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I think Shane is just done with taking orders. Everything he tries to do someone shuts his ideas down. Of course he's going to snap an do something crazy. I do think he's right for killing the barn tho if anything happened those things would of eaten everyone.

Do you people watch the talking dead? It's like the after show where they bring in some cast, producer, etc. People were asking some good question like is Mural going to come back and if so which side will his brother Dale choose. Sort of the opposite of Shane where dale was kind of crazy and now has mellowed out.
 
So far this season has been amazing. Yeah it's been slow at times but what a mid-season finish! I kind of had the thought that Sophia was in the barn but still, what a cool scene they made with her coming out all zombiefied. I think it's safe to say that the group will leave the farm now. I would or perhaps take it over. Can't wait for this show to pick back up again.
 
**** Late Comer ****
I happend to catch the last episode of season 2 on TV a couple weeks ago and it sparked my interest, so I got my hands on season 1 which I finished last night (gets really good from episode 3 onward... Now on to season 2, even though I already saw the last episode of this season I'm still hooked... Great show! 👍
 
Well done finding it Blitz, season 2 is only half way through and the mid season break is due to end on 12th Feb so although the episode you saw would have made a fairly gobsmacking finale there's still more to come :D
 
Well done finding it Blitz, season 2 is only half way through and the mid season break is due to end on 12th Feb so although the episode you saw would have made a fairly gobsmacking finale there's still more to come :D

Is the 2nd half of the season beginning on 12th Feb in the UK too?
 
Well done finding it Blitz, season 2 is only half way through and the mid season break is due to end on 12th Feb so although the episode you saw would have made a fairly gobsmacking finale there's still more to come :D

I understand now... :D Just finished the first half of season 2 last night... Also pretty good... Can't wait to see what happends in the second half with all the drama going on within the group. 👍 Good stuff!
 
TheCracker
Is the 2nd half of the season beginning on 12th Feb in the UK too?

Probably not but based on the previous seasons it'll be less then a week behind.

Blitz187
I understand now... :D Just finished the first half of season 2 last night... Also pretty good... Can't wait to see what happends in the second half with all the drama going on within the group. 👍 Good stuff!

Looks like its all going to kick off big time :D
 
As you might have heard, frank darabont had been sacked/left from the AMC's Walking dead, this was his idea for Season 2 Episode 1.

I think this would have been an amazing episode.

My brother emailed me it, think it was on Reddit, anyway here it is.

..I wanted to kick off the 2nd season with the flashback episode Sam describes, which would have followed a squad of Army Rangers getting trapped in the city and trying to survive as Atlanta falls.

The idea was to do this with a very focused “you are there” documentary feel. Not going all shaky-cam, but still making it a bit rawer and grainier than the rest of the show. We’d start with a squad of maybe seven or eight soldiers being dropped into the city by chopper. They have map coordinates they need to get to; they’ve been told to report to a certain place to provide reinforcement. It’s not a special mission, it’s basically a housekeeping measure putting more boots on the ground to reinforce key intersections and installations throughout the city. And we follow this group from the moment the copter sets them down. All they have to do is travel maybe a dozen blocks, a simple journey, but what starts as a no-brainer scenario goes from “the city is being secured” to “holy ****, we’ve lost control, the world is ending.” Our squad gets blocked at every turn and are soon just trying to survive. I wanted to do a really tense, character-driven ensemble story as communications break down, supply lines are lost, escape routes are cut off, morale falls apart, leadership unravels, mutinies heat up, etc. (Yes, this approach owes a spiritual debt to a number of great films, including Walter Hill’s Southern Comfort.)

Along the way, I thought we could briefly dovetail this story with a few established characters from the show. Not to overdo that, mind you, because it could get silly and too coincidental if you load too much into that idea. But I thought it would be great to veer off on a quick narrative detour that brushes our soldiers briefly up against some people we know. Picture our squad arriving at a manned barricade where some civilians are being held back from leaving the city on shoot-to-kill orders to stop the spread of contagion, it’s a panicked high-intensity scene, and in this crowd of desperate people we find Andrea and Amy. The barricade gunners panic, the civilians start to get mowed down by machine gun fire, and in this melee the girls get pulled to safety by some old guy they don’t even know. It’s Dale. He’s nobody to them, just some guy who saw the opportunity to do the right thing and reacted in the moment. This would have been perhaps a minute or two of the episode, just a cool detour like the various outposts the soldiers encounter in Saving Private Ryan, but we would have witnessed the moment that Dale meets Andrea and Amy, seen where that relationship began. I also felt it would be a great way to get Emma Bell back into the series for a moment, because she was so wonderful and we were all so sorry that her character died and she had to leave the show. (Of course if this “brush with established characters” idea didn’t work in the script stage, I’d have tossed it out. You try a lot of ideas like that as you go, see how they play. But I thought this one stood a pretty good chance of being engineered to work well.)

So the story follows these soldiers through hell as the city falls apart and the squad implodes, with Sam’s soldier being the main character and the moral center of the group. He becomes the last survivor of the squad, and he finally gets to the map coordinates they’ve been trying to get to from the start: it’s the barricade at the Atlanta courthouse intersection from the pilot where Rick later finds the tank. The soldier is still alive when he gets there, but he’s been bitten. He’s accomplished his “simple” mission, but he’s gone through seven kinds of hell to do it (including being forced to frag his squad leader), and now he’s dying. And he crawls off into the tank just to get off the street and under cover. As his fever builds and the poor guy starts to hallucinate, he pulls his last grenade and considers ending his life. He sets the grenade down on that shelf for a moment to reflect on all the **** and misery that brought him to this sad end-point of his life, and to dredge up the courage to pull the pin...but before he can act, the fever burns him out and he dies.

The kicker comes in the last moments of this episode:

After the soldier dies this squalid, lonely death...and after a quiet lapse of time...we do a shot-for-shot reprise from the first episode of the first season: Rick comes scrambling into the tank to escape the horde...blows that zombie soldier’s brains out...now Rick’s trapped...fade out...the end.

The notion was to take the “throwaway” tank zombie Rick encountered in the pilot, and tell that soldier’s story. Make him the star of his own movie, follow his journey, but don’t reveal who he is until the end. The idea being that every zombie has a story, every undead extra was once a human being with a life of his/her own...was, in a sense, the star of his own life’s movie. And we’ve followed this one particular guy and seen how his life ended; we witness his struggles, see his good intentions and his failures, and we experience his godawful death in this tank. That’s why I cast Sam as that tank zombie in the first place instead of just casting some extra. I had this story in mind while filming the pilot, and I knew I’d need a superb actor to play that soldier when the time came.

And then starting with Episode 202, we’d be back with Rick’s group and back in step with the flow of the established story from last season.

I always had in mind to throw in a “wild-card” episode every season, maybe as a season opener or closer. Just a separate story more in the feel of an anthology series, one that appears completely off the track of the regular series but actually does wind up tying in somehow by the fade-out. They did that sort of thing on LOST on occasion, and I really respected it. It always seemed like a bold choice that trusted the audience and rewarded their loyalty with a totally unexpected surprise episode every so often.

That’s it from me. I hope things are well on your end.

Best,

Frank


So what do you guy's think?
 
^ That sounds like it would have been one helluva episode :) I like that idea... To bad it will never happen...
 
That story above is amazing. God dammit, if they had kept Frank on season 2 would've been amazing, but in my opinion it was painfully terrible. Cliched, predictable, slow-paced.
 
The entire farm plot line could have been 1-2 episodes tops. I loved the first season but the second season so far has drastically reduced my opinion of the show. I dont want to watch another soap opera, I'd much rather see a gritty survival show, it's not as though there wont be any drama in the apocalypse without going all days of our lives.
 
TheProcrastin8r
The entire farm plot line could have been 1-2 episodes tops. I loved the first season but the second season so far has drastically reduced my opinion of the show. I dont want to watch another soap opera, I'd much rather see a gritty survival show, it's not as though there wont be any drama in the apocalypse without going all days of our lives.

Na na na ya got it allll wrong. they spent more time developing charactors and relationships this season. not to be a soap opera, but to add value to each character so there is a real sence of loss when one of them becomes a zombie snack. love this show! i actually knee jerk flinched my leg when the redneck guy woke up to find that zombie chewing on his foot, gave me the f-n creeps, but what an adrenaline rush
 
I kind of agree with you. In the first season people were dropping like flies before you really knew anything about them so even though the group was upset about their death you didn't care that much because you knew nothing about them. Now that they've been fleshed out :sly: quite a bit it is definitely going to suck if something tragic happens to one of them. I mean come on, who wasn't torn up when Sophia stepped out of that barn?

With that being said though, the action shouldn't take a bench for basically half the season. Once they can keep a good balance of character development and zombie filled sequences I'll be happy.
 
The preview that was at the end of the episode before the mid season finale made it look like Rick turned into a zombie.

I hope not, they're far off the comics as it stands already.
 
slims
I kind of agree with you. In the first season people were dropping like flies before you really knew anything about them so even though the group was upset about their death you didn't care that much because you knew nothing about them. Now that they've been fleshed out :sly: quite a bit it is definitely going to suck if something tragic happens to one of them. I mean come on, who wasn't torn up when Sophia stepped out of that barn?

With that being said though, the action shouldn't take a bench for basically half the season. Once they can keep a good balance of character development and zombie filled sequences I'll be happy.

True. i was so gutwrenched to see her come out as a walker. i was the one in my house that kept saying, "no they'll find her okay!" crap...
 
If you care about quality tv than you like the second season. I hear so many people say second season sucked because there wasn't enough zombies and deaths. Why would they do that, what is the point of doing the exact thing that every single zombie show or movie does? Giving the characters more depth makes the show so much more than just zombies. It makes it an actual good show that just happens to have zombies. You get all the greatness of the high quality plot show and the excitement of crazy zombies. Can't complain about that.
 
Sooooo, I didn't get my homework done again. I love this show lol.

Our boy Rick was quite the shot at the end, eh? At first I was suspicious when those two guys walked in. Then I became hopeful when they were pouring drinks. That didn't last long. That guy talked too much. I'd have felt the same way as Rick in that situation and I figured something was gonna go down.
 
Keef
Sooooo, I didn't get my homework done again. I love this show lol.

Our boy Rick was quite the shot at the end, eh? At first I was suspicious when those two guys walked in. Then I became hopeful when they were pouring drinks. That didn't last long. That guy talked too much. I'd have felt the same way as Rick in that situation and I figured something was gonna go down.

Situations like that are so tricky because I'm sure you would want to help these strangers since you were a strange once. However you just screwed over Hershel's Life by him taking them in so bet thing to do is just not trust these guys. Idk why that guy went to shoot tho sure there is a million other farms around there he could use.
 
I knew it would end that way when the stranger guy starting getting pushy about going to the farm. It turned into a "me or him" situation. Though it was nice to get some insight into the outside world from those two guys.

How about Lori? Wonder how that's going to go down.
 
astrosdude91
I knew it would end that way when the stranger guy starting getting pushy about going to the farm. It turned into a "me or him" situation. Though it was nice to get some insight into the outside world from those two guys.

How about Lori? Wonder how that's going to go down.

They showed a zombie smashing his face into windshield so I'm guessing she gets attack next ep
 
This thing is a masterpiece. When I think they are out of things to do they just go ahead and prove me wrong. I mean, most of this episode we already saw before. Mourning the death of a loved one, questioning the world and if we should even bother living in it, rescuing someone, that's the kind of repetitiveness that will make the show stale and fast.

But then we get that ending. I love the hypocrisy going on in it. When you're the one screwed up it's all "hey let's be friends" but when you're in a good situation and others want what you have, you just won't even want to share it with them. Typical human behavior. Them nailing it down like that makes this series so good. Look how many questions they raise. Those guys just want a nice place to live, they too have a group that went through hardships, they have been traveling the country in hope of finding refuge; in short they are Rick's group before it found that farm. Even so it's not as simple as "hey, come on in, let us join forces and live happily together". This series just proved how the joining of two groups bring great changes to both, and Rick just can't run the risk. Incredible how this series portray this so easily.
 
I love the way that they set up the bar interior like an old west saloon and given the fact that Rick carries his sidearm in an old west style holster, it was like a gun fight straight out of late 1800s America. :)

When they reshowed the scene on Talking Dead afterward, it was a beautiful draw and head shot to the first guy who went for his gun on the bar.

I have to agree, it was quite a revelation to see how this new world is taking shape. Uniting two groups of survivors against the zombie apocalypse is not as straight forward as one would think. Each group has to protect it's own interests and ensure it's own survival. The one guy came on in a sort of threatening manner that Rick and Hershel picked up on right away.

It was funny to see them loading the bodies of the dead zombies into the truck and later on the pile. You could tell the difference between the dummies and the actual human actors that were used. When it was a dummy, they would just toss it into the truck or on the pile. When it was a human actor, they would carefully walk the body over and place it down gently. ;)
 
I find it amazing that people can call the 2nd season anything but utter 🤬! The first half of season 2 is nothing but the same conversation going on and on. There's almost no character develoment, and what little there is, is for the worse. It's also filled with the dumbest decision making by the characters, in the history of movies/shows. And on top of that, there's the continuity problems.

Lets talk about the two most annoying characters, and their decisions.

Andrea: Talk about being an annoying pestilens and liability. For two seasons she never does anything usefull, and constantly risks the lives of the others. You can call Merle a liability all you want, but at least he would take down a good number of zombies, should need arise. Andrea on the other hand, would just scream and wave her arms in terror. Of course she loves being all gung ho, when there are no zombies around. ohh, and what a smart move to fire a rifle at one single walker. Aparently, they no longer have to worry about loud sounds. Continuity problem anyone!?!?!?

Another funny thing is how the walkers in the barn never react to any sound, unless it's right outside the barn. It's also quite funny how they aparently stop banging at the barn door after a while, even though they are aware of the food outside. I didn't think zombies had the capacity to simply give up.

Shane: Due to poor writing, he's basically 2 completely different characters, with no similarities between the two. Honestly, he'll be playing one character in one scene, and then be completely different in another. No fluid change what so ever. He's supposedly a trained cop, yet he doesn't know how to carry extra ammo with him, nor does he have the brain capacity to plan ahead. My favorite part is when he shoots the big guy for no reason at all. You're telling me that when the Walkers are a good distance away from them, he finds it neccesary to create bait by shooting another human being. Yet, when the Walkers are just a few feat away from them, he'll happily do his best to make sure they both make it out of there. It made no sense.

A characters that I usually liked was Daryl, but his character is just so friggin inconsistent after the 2nd episode in season 2. The viewer is led to believe that he has gone near insane, when he see's his dead brother, and ties ears around his neck. Yet, when he gets back to the group, he just chills, and completely forgets about it. He even decides not to beat the crap out of Andrea, after she shot him. Talk about being out of character.

I also can't help but be amused at how work is devided in the group. Basically. The guys do all the zombie killing, while the girls do the laundry and cooking. I'm actually surprised that no feminists have spoken out about this.

The ending of the first half of season 2, was just hilarious. I was laughing when the little girl was walking out of the barn. Really, I'm supposed to feel sorry for this idiot kid? The same kid that climbed out from under the car before checking if all the Walkers had passed? The girl that decided to run straight into the woods, rather than a half circle that would get her out on the highway again?

Other utterly stupid things would be sending someone down a well, without stress testing the thing that is going to hold the weight. And making love in a town that could have dozens of zombies, probably isn't the best idea either.

The entire first half could have been fitted into 1 and a half episode. Then they could've gotten back onto the road like they should. While there's no need to have action in every single spisode, it's generally speaking, smart to not bore the viewer to death, with the same lines of dialogue, over and over again.
 
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