The McLaren of Grand Tourers

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  1. RocZX

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    now that is just plain ugly in the rear.
     
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    It’s heavily camo’d. You can see the tail lamps hidden deeper inside. :odd:
     
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    New rules? Does that apply to the engine as well?
     
  5. KinLM

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    Am I the only one who wishes that McLaren would stop releasing a new car every week and go back to focusing on having a halfway competent F1 team instead?
     
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    It'd be nice if a new model forced the rest of the models to slow down a bit with there only being so many production lines & assembly teams to put the cars together, therefore saving at least, their resale values.

    But yes, agree completely.
     
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    McLaren Automotive (run by Mike Flewitt) and McLaren Racing (run by Zak Brown) are not the same company, although they are both owned by McLaren Group (chaired by Mohamed bin Isa Al Khalifa), along with McLaren Applied Technologies (run by Anthony Murray), and operate out of the MTC in Woking.

    What McLaren Automotive does every week doesn't have any bearing on what McLaren Racing is focussing on.
     
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    Didn't Mercedes already build the McLaren of grand tourers?
     
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    Starts to look better with less camouflage.
     
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    It looks more like a replacement for the 570GT than an all new model.
     
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    True. But they both deal with car engineers. How many of your top tier engineers are working on these road cars instead of the F1 car? McLaren could allocate that workforce to the F1 team and I fail to see how it would be anything but beneficial.

    I’m sure you’re going to disagree and that’s fine. They are, in fact, still relatively separate entities at the end of the day.

    But, you can also draw a very strong correlation between the increase of McLaren Automotive as a brand, and the decline of McLaren F1 team, even ignoring the whole Spygate situation.

    If it were a company like Mercedes? Okay, they’re big enough to where they likely can hire enough top-level talent to where it doesn’t matter; but McLaren, a small independent company? I’m not so sure.

    The argument could also be made that their road car company helps with income for McLaren as a whole, helping the F1 team in the process. But that clearly hasn’t been translating to results for the past few seasons.
     
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    Sales... which McLaren (total) relies upon.
     
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    I don't see how adding road car engineers to an F1 programme can be beneficial. Their F1 team needs a few people who really understand what it takes to create a competitive contemporary Formula One car. It doesn't need more manpower. It would be an obvious and easy fix if it was the case.
     
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    The difference between F1 engineering and consumer automotive engineering isn't so much the science and knowledge, but the culture. If you work if F1, you're expected to work all the time. You might get one day off every three weeks, and 18-20 hour days on race weekends or when deadlines loom are pretty normal. So while training an engineer on what's required for F1 might take a little while, the knowledge is mostly transferrable and at the end of the day most of the design techniques are similar, even if there are different amounts of emphasis put on different stages. At the end of the day,

    The other thing to point out is that throwing manpower at an F1 team isn't necessarily going to help at all. Adding road car engineers to an F1 team could be beneficial, but it requires a strategic approach with good management and a lot of forward thinking. My knowledge of F1 from the people I've known who have worked there is that it's a constant race against time. If you can beat that by either working on something for future seasons like Mercedes did a couple years ago then you'll naturally do better, but to do so requires smart management of the team in order to avoid falling too far behind on your current work.
     
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    I can't help ready the title of the thread and seeing a central driver seating position Bentley.
     
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    McLaren's design language is starting to get a bit conservative outside the Senna. I get that this "combines competition levels of performance with continent- crossing capability", but I didn't think it'd literally start to look like a combination of the 570S & 720S as well.
     
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    I thought the 570s was pretty new and fresh but obviously McLaren themselves don’t seem to agree with me.

    But hey I guess if they want to keep releasing a new model every 2 weeks then it’s their decision to make. The better for racing games I suppose.
     
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    This does not replace the Sports Series. It's another series of cars that will run parallel to the Sports and Super series
     
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    Are they claiming that this car would be the first to break that rule? If so, then this would be a feat of parental neglection towards F1.
     
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    It's basically 720S LT GT. Yawn. McLaren is really becoming the next Porsche when it comes to filling every possible niche in the sports car market.
     
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    Looks like a super car.

    Definitely not my style. That champagne color reminds me of a color that would be used on early 2000s concept builds.
     
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    It kind of is, but McLaren's made it easier to live with and given it a boot bigger than a VW Golf (and long enough for skis and golf bats, which is a dead giveaway).
    Well, we have a solution to that:

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    Not sure how I feel about the rear brake light design, but the rest of the car looks good, If not too subdued. I've been rather fond of their car designs as of late, so we will see how I feel about it in time.
     
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    Looks sexy. It would certainly make a great GTE car, but sadly they don't want to go that way.