The Thrustmaster T500RS Thread

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ara
Some initial impressions:
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Why are you using "some people" and "somebody" when you're talking about one person? Just say the person's name instead of trying to be nice about it, and failing.
 
eSZee
Why are you using "some people" and "somebody" when you're talking about one person? Just say the person's name instead of trying to be nice about it, and failing.
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Because by my recollection several people have complained in similar and different ways across various forums. I'm not a reporter and I have no concern about documenting who specifically said what.

My intent is not to be "nice about" anything in particular, it is to express my impressions of the product and to respond to other opinions I remember having read previously.
 
eSZee
Why are you using "some people" and "somebody" when you're talking about one person? Just say the person's name instead of trying to be nice about it, and failing.
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many people across several sites made the complaints.
maybe he is being polite? maybe he being a gentlemen? maybe he is too busy to search across several forums to find all the names who have made these statements?

relax and have a homebrew
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regardless, keep those comments coming you lucky T500RS owners!
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Ara, very detailed and what seems a level headed report.
Well done on writing that, probably the best written so far here.

I'd like to hear your reports on the emulation mode with other games and how you get on with various cars.
 
ara
- There is no dead spot in steering, but there is a small dead spot in terms of force feedback actuation. It feels a little weird going down a straight as you cross that threshold, it basically feels like the wheel's minimum possible force in the feedback is a bit higher than a perfect ideal, so when steering very slowly near center, when the feedback does engage, it feels like it engages a little more strongly than it should. I have no idea how good or bad this is since I don't have much basis for comparison.
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I think some of this is GT5 spring FFB. I just tried to race the X2010 at Monza with my G27 and the center FFB is so strong and tight I couldn't keep it straight. I was laughing hard because I was driving like I was drunk. In Gt5, different cars and tires has different center spring effect. Most of the race cars are tight (especially with racing tires) but at least controllable but X2010 is something else.
 
why doesn't amazon have this yet!? even for pre-order!? i have a g27 on order and another playseat evo and would love to cancel the g27 before they actually ship it out between feb. 04 - march 03....
 
This is my first post here after perusing anonymously for some time. Have enjoyed reading most posts about the T500. Should be connecting my T500 this evening if my local Fry's doesn't sell the one they're holding in my name. I hope to post some comments in a few days after trying it out.
 
ara
Some initial impressions:

- The force feedback action is very strong, it feels almost like there is very little power steering compared to a real car. I like that feeling.

- For example, if throttle is at 0%, the game appears to measure 0% until I get to 5% on the pedal itself, then the game's meter will jump to 5%.
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Is the wheel set to simulation and what is you FFB strength setting?

Could the pedal issue be due to calibration? There's a trick to calibrating. I think you need to press both pedals through their full travel whilst the wheel is calibrating when you start the game or during a race countdown. Someone more knowledgable can confirm what to do if you don't know.

Are you a drifter, have you tried?

Thanks for taking the time to provide you thoughts. :)
 
papaspurs
Is the wheel set to simulation and what is you FFB strength setting?

Could the pedal issue be due to calibration? There's a trick to calibrating. I think you need to press both pedals through their full travel whilst the wheel is calibrating when you start the game or during a race countdown. Someone more knowledgable can confirm what to do if you don't know.

Are you a drifter, have you tried?

Thanks for taking the time to provide you thoughts. :)
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So far I have only played with FFB = 10 and wheel = simulation in the options screen. Does changing those parameters in fact work for this wheel? I will try changing that, but the display in that particular options screen basically tells the player that those options are for the logitech wheels. I'll try it in any case.

I don't know about any tricks to calibrating and I'm not aware that you have to do anything special like what you describe to "calibrate." There is no verbiage like that in the documentation afaik. Maybe I'll have more information later.
 
Zoom!Zoom!
I think some of this is GT5 spring FFB. I just tried to race the X2010 at Monza with my G27 and the center FFB is so strong and tight I couldn't keep it straight. I was laughing hard because I was driving like I was drunk. In Gt5, different cars and tires has different center spring effect. Most of the race cars are tight (especially with racing tires) but at least controllable but X2010 is something else.
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That's one of the advantages to the Fanatec GT2. When I first tried the X1 it almost ripped the wheel out of my hand. So I set the deadzone to 20 and it drove nice.
 
I have searched to no avail. My question is will this T500RS fit on a Playseat WRC? I ask this due to already pre-ordering both these items.
If any of you have an answer for me I would greatly apreciate it. I would also like to know if this set-up will be a wobbly shaking mess while driving?
There has only been one review on the seat and it was very good. It however was with a different wheel. Thank ya, Vince
 
ara
So far I have only played with FFB = 10 and wheel = simulation in the options screen. Does changing those parameters in fact work for this wheel? I will try changing that, but the display in that particular options screen basically tells the player that those options are for the logitech wheels. I'll try it in any case.

I don't know about any tricks to calibrating and I'm not aware that you have to do anything special like what you describe to "calibrate." There is no verbiage like that in the documentation afaik. Maybe I'll have more information later.
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Dunno if it applies to the T500RS...

daymobrown
G25 (All Logitech?) Users Need to Calibrate there Pedals.

The default setting for the g25 pedal set, does not use the full travel of the pedals. This leaves you with a very sensitive brake pedal. You can test this by looking at the brake indicator bar, it tops out with only a small amount of travel.

This can be remedied by fully pressing all pedals before you start a race, I usually do this as soon as GT5 has fully booted (at the first menu).

I have heard a lot of people complaining about this problem, I was especially surprised to hear "Inside Sim Racing" complain about how sensitive the pedals where when they tested the Logitech family of wheels, they obviously don't know about pedal calibration.

Please spread the word, as this makes the whole GT5 / G25 experience so much smoother.
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https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=152805&highlight=Pedal+calibration
 
An easy way to tell if your pedals need to be calibrated is to start up Gt5 but do not touch the pedals. Start race or practice. Slowly press either pedal while watching Gt5 gas/brake gauge. If it suddenly jumps from 0% to 100% then you have to calibrate the pedals each time you load up GT5.
 
VINCE__
I have searched to no avail. My question is will this T500RS fit on a Playseat WRC? I ask this due to already pre-ordering both these items.
If any of you have an answer for me I would greatly apreciate it. I would also like to know if this set-up will be a wobbly shaking mess while driving?
There has only been one review on the seat and it was very good. It however was with a different wheel. Thank ya, Vince
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Should fit, someone earlier in this thread mentioned how, it should not wobble as the newer playseats have the supporting bar which the v1 (which RC and I have) does not.
 
Ok thank you very much. It is not to late to change my order from Amazon. If there is a better cockpit I would switch to it. I am just not having any luck with finding something better.
 
VINCE__
Ok thank you very much. It is not to late to change my order from Amazon. If there is a better cockpit I would switch to it. I am just not having any luck with finding something better.
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There are much better if you have the space and the cash...

A couple of quick examples (as we're off topic) but read through the rest of this section of the forum for more...

http://www.gamepod.co.uk/gt2.asp

http://www.fanatec.de/webshop/new_e...id=53&osCsid=447a86200673180726fa6bfb99e4030a
 
Thanks again friend. I cancelled the Playseat WRC and ordered the Game Pod GT2. I think the T500RS will mate a whole lot better with the GT2 with only minor mods. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I love this forum.
 
i would've stuck with the playseat! way cheaper and looks a lot better imo. Also mounting the T500RS shouldn't be a problem. I read a couple reviewers making a simple bracket to mount under their rig where the pedals will go since the holes dont line up and securing the pedals through that, but that's just an alternative to not having to drill the holes needed... hard to explain but im sure it'd be very easy to mount even with very minor modding!
 
Zoom!Zoom!
An easy way to tell if your pedals need to be calibrated is to start up Gt5 but do not touch the pedals. Start race or practice. Slowly press either pedal while watching Gt5 gas/brake gauge. If it suddenly jumps from 0% to 100% then you have to calibrate the pedals each time you load up GT5.
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Yeah, I have a habit of pressing all three pedals down as the track loads each race. It is required only once when you start GT5 but with habit I do it everytime without thinking since I got my DFP for GT4P (G25 now) and never have the out of calibration problem.
 
RC45
The X1 with the T500RS and "The Force" set anywhere from 3 to 5 is almost a sublime driving experience. Even with my "wobbly cockpit" it is vastly better than the G25 experience.
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This is good to know. It's probably due to the fact T500Rs has better precision which allows it's ffb to be more accurate.
 
Jay
I have a habit of pressing all three pedals down as the track loads each race. It is required only once when you start GT5 but with habit I do it everytime without thinking since I got my DFP for GT4P (G25 now) and never have the out of calibration problem.
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You mean the dozen times I cracked open my DFP to shimmy/de-shimmy/fiddle with the pedals from 2003 to 2010 could have been completely avoided?

I feel quite silly now. :dunce:
 
If you left foot brake and "cover" the brake pedal with your left foot, the PlaySeat is an ankle killer!

Should get an Obutto.
 
Ranger099
Can you tell me when you ordered it (date/time)?

Thanks!
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i am very sorry if i got anyone hyped up.

got home from work just now and GF told me to cancel my frys.com order.

i had ordered it from frys.com jan 6th the second i saw the link put up in this thread.

however as you can see i have just learned that the T500 RS set sitting next to the G25 playseat screaming Install me Install me lastnight, wasn't the set i ordred... i assumed it was, but it's a set that my GF picked up driving 100miles+ roundtrip from chino hills to frys in woodland hills.

she got annoyed enought about me going on and on every day after work about how my T500 RS or the fanatec GT2 CE order was once again not shipped... she when ahead calling every frys location in reach and picked it up at frys in woodland hills without telling me.
 
Chi
i am very sorry if i got anyone hyped up.

got home from work just now and GF told me to cancel my frys.com order.

i had ordered it from frys.com jan 6th the second i saw the link put up in this thread.

however as you can see i have just learned that the T500 RS set sitting next to the G25 playseat screaming Install me Install me lastnight, wasn't the set i ordred... i assumed it was, but it's a set that my GF picked up driving 100miles+ roundtrip from chino hills to frys in woodland hills.

she got annoyed enought about me going on and on every day after work about how my T500 RS or the fanatec GT2 CE order was once again not shipped... she when ahead calling every frys location in reach and picked it up at frys in woodland hills without telling me.
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You must marry her. Now. :)
 
ara
So far I have only played with FFB = 10 and wheel = simulation in the options screen. Does changing those parameters in fact work for this wheel? I will try changing that, but the display in that particular options screen basically tells the player that those options are for the logitech wheels. I'll try it in any case.

I don't know about any tricks to calibrating and I'm not aware that you have to do anything special like what you describe to "calibrate." There is no verbiage like that in the documentation afaik. Maybe I'll have more information later.
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The Simulation setting only applies to the Driving Force Pro....
After all this time people still don't get this :)
 

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