feel the same that she would still value my truthfulness, she's told me this before. I dunno, much to think about. Very hard to think about. I wish I didn't like her sometimes, and I wish I could just get it off my chest others, but I would never, ever dream of being so disrespectful as to say anything during her marriage. But now the timeline is not good. Also they might try and work it out too, and I am not opposed to that at all. Hard to think about. I think more than anything I need to work on myself - work on not obsessing over it.

As far as your friend goes. It sounds like she is very conflicted. Indeed she may care very much about you but feel like she needs to go on her own. I know what that's like, I did the very same thing to my last girlfriend. I just needed to leave, without her. Not because I didn't care for her, but because I knew I couldn't marry her, and to ask her to move across the country with me would be so mean and disrespectful to her if I had no plans on marrying her. I hurt her a lot by what I did. She didn't speak to me for nearly a year, but now we're very good friends because she understands how I felt, now. Your friend might be pushing you away because she does care for you and doesn't want to hurt you, and needs time alone to contemplate the situation. I know it's hard, but it sounds like she needs some alone time to think. I'm not sure what I would do in your situation, very difficult. It sounds like she does care, too much to lie or to joke around with you! Do not feel betrayed or feel like it was a mistake. Just try and think of what she's thinking about, that's what I'm trying to do.
 
You 'liked' her even though she was married?

You get as far away as you can right away.
Why do you say that? Just curious.

And yes, but I worked very hard to change those feelings. Until just recently, the past year I haven't thought of her as anything besides a friend. The possibility of her being single rehashed the crush. Also, I always respected her marriage and I hung out with her husband too. I was very careful not to show her any attention you would not show a normal friend. I had to realize that even though emotions cannot be helped, intentions can, and I had to make the effort to put any inappropriate feelings behind me, especially out of respect for her and her husband. I am not like other d-bags who don't care. I cared very much.
And unfortunately, I cannot just push her away, that's an even longer story!
 
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And another day of silence... :nervous:

Sometimes I think I should just tell her that "Ok, you win, I give up"... just to see if things can turn back into what they used to be... I don't wanna lose her :(

And... well... this is just an unreal situation for me... there is another girl in the equation...

Now I'm trapped between the girl I love the most, and a girl that likes me. Never loved someone like her (the 1st one) before, and never had a girl that actually liked me before (2nd one)...

I'm confused...
 
Dude I feel ya. For now, I'm just tired of thinking about it and I'm going to work on me. I'm going to work on being happy. Nothing is the end of the world, I know that. Losing someone to death is the 'end of the world'. For me, I need to sack up and realize someone I think is just my type, might not workout, but I know I still have many years ahead of me. I still think about it, but i'm so tired of worrying about it, and I'm forcing myself to move beyond that, grow a pair and try and be happy. I'm not saying in anyway you need to do the same, I'm sure you're plenty strong, stronger than I at least, but I do encourage you to find ways to distract yourself from it, like playing games, or hanging out with other friends. Not easy, and not a solution, but at least until a solution comes it can help make you a litte happier.
 
You see, that's pretty much what my best friend and another female friend told me to do: Let things flow, try to be happy and distract from it...

I'm not going to try to contact her for now on... if she really meant anything she said to me before, she'll have to seek me now... let's see if she can play the game the opposite way, being on the other side... in the meantime, I'll try to see what I can develop with this other girl and see if we are compatible to each other...

And yes... I need to do other things... I'm already preparing to return to the GYM in 2 weeks time (had to quit for a year because of school)... It should be a good way to convert all this feelings into a positive force...

And play... play a little bit more... I haven't touched my PS3 in days... tonight seems to be a good night though :)
 
Promised myself I'd man up and ask the girl I like out... that was over a week ago. But I think I'm getting the motivation to do it soon, just need to tell myself it'll be better to do it sooner. Kind of ironic that.
 
Promised myself I'd man up and ask the girl I like out... that was over a week ago. But I think I'm getting the motivation to do it soon, just need to tell myself it'll be better to do it sooner. Kind of ironic that.

Just go for it man ;) You can do it! :dopey:
 
XS
Why do you say that? Just curious.

And yes, but I worked very hard to change those feelings. Until just recently, the past year I haven't thought of her as anything besides a friend. The possibility of her being single rehashed the crush. Also, I always respected her marriage and I hung out with her husband too. I was very careful not to show her any attention you would not show a normal friend. I had to realize that even though emotions cannot be helped, intentions can, and I had to make the effort to put any inappropriate feelings behind me, especially out of respect for her and her husband. I am not like other d-bags who don't care. I cared very much.
And unfortunately, I cannot just push her away, that's an even longer story!

8 months is the correct amount of time to pursue someone after they've initiated formal divorce.
 
Lol thanks. I think, however, some people may take as long as they need to move on. Reading that is important. You certainly don't want to upset someone who hasn't moved on yet.
 
XS
Lol thanks. I think, however, some people may take as long as they need to move on. Reading that is important. You certainly don't want to upset someone who hasn't moved on yet.

8 months no matter what is the bare minimum until you're allowed to make a move. You obviously don't make a move if they're still wanting to be married.
 
8 months no matter what is the bare minimum until you're allowed to make a move. You obviously don't make a move if they're still wanting to be married.
What if they make the first move? And I didn't mean that you were wrong, I actually think that's a good timeline 👍.
 
XS
What if they make the first move?

I'd say, that if they make the first move, this rule can be looked over. However if you happend to know the other part of "the broken relationship", the rule might not be looked over. - I don't know if I'm wrong or right here, but that's just my opinion.
 
XS
I have no respect anymore for the other half, very abusive...

Then I'd say, you can look over the rule 👍. (Again, I'm not sure if I'm wrong or right here, but that's my opinion.)
 
XS
I have no respect anymore for the other half, very abusive...

I'd give around 6 months for the lady to get her head straight - especially if there was conflict in her previous relationship. I've rushed it in the past and lost a girl who I probably would have married.
 
Okay I have a question....

okay so there is a girl that I like no problem right? Well there is a catch, I never see her that much, or when I do she is in a hurry to get out ( I only see her at a play that I'm working backstage for) but I do see her sister... SOOO... my question to all of you albeit women or men what would you think if this happened to you (If you were the person who's number I was trying to get)

So men- If a girl came up to you and asked you for your brothers number what would you think?

Women- If a guy came up to you and asked for your sisters number what would you think?

I find this a tough situation because I don't want to seem like a jerk, help would be appreciated THANK YOU!
 
Before you go through an indirect route, surely you see her more than .0000000000008348845730587309 seconds at a time right?

Why not ask her for her number? If you say

"Hey, NAME OF PERSON"

And she replies "I can't talk now"

Ask her if she'll have time to speak over the phone/skype/internet later.
 
Exorcet
Before you go through an indirect route, surely you see her more than .0000000000008348845730587309 seconds at a time right?

Why not ask her for her number? If you say

"Hey, NAME OF PERSON"

And she replies "I can't talk now"

Ask her if she'll have time to speak over the phone/skype/internet later.

thats good th only thing is that I only see her when she comes down to change for the play that im working sound for... I only can go down after intermission so she might literally not have time to do that, maybe not but ill try that some time
 
Okay I have a question....

okay so there is a girl that I like no problem right? Well there is a catch, I never see her that much, or when I do she is in a hurry to get out ( I only see her at a play that I'm working backstage for) but I do see her sister... SOOO... my question to all of you albeit women or men what would you think if this happened to you (If you were the person who's number I was trying to get)

So men- If a girl came up to you and asked you for your brothers number what would you think?

Women- If a guy came up to you and asked for your sisters number what would you think?

I find this a tough situation because I don't want to seem like a jerk, help would be appreciated THANK YOU!

You can try asking for her number, but you might be more successful if you just ask her out for a coffee or something informal. Either way, I'd never ask another person, relative or not, for someone's phone number. If you can't get it directly, then indirectly isn't really cool in my opinion.
 
thats good th only thing is that I only see her when she comes down to change for the play that im working sound for... I only can go down after intermission so she might literally not have time to do that, maybe not but ill try that some time
It's hard, but you have to make it worth her time. In other words, don't just stop her in her tracks and pop that question. Make quick, witty small talk when you can. Then after a couple of times of making her giggle or talk, suggest that you would like to chat more after the play or on the weekend, see where that goes and if she seems receptive, ask if you can get her number. Trust me, it takes work, many people are a little thrown off if all of a sudden you go bang, "can I have your number?!" You might scope out her sister to see if she likes you too, but I wouldn't ask her sister for her number. That does a number of things. One, the sister might be insulted, two it's a little disrespectful, three it might show you don't have confidence, and lastly, it could so easily blow up in your face because you're trusting someone who you're not interested in to give the news (or to keep it secret) to someone you are (think about the game 'telephone' we played as kids). Best of luck man!
 
going well, taled to her for a while last night then she said before she left that she needs to talk to me tomorrow (today) so we will see how it goes!
 
Perhaps the wrong place to ask this, perhaps not as its similar to cggorman's question but have any of you guys ever asked a girl out (just for drinks or something) that you've literally just met because you've though my god she's perfect or along those lines, in terms of looks? I haven't but i was thinking about it today with a girl that was doing overtime in my work.
 
going well, taled to her for a while last night then she said before she left that she needs to talk to me tomorrow (today) so we will see how it goes!
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Perhaps the wrong place to ask this, perhaps not as its similar to cggorman's question but have any of you guys ever asked a girl out (just for drinks or something) that you've literally just met because you've though my god she's perfect or along those lines, in terms of looks? I haven't but i was thinking about it today with a girl that was doing overtime in my work.
If you're smooth about it and not creepy, no problem, go for it. Just ask her out and see. Plus, you don't want to end up friendzoned!
 
Perhaps the wrong place to ask this, perhaps not as its similar to cggorman's question but have any of you guys ever asked a girl out (just for drinks or something) that you've literally just met because you've though my god she's perfect or along those lines, in terms of looks? I haven't but i was thinking about it today with a girl that was doing overtime in my work.

Something like:

"Hey, cool (whatever). I (mention something you have in common with that thing or give a reason for liking it).
I'll be honest, hope I'm not being to bold though, but I think you're (cute, pretty...) and would like to buy you a drink sometime. How about it?"

Leave the ball in her court.

Here's what I said when I wanted to date my wife (or something along these lines):

"Wow, love your t-shirt, you like the Beatles (wearing a Beatles shirt)? You know, I was rocking to some St Pepper's before I came out tonight....God, it's loud in here (we met in a club), tell you what, how about Monday I'll buy you dinner and we can talk more because I think you're beautiful and would feel like a fool to pass this chance up."
 
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