Three Hundred Miles Per Hour

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Well, as far as I am aware, that particular skyline is susceptible to the same tuning trick as some other 4WD cars, such as the Tommy Kaira ZZII, Mitsubishi 3000GT and Mitsubishi FTO SuperTourer. With those cars, you can get some very large increases in speed if you nail the setup perfectly. Just remember when myself and I-Runner raised the Tommy Kaira ZZ-II record from 316.xxmph to 330.xxmph in a matter of days by finding the cars sweet spot.
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I know - four wheel drive cars always seem to be able to gain massive amounts by getting, as you say, the 'sweet spot'. I'll not go into the details of it, but you certainly know when you get there - and without it, that car has difficulty over 305mph. I should know! :lol: Given the amount of randomised settings we threw at the car to try and find a bit more speed, I'm not sure it gets much sweeter than it was when the current record was done :p

Ichi
Tune a car to the best speed will NEVER be simple to be explained with two or three rules. Gearing, Suspension, NoS, Tires, Spoilers, Downforce are extremely important, but as i have learned here, they aren´t everything. The way you shift up, start the NoS, and the way you go into the Test course do EXTREME differences. You need to tune it considering the way you are going to drive, and your way to tuning it´s only good to you driving-style.
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Listen to this guy... he has just summarised everything you should keep in mind when tuning, but without giving any 'operational details' - just how I like it ;) 👍

Viper
that was a nice and thrilling time MStorm, the battle between you and I-Runner
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Certainly was :)

If one more person comes in here without reading the first post, I'll... *makes a violent gesture in midair*

havicks29
Hey DE.... Is there a record that you know of for the fastest NON-turbo car? I didnt make 300mph, but I got really close and Im gonna keep tryin till I do in a Non-turbo car. (NO, Not supercharged either).. N/a VW W12 Nardo Concept... Let me know..
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No, there is not - because, apart from cars that cannot be turbo- or supercharged, it is next to impossible to ensure that the conditions for the record are met. There is a non-nitrous record, but all entries for this must be verified by video. If it's under 300mph, it's no good here :dopey:

I wonder what's causing this sudden burst of activity... Have you guys got nowhere else to go on a Saturday night? :dopey:
Anyway, nice work 05GT05 (although, try to avoid double-posting in future). The Leaderboard server is still useless, but I'll get your speeds into the database. By the way, your McLaren isn't the fastest - far from it! It's quicker than mine (which was the first to reach 300mph :sly: ) but MasterStorm has us pretty well beaten for now, with 308.85mph.

Maybe I should roll out my McLaren... :trouble:

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This is what happens when you drive a car you tuned over fourteen months ago... I took one test drive around the track in this thing, lamented the absolute awfulness of it all, then reversed a couple of settings and got an improvement. This is literally five minutes' worth, so expect more soon once I start to fine-tune the mess I've made :lol:
Maybe I'm coming back to tuning ;) this is my first speed in eight months! :dopey:
Oh, and my phone's autofocus seems to have failed spectacularly with this photo :boggled:


DE
 
Dark Elite
EDIT - OK, I can't see a hell of a lot in this video, not enough to be sure - can I have a second opinion from a 300mph Bentley driver on this one, please? Thanks.
DE
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To be frank, and no offense to the bearer of the video, the quality is crap.

Maybe a zoom shot of the front wheels past 350? That seems to make questionable speeds pretty clear....:dunce:

But for my ok, I'd need a shot of the wheels, or it's no go for the record.
Breaking 355 in the Bentley is incredibly hard without wheelie-ing...so's just to be safe. o_0

Oh & congrats to all the new guys.

And good luck with that blasted server, DE.
 
Cheers Crimson, you've erased the small doubt in my mind that I was being too harsh. Looks like we are going to have to ask for a higher-quality video, or failing that a replay that shows zooming on the front wheels at the maximum speed.

Thanks Viper :)

I think the server heard you, Crimson, it seems to be working.. Argh. The splash page for the member's sign-in opens, but that's all. Damn thing :dopey:

DE
 
Dark Elite
Cheers Crimson, you've erased the small doubt in my mind that I was being too harsh. Looks like we are going to have to ask for a higher-quality video, or failing that a replay that shows zooming on the front wheels at the maximum speed.

*schnipp*

DE
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A possible new form of verification: All speeds over 350mph must consist of a screenshot and a video replay, with footage of the front wheels at 350, and in increments of 5 mph until the end of the run......

Maybe?


And maybe the server needs some motivation. Maybe a sledgehammer or a drill....maybe some nippleclamps? j/k
 
You say you went 300 mph? :confused: I'd like to know which car you were using. I don't use mph, so converted, that's - wait! 480 km/h???[/
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How the heck did you get that? GameShark? Codebreaker?

Spill.
 
That's an idea, Crimson - but, a lot of speeds over 350mph are perfectly reasonable and a standard replay suffices, so long as the quality is good - I think it's always going to have to be on a speed-by-speed basis, don't you?

I shall leave the latest post to DA, I think...

DE
 
The second post above can and should be ignored, based on the sole fact that the poster did not even attempt to read any of the thread.
 
Dark Elite
That's an idea, Crimson - but, a lot of speeds over 350mph are perfectly reasonable and a standard replay suffices, so long as the quality is good - I think it's always going to have to be on a speed-by-speed basis, don't you?

I shall leave the latest post to DA, I think...

DE
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Good call and good call. 👍

Whatever happened to the Club 360 thing? It died before it started....to annex the top of the Leaderboard, and kinda useless. Sounded like a good idea at the time...💡

Oh, well.:indiff:
 
I left Club 360 open to you guys to talk over, it just... never got mentioned again... I can do it, no problem. I never did see any point in it, but I would do it if you wanted :p

DE
 
Dark Elite
I left Club 360 open to you guys to talk over, it just... never got mentioned again... I can do it, no problem. I never did see any point in it, but I would do it if you wanted :p

DE
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That's appreciated, bro, but not needed. I'll just sig it, and only a select few will know what it means....

Sort of an 'inside' thing. Well, maybe not a sig, but just an honorable mention....

Thanks anyways. 👍
 
I like your thinking :)

Mentioning your signature, it's getting harder to read by the day :lol: that font does not like being Size One! :dopey:

DE
 
i did some testing today with a car not on the leaderboard, but i'm stuck @ 294,xx mph...........maybe some improvements possible, maybe not! we'll see.....

viper
 
Escalade_dude
Psh, 282 pages?
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We don't expect you to read every post of course, but it does say in the very first post that cheat devices and the wheelie trick are strictly not allowed for 300mph Club runs. Thats why when you made you first post asking if we used GameShark/Codebreaker etc. you got the kind of response you did. Maybe it was a little hostile, but I guess a lot of the high speed tuners here are tired of constantly being accused of such unsporting methods. I hope you weren't offended. :)

All of the speeds on the leaderboard have been obtained by pure honest tuning. If you stick around, you'll soon pick up enough tips to be breaking 300mph yourself. Breaking records however, well... that takes a little more practice. I'll look forward to seeing your progress.

lazyslacker700
does setting the auto to 25 and lowering everything to minimum from 1st gear to final gear ratio help?
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In short, no. If you set the gearing excessively long, you won't have enough torque to accelerate in the higher gears. Even if you can still accelerate in the high gears, you will have lowered the acceleration of the car so much that you wont reach the top end of the cars ability before the end of the second straight. Essentially, your gearing should be a trade off of both acceleration and maximum speed in order to achieve to best possible speed before the end of the run.
 
Make that thrice agreed.

Gearing is by far the most sensitive setting aspect for 300mph runs - it is extremely precise, and utterly unique to every car. It's never, ever perfect either.

DE
 
lazyslacker700
hmm....well for me its pretty simple. i have a minolta toyota.
ride height: front max/ rear lowest
final gear ratio: lowest
nos: max power
downforce: front minimum/rear max

thats all i did and i got 333 mph simple. i not much of a fine tuner but this only took a couple different try at the settings
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Hi :)
You are doing it right, for sure. Anyway, like you said, that is the "simple" way. With this you are able to take great speeds of most of the cars, without spending much time. But, if you want to challenge some experienced drivers / tunners, there are still more "tricks" to do, that will help you to get more and more speed of the car. And believe me, there are much more to consider :)

For me, if the max speed tuning on GT4 would be made of just max some settings and low others, it would be nothing but boring, as all the drivers were going to make the same settings in all the cars :D

Good luck in your runs, mate :)

Cheers

2078TM
Hey Ichi - good to see you back 👍
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Thankyou, 2078TM! Nice to see you here, too :D How you doing friend?
Hope to see some news from you soon :D

Dark Elite
Listen to this guy... he has just summarised everything you should keep in mind when tuning, but without giving any 'operational details' - just how I like it ;) 👍

DE
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Thankyou DE! ^^
I think that give the 'operation details' would be too.. easy :D
As i have learned much about GT4 like most of us, testing and testing and reading this thread (almost all pages i think), others can do it too :D.

Also, good job :D Keep up the good work friend :D

Cheers

Ps: I´m right now running around the Rx-8 cup. The old Rx-8 LM is already losing some power. I hope to have some news for you today :D
 
MasterStorm
In short, no. If you set the gearing excessively long, you won't have enough torque to accelerate in the higher gears. Even if you can still accelerate in the high gears, you will have lowered the acceleration of the car so much that you wont reach the top end of the cars ability before the end of the second straight. Essentially, your gearing should be a trade off of both acceleration and maximum speed in order to achieve to best possible speed before the end of the run.
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yea i thought so because i tried doing similar things and it would take miles before i could make it to the top speed.

oh and ichi, yea i know theres a lot more stuff to it. but im just not up to the patience and challenge of fine tuning. good luck on ur runs tho.:)
 
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I was often against the flow as far as tyres are concerned.. But yes, it's undeniable that they do help your speed, mostly corner exit. I maintain that if the track was straight, however, Super Hards would be faster than Qualification rubber.

Now seems like an apt time to remind everyone of clause 2 of Rule #2 - At no point in your run must your car make contact with any barrier, visible or invisible.

DE
 
I am feeling really dumb I can not get a TVR speed 12 over 300mph. I am wondering if someone could give me a few tips. Also I am sure this has been covered but obviosly I have issues going through 282 pages so I someone for whatever reason would happen to know a page number could you direct me there.
 

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