Three Hundred Miles Per Hour

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Opendriver? I'm sorry to say this but you have been ursurped. The new No-Nos record tommorow (when I get the vid up) will be 319.38 MPH, courtesy of the second-hand mary car.
 
new car, new speed.
mercedes sauber c9: 325.16
only third place but i don't mind.
DE question for you: how difficult would it be to change the 300list into some sort of little database, where you can search the cars and speeds you're looking for? alternatively maybe you could make second lists sorted not by speed but by car. you might steal flatout's leaderboard setup to make it easier.
 

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ToyThom
I got 297mph with My Supra RZ :D A street car
Well...check my signature for the 300 mph leaderboard, and you´ll find several Supras above 300 mph!

There is more in the car! Go get it!

Oh, and welcome to the speedfreaks of GTP!
 
Bigracer
...DE question for you: how difficult would it be to change the 300list into some sort of little database, where you can search the cars and speeds you're looking for?
I was thinking along these line earlier today also, Ideally people would have accounts, and they could select a car from a list, enter a speed and upload thier evidence. Later a mod could verify the speed, and it would be added to the list. It would be pretty straight foward to make it searchable by car, driver, get the fastest speed of each car, list only NN or road car records etc...

In other news I've raised my Toyota 88C-V speed up to 364.33mph [video], and my Pescarolo up to 345.05mph [screen].

Raises each of them up a few places in the overall standing, and takes me very close to the individual car records, especially on the Pescarolo. I've got a Supra RZ on the go now too, to please Leonidae 👍. Currently I'm up at 299.17mph, so almost there. :)
 
Bigracer
new car, new speed.
mercedes sauber c9: 325.16
only third place but i don't mind.
DE question for you: how difficult would it be to change the 300list into some sort of little database, where you can search the cars and speeds you're looking for? alternatively maybe you could make second lists sorted not by speed but by car. you might steal flatout's leaderboard setup to make it easier.


If you want to find a specific car or driver, press ctrl+f then type what you want to find e.g Sauber then teh word Sauber will be highlighted
 
FormulaGT
(now where's DE got to...)
He says, two hours after I posted :lol: Seems I've left you a bit too long, though, sorry about that guys. Just been a bit busy.

Leonidae
I have a solution for bouncing: don't use race cars. :lol: :sly: real topspeed chasers use Roacars, because there's more challenge in them.:D
:lol: He speaks the truth! But try telling me our 300mph GT-Rs don't bounce at all, eh? :sly:

Daan
I'm curious. What is the lowest powered car to reach 300mph, and how much did it have?
Ehm... I'm not actually certain, to be honest. It's not a very commonly posted thing, but unless my memory has omitted a very low-powered car then it is the newly entered Mitsubishi FTO SuperTourer.

MasterStorm
I reckon if I can stop the thing bouncing and just stay 'up' in the air (albeit with grounded wheels), then I may be able to garner a few more mph.
You're absolutely spot-on with that. You seem to be extremely well-informed for a new driver! You really know what you're doing, and how to improve, and so on, very well. That happens to all race cars, although I will add that my R8 is doing about 305mph at the corner exit (going on to reach 351.17mph). Keep on going, you've 'got potential'! 👍 :)

I've not ignored everyone's posts, but they don't all need my input :)

Well done to all those who posted new or improved speeds, particularly I-Runner's Cien taking the record for that car! Downloading MasterStorm's video now...

how difficult would it be to change the 300list into some sort of little database, where you can search the cars and speeds you're looking for?
Well, my version of the leaderboard running from my computer does function like a database, but it's not possible to upload that for everyone's use.
MasterStorm's idea (Post #3248) is a good one, but would be pretty tough to program and would actually totally negate this thread - and we don't want that! It's a good concept, but I think it'd make things too impersonal.

*falls into black hole of speeds requiring updates*

DE
 
I'm thinking that now I know I have the ability to make videos, I'm probably going to go after the overall record.
Hell, I am.
Road car is stalling because the 3000GT is being stubborn.
 
Dark Elite
You're absolutely spot-on with that. You seem to be extremely well-informed for a new driver! You really know what you're doing, and how to improve, and so on, very well. That happens to all race cars, although I will add that my R8 is doing about 305mph at the corner exit (going on to reach 351.17mph). Keep on going, you've 'got potential'! 👍 :)
Thanks. I'm not really that new to Gran Turismo, just new to the forums. I hope I can continue to keep improving my speeds, and I'm gonna take a try at the drifting in the other forums, as it not somthing I've ever tuned for and it looks fun!

I think the exit speed on your R8 is higher because the NOS on it lasts longer, and thus you kick it in much earlier (I don't know the R8 well enough to verify). For example, on my 88C-V I dont NOS until the start of the tunnel, but with my Pescarolo I'm on it before the corner ends. Subsequently I'm exiting at around 302mph with the Pescarolo, yet the final speed is less.

I managed to raise my 88C-V speed today by changing how the bounce is behaving; now it bounces more slowly the faster the speed so I get good performance at the top end. I need to play around with things such as camber(0,0 always...), tyre choice (I just use R5's usually) and NOS power (I always use full), as I reckon there may be ways to gain a few more mph with these. Definitely gonna try to take the Pescarolo record.

Dark Elite
Well, my version of the leaderboard running from my computer does function like a database, but it's not possible to upload that for everyone's use.
MasterStorm's idea (Post #3248) is a good one, but would be pretty tough to program and would actually totally negate this thread - and we don't want that! It's a good concept, but I think it'd make things too impersonal.
Could always just modify my idea to remove the submitting part, and just have one or two people who can verify records from here and add them into the DB. I can help host (and probably make it lol) if your hosting doesn't allow databases.
 
MasterStorm
I think the exit speed on your R8 is higher because the NOS on it last longer, and thus you kick it in much earlier (I don't know the R8 well enough to verify).
I meant before I hit the NOS ;)

I'm now commenting as I update the leaderboard... Nice job to Bigracer on all three speeds!

MasterStorm, that Pescarolo is pretty close to Toronado's hard-fought record - think you can take it? I'm just waiting to see if you can come up with another 360mph+ speed for us! Downloading 88C-V video now...

Toronado, that's a neat improvement for the old Gillet - I didn't realise it was so long ago that the original speed appeared! It gave you a lot of trouble back then, so I can only assume that those six months have taught you a bit :D

Now I fully expect to see a full-scale war for the no-NOs record to break out :p

Watched your 88C-V video, MasterStorm, and that's a legitimate run! Nice job! 👍
Me likey capture card videos :)

I'll have to go now, so Toronado I'm afraid your No-NOs record will be left in the in-tray for a few hours :guilty: I'll get right on that one, though!

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MasterStorm
I think the exit speed on your R8 is higher because the NOS on it last longer, and thus you kick it in much earlier (I don't know the R8 well enough to verify). For example, on my 88C-V I dont NOS until the start of the tunnel, but with my Pescarolo I'm on it before the corner ends. Subsequently I'm exiting at around 302mph with the Pescarolo, yet the final speed is less.
Ahhh, NOS timing. The essential thing with that is dependent on you car. If the car takes 50-shot like the Pescy '04 does, you want to start using it 3/4's to 7/8's through the turn. The Minolta (I believe) takes 70 shot. In that case, you want to start using it immediantly after the turn starts to straigthen out.
As such, cars with 70-shot are almost always faster than ones with 50, because they don't waste NOS in the turn. They also achieve greater turn exit speeds without NOS because of that.
In fact, 50 shot NOS ruins a couple of cars chances at getting 300, notably the three Ford GT's, the Saleen S7 and RUF CTR-2.

DE
MasterStorm, that Pescarolo is pretty close to Toronado's hard-fought record - think you can take it?
Never!!! Ha ha ha! I must commend MasterStorm, however, for beating my '03 Pesky record, as it seems to stop a bunch of would-be '04 drivers.
DE
Toronado, that's a neat improvement for the old Gillet - I didn't realise it was so long ago that the original speed appeared! It gave you a lot of trouble back then, so I can only assume that those six months have taught you a bit
Yes yes. The original 300MPH struggle. Back then truly innovative means had to be used in getting it near 300 (like custom tuned gears and LSD). Now it's little more than point-and-shoot.
 
Dark Elite
MasterStorm, that Pescarolo is pretty close to Toronado's hard-fought record - think you can take it? I'm just waiting to see if you can come up with another 360mph+ speed for us! Downloading 88C-V video now...
I already did... seems you mised my post a few above yours which has faster times for both the Pescarolo '04 and the 88C-V. Heres the links again.

Toyota 88C-V at 364.33mph [video], Pescarolo at 345.05mph [screen].

That 88C-V is SO CLOSE to wheeling. :eek: I had to check the vid several times after the run, freeze framing and such. Even got another person to check just to be sure. I definitely need to tame that front a little if I want to go even a smidgen faster. If I can do that, then I might try and break the 270 barrier. The new Pescarolo speed is just 0.37mph off the record, so the challenge is definitely on!

Dark Elite
Watched your 88C-V video, MasterStorm, and that's a legitimate run! Nice job! 👍
Me likey capture card videos :)
Thanks! They make it much clearer to see whats going on, which for runs like my 88C-V one above where its literally on the edge of doing a wheelie can be a real advantage.
 
the Grinch
The Minolta (I believe) takes 70 shot.
Yep, it does.

And I think you're quite right about the old-school tuning methods ;)

Sorry to miss your latest speeds, MasterStorm, you know I could swear I saw a 360+ speed posted somewhere but I couldn't for the life of me find it again! I'll check them over after Toronado's NN record :)

Watching vid (I love YouTube, totally instant playing for me!)... Yes, let's cane it on the start line (sensible start nonetheless) :p. The framerate on the camera you used makes us get a speed blur effect :cool:
Anyway, that run's fine. Nice job!

MasterStorm, you're right, that is very close to call... If you don't mind, I think it needs a little more checking. I've watched it plenty of times, but video quality isn't really enough to be sure... I assume you've saved the replay? If you have, could you please take some PhotoMode photos from the replay, along the back straight and at the point where the top speed was reached, paying particular attention to the front wheels? Just to make certain, you understand, I'm not doubting the legitimacy of the speed. Thanks 👍

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Dark Elite
MasterStorm, you're right, that is very close to call... If you don't mind, I think it needs a little more checking. I've watched it plenty of times, but video quality isn't really enough to be sure... I assume you've saved the replay? If you have, could you please take some PhotoMode photos from the replay, along the back straight and at the point where the top speed was reached, paying particular attention to the front wheels? Just to make certain, you understand, I'm not doubting the legitimacy of the speed. Thanks 👍
Ah great idea (about using PhotoMode on the replay), I had not thought about doing that. I'm pretty unsure about the legitmacy myself too, so if PhotoMode does show any liftage I will gladly have it disallowed. Thanks for the idea, I will definitely use it in future to avoid any false calls.

I'm off to take some pics now.


Ah... disallow my speed, for a brief moment down the back straight the front wheels lift by about a centimetre. I had to get a very low camera and zoom right in to see it, but it's definitely up. I kinda feel like a criminal now for posting up an invalid run. Hopefully it won't be held against me. :'(

Definitely going to push for a more stable 360+ run now. I definitely know I have the potential.

On a side note, is it a problem having to download my replays? You mentioned that you like YouTube as it starts up instantly for you. If you really want I can upload there instead (I don't know how to but meh).

Once again, thanks for the PhotoMode tip.
 
just dusted off the r8 from the garage and gave it a spin.
340.43 mph
its the fastest i've ever done ligit so i go to bed happy now.
goodnight
steven
 

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the Grinch
I was referring to revving the nuts off the car on the start line, then moving off in 2nd with no wheelspin :p ;)

MasterStorm
Ah... disallow my speed, for a brief moment down the back straight the front wheels lift by about a centimetre. I had to get a very low camera and zoom right in to see it, but it's definitely up. I kinda feel like a criminal now for posting up an invalid run. Hopefully it won't be held against me. :'(
Thanks. The PhotoMode cameras always show up the tiniest wheelie, that could easily be missed in normal replay, and thanks for checking it and being honest. Of course it won't be held against you, if you knew it was illegitimate, that might be held against you :p but this is fair enough. And I'm glad I was justified to ask for more! :)

MasterStorm
On a side note, is it a problem having to download my replays? You mentioned that you like YouTube as it starts up instantly for you. If you really want I can upload there instead (I don't know how to but meh).
Absolutely no problem at all downloading the files. It's a two-sided coin, as I like to have the videos on my hard drive for later review if needed (like with yours), but its convenient to run them straight away like on YouTube. To be honest, either way if just fine. :)

MasterStorm
Once again, thanks for the PhotoMode tip.
Just doin' my job ;) 👍

DE
 
Pescarolo '04 record is mine! - 346.17mph [screen] :D

That more than made up for the sadness caused by an earlier Pescarolo run... [screen]. If you can't beat em, join em heh!

I also have a 361.somthing run in the 88C-V, which looks lower in the replay, but I havn't checked PhotoMode yet. I increased the frontal downforce a notch, so hopefully it stayed down. I'll post vids and try to make a claim once PhotoMode is checked (assuming it's legal).

Might try for the Chaparral 2D record now. I'm up at 307.somthing already. Interestingly, I've got it to do 304mph in first gear. I can get a vid of that if people want. The No-NOS and 3 gears uniqueness of it makes it a good car for learning aerodynamics. I'd probably recommend it to people still chasing the 300mph.

My Supra RZ is now at 299.25mph, so getting oh so close. Not sure what to tweak next on it. :)
 
MasterStorm
That more than made up for the sadness caused by an earlier Pescarolo run... [screen]. If you can't beat em, join em heh!
:lol: Bad luck! Nice speed, though.

Hope to see a legit 360+ speed soon :)

Interesting you mention the Chaparral doing 300+ in first gear, that brings me on to ask how many gears your Pescarolo uses?

DE
 
I think r3erx's times should be deleted from the Leaderboard now he's banned an' all, but it's your choice :)
 
George Morley
I think r3erx's times should be deleted from the Leaderboard now he's banned an' all, but it's your choice :)

*raises hand* I second that!!:)
-Then I can change my sig!


btw MasterStorm, what mileage is you supra?
 
Dark Elite
:lol: Bad luck! Nice speed, though.
Just glad I was able to increase the speed a touch afterwards. :D

Dark Elite
Hope to see a legit 360+ speed soon :)
Will get back to you on that one. ;)

Dark Elite
Interesting you mention the Chaparral doing 300+ in first gear, that brings me on to ask how many gears your Pescarolo uses?
The Chaparral takes like 27 seconds to do the first 400 metres when it's geared like that heh. I'll get a vid clip shortly. It might only be 302 or 303 in the run, but thats still 300+.

I'm currently using all 6 on the Pescarolo. I've dont 344.9 or so using 5 gears though. I think they run as fast as each other in terms of gearing, but the suspension and tyre choice were better for the record run. I may go back and try 4 and 5 gear setups, maybe a 3 gear too.

My general view is that by using longer gearing, you lose a lot of distance early on travelling at low speeds until you reach the main torque band. You make up the difference though by not having to shift gear as much (shifting drops your acceleration, wastes a small bit of time and can drop your speed by 1/2 mph).

George Morley
I think r3erx's times should be deleted from the Leaderboard now he's banned an' all, but it's your choice :)
I don't know who they are or what they did, but if you mean banned from the forums, then no, because that doesn't affect the legitimacy of thier speeds. If you mean banned from the 300mph club (because of cheating or such) then of course they should be dropped. I think if they do get dropped, then the maximum overall speed record might get a bit of new challenge. Not least from myself. :D

opendriver19a
btw MasterStorm, what mileage is you supra?
I just loaded up and took a look, it's currently at 31875.1 miles. I have both the rollcage and body refresher program, so the mileage shouldn't matter? Any information would be appreciated in respect to that.
 
opendriver19a
*raises hand* I second that!!:)
-Then I can change my sig!

Of course, everyone wants to be the fastest driver in the world :lol:

I want to make a 400mph club to blow the socks of this one :)
 
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