Time Trial No. 53

[Denied]

Hi everyone. I am currently working on a tune for the Takata Dome NSX '03 for Motegi. Right now I'm at a 1:46.8 with no aids (including no ABS) with the DS3 and here's what I have so far:

It looks nice! Thx.
i got 1:47.730 after first 30 min, but i can be faster.
if u update tune - pls share it again

 

[SirAlanClive]

The 1:47.610 I ran was with the following changes:
RH: -6/-5
Toe: 0.00/-0.08
LSD: 9/11/6
BB: 8/9
Final: 3.200 (205mph/329kph)
Aero: 35/50
HP: 536

I was wondering why you had such a low final (high top speed). We don't get much over 270 kph on the longest straight if I remember rightly.

While I've got you here ....in the Academy TT, using the GT R 'Ring edition '12 or whatever it's called, I see that the power graph and the torque graph are quite separate. Max torque is at about 60% max. revs Should I be shifting up in the high torque band? (at relatively low revs). If you have the car would you take a look? I'll put my owned one on share if you don't have it. We can't see the set-up of the car in the TT, but I notice that the turbo meter drops at max revs, suggesting that it has a medium turbo (?). I read in the dealership that this car is not weight reduced and that the wings are not enlarged, making it slower in corners and faster at the 'top end'.

Ah forget it. We can't share DLC. I forgot.

 

[PR1VATEJ0KER]

Didn't it used to be true that dirty oil allowed higher HP at same PP and there was a net gain from it? But then again, I don't really know what I'm torquing about.

Its definately the case when de-tuning.
But here we are using the cars at near max performance,
an oil change for me gets 30hp more & its the only way to get extra power

 

[Polsixe]

The Madrid was farly easy to gold for a hack like me in the Lambo Super Veloce and GT-R black mask, just make it through the first chicane and avoid nicking the walls. Without SRF just tick up TCS and ABS a notch but these big cars on the comfort softs are ugly.

Motegi is a horrible course, flat straights with crap hairpins. Any GT500 seems to do 1:36s but I'll take the bronze and file this one. !

 

[JHKnight427]

anyone suggest a tune for v-spec 09 at madrid? got a 1:30.6 and i can find more time but some of it is my tune, need something better. any suggestions welcome. thank you

 

[SirAlanClive]

anyone suggest a tune for v-spec 09 at madrid? got a 1:30.6 and i can find more time but some of it is my tune, need something better. any suggestions welcome. thank you

I second this. Nightmare beast on CS. Managed gold in 5000th place or thereabouts but definitely not a satisfying drive. I imagine these tyres require the LSD to be adjusted....what do you say Mr. C9H13NO3? not to mention some serious suspension tweaks?
Max weight reduction.
Engine stage 2 + ecu
No turbo.
All the other bells and whistles.
All the (4 part) aero kit.
running at some 63.9%

 

[Czempion]

Hey. I used Adrelanine's tune for LOCTITE MUGEN NSX '01 and I did 1:46,7xx (actually #44, #2 in country). I modified only gearbox (gears from that site was too short for LOCTITE), aero (15/39) and from modifications I installed: Turbo 3 lvl and Oil Change (594HP/9500 RPM, 484Nm/8000RPM). I tried to do some mixes with each other modifiacions like Engine tuning 3 lvl + no oil change etc... but I can't find perfect setup. I'm looking forward to look at doodle's prepared setup for his TAKATA (I don't have even TAKATA, only LOCTITE :/ )

Peace

 

[Borowillow]

Here is an early tune for the GTR Spec V it got me in the top 50 for a while

BHP 514
Weight 1562
PP 550
Ballast 200 position +30
Torque 40 60
Transmission
1st 4.035 2nd 2.959
3rd 2.426 4th 1.974
5th 1.634 6th 1.361
final gear 3.027
max speed 124 mph
max speed up top 160

suspension
40 -20
10.5 7.0
4 4
2 2
2 2

wheel alignment
2.0 1.5
+0.10 +0.10

LSD
5 5
30 30
5 5

Brakes
7 5

Hope this is useful let me know

 

[JHKnight427]

Here is an early tune for the GTR Spec V it got me in the top 50 for a while

BHP 514
Weight 1562
PP 550
Ballast 200 position +30
Torque 40 60
Transmission
1st 4.035 2nd 2.959
3rd 2.426 4th 1.974
5th 1.634 6th 1.361
final gear 3.027
max speed 124 mph
max speed up top 160

suspension
40 -20
15.5 10.8
6 4
4 4
4 4

wheel alignment
2.0 1.5
+0.10 +0.10

LSD
5 5
30 30
5 5

Brakes
7 5


Havnt messed with spring rate much but it got me 1.28.5
Hope this is useful let me know

Kind of changed your tranny settings, but this got me 1:29.8 and i know have a second more i could grab...currently 235...we'll see for how long. Thank you much

 

[Borowillow]

Kind of changed your tranny settings, but this got me 1:29.8 and i know have a second more i could grab...currently 235...we'll see for how long. Thank you much

have tweaked the suspension and have gone up to 42nd for now glad it helps

 

[metanol]

Here is an early tune for the GTR Spec V it got me in the top 50 for a while

BHP 514
Weight 1562
PP 550
Ballast 200 position +30
Torque 40 60
Transmission
1st 4.035 2nd 2.959
3rd 2.426 4th 1.974
5th 1.634 6th 1.361
final gear 3.027
max speed 124 mph
max speed up top 160

suspension
40 -20
10.5 7.0
4 4
2 2
2 2

wheel alignment
2.0 1.5
+0.10 +0.10

LSD
5 5
30 30
5 5

Brakes
7 5


Havnt messed with spring rate much but it got me 1.28.5
Hope this is useful let me know

Thanks. Helped me a lot.

 

[Doodle]

I noticed that with the changes I made, your LSD Accel becomes too high as well, and required me to drop it down a bit to avoid outside wheel spin. Curious if you tried any of the things I mentioned and how(if) they worked for you.

I tried some of your suggestions and I couldn't improve my time, even with ABS on 1. I guess it's a driving style thing.

 

[Dalone]

Very nice

PS: i have 3 settings on every car, try them

Currently using the Loctite but all 3 settings are the same. Maybe only the 1st setting comes with a loaner?

 

[DiersZee1]

Currently using the Loctite but all 3 settings are the same. Maybe only the 1st setting comes with a loaner?

Yes only 1 setting per borrow or gifted car. A, B & C will mirror each other and depends on what the gifter or loaner last left the sheet on.

 

[Dalone]

That being the case I'll re borrow it and see if there is any difference.

 

[sephia412]

Hi sirs and ladies, I'm using clueless tunes, my time is 1.28.2 but I think I can be faster, I lose almost half a second in the last corner, I do not know how to make the car skid.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6284004#post6284004

 

[BuckRidge]

AlllllllllrighT!!! Finally made it with a 1:48.923 using a controller.

Edit: Just finished Madrid with a 1:30.xx. Good enough for gold. Now back to Motigi in the Loctite NSX.

 

[krasch27]

Hi sirs and ladies, I'm using clueless tunes, my time is 1.28.2 but I think I can be faster, I lose almost half a second in the last corner, I do not know how to make the car skid.

Funny you say that... I just picked up 0.7 seconds by hand-braking in the final hairpin!

 

[Czempion]

Hi sirs and ladies, I'm using clueless tunes, my time is 1.28.2 but I think I can be faster, I lose almost half a second in the last corner, I do not know how to make the car skid.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6284004#post6284004

This setup looks nice, gonna to try it now


Btw. With AdrenaTune for TAKATA DOME NSX '03 I did 1:46,300, so I really recommend this setup but I had to do some changes, but only with aero. And I bought Turbo 3 lvl and I have dirty oil. No any balast. But still looking forward for doodle's setup, with his and Screp's setup I did my first TOP10

 

[sheene76]

Ok, well I'm down to 1:49.6 at 1403rd. I just keep losing time on turn 2, the exit I'm flat out & have no worries there, but trying to find a fast line into it is frustrating the hell out of me...practice, practice, practice I guess. Hats off & respect to the guys getting sub 1:46. Amazing to watch.

Edit: just Golded Madrid...hated every second of my 1:35.3...I really don't like Madrid Reverse. Got gold, nuff said.

 

[Stotty]

What a great Seaonal.... Motegi isn't a track I particualrly like, but the NSX is absolutely fabulous to drive there.

Had an hour last night and got a 1'46.6, and managed to sneak another 1.5 hours in today before the footy kicked off... 1'46.084, 19th in the Takata.

I can't share the tune as it's a borrowed car, but it's a pretty standard tune - there are no wierd/extreme settings that somehow give it a big advantage.

 

[Muaythai]

Hey everyone!
Thanks a lot to Adrenalines tune, its a great tune!
I tried both cars at TT #53 Twin Ring Motegi. I can't feel any difference in driving with exact same tune and settings with G27 steering wheel. My time for Honda Takata Dome NSX '03 1:48'442. Honda Loctite Mugen NSX '01 1:48'001. I've been experimenting with the LSD and Aero settings after. That's why there is .5 sec difference fo my best lap, so far... I know, it can be faster with perfect lap!

By the way... Just to make correct 'bout the "speed" term MPH, "KPH" it should be KMH or KM/H "kilometer per hour".

Thanks a lot for sharing good reading and useful info in the forum!!!

My player id: Muaythai-70

My settings: Honda Loctite NSX'01 Motegi 1:48'001. LSD:9-11-9, AERO:30-55, TURBO: Default, Max Power:538BHP with engine tune S3, Weight:1150kg, TRANSMISSION: Adrenalines tune from Dome '03 @ Final gear 3130rpm. Suspension: Adrenalines tune used from Dome '03.

Happy Racing!!!

 

[DTM]

What a great Seaonal.... Motegi isn't a track I particualrly like, but the NSX is absolutely fabulous to drive there.

Had an hour last night and got a 1'46.6, and managed to sneak another 1.5 hours in today before the footy kicked off... 1'46.084, 19th in the Takata.

I can't share the tune as it's a borrowed car, but it's a pretty standard tune - there are no wierd/extreme settings that somehow give it a big advantage.

Me like too Starting to like Motegi more and more.

Really great to achieve that lap time in only 2,5 hour 👍 Wish i could do that

But i'm glad i closed the gap to you with 46.225, 25th atm. But there ain't much left for me. Really struggling in that last chicane. If i can reach the 45 i would be more than happy.

 

[SirAlanClive]

Hey everyone! ...
By the way... Just to make correct 'bout the "speed" term MPH, "KPH" it should be KMH or KM/H "kilometer per hour"....

Careful with the corrections. I'm a pathological pedant:

From Wikipedia:

Abbreviation development
The use of abbreviations dates back to antiquity, but abbreviations for "kilometres per hour" did not appear in the English language until the late nineteenth century.
Although the unit of length kilometre first made its appearance in English in 1810, the compound unit of speed "kilometers per hour" was in use in the US by 1866. "Kilometres per hour" did not begin to be abbreviated in print until many years later, with several different abbreviations existing near-contemporaneously.
1889: "k. p. h."
1895: "km:h"
1898: "km/h"
1899: "km./hr."
1911: "K.P.H."
1914 "km. hr."
1915: "km/hour"
1915: "km.-hr."
1916: "km. per hour"
1933: "KPH"
With no central authority to dictate the rules for abbreviations, various publishing houses have their own rules that dictate whether to use upper case letters, lower case letters, periods and so on, reflecting both changes in fashion and the image of the publishing house concerned, for example style guides of news organisations such as Reuters and The Guardian tend to use "kph" (along with "C" or "F" instead of "°C" or "°F" for temperature).
The SI explicitly states that unit symbols are not abbreviations and are to be written using a very specific set of rules. M. Danloux-Dumesnils provides the following justification for this distinction:
It has already been stated that, according to Maxwell, when we write down the result of a measurement, the numerical value multiplies the unit. Hence the name of the unit can be replaced by a kind of algebraic symbol, which is shorter and easier to use in formulae. This symbol is not merely an abbreviation but a symbol which, like chemical symbols, must be used in a precise and prescribed manner.
SI, and hence the use of "km/h" (or "km h−1" or "km·h−1") has now been adopted around the world in many areas related to health and safety and in legal metrology. It is also the preferred system of measure in academia and in education.

So, as a symbol, used in formulae, km/h is correct. As an abbreviation, kph is quite acceptable.

 

[matrimonio69]

aaaaaa!!!! Finally made the gold in the Lexus!!! Hard!!

 

[Muaythai]

Yes, Sorry! I maybe should explained, kmh or km/h is modern used speed term! Kph is a old "speed term", no longer used as speed term in modern am.english "american english" or en.english, au.english.
Countries who use km/h as speed term like "speedometer" in cars, in traffic etc, we use only km/h, but we understand also speed term kph.

 

[SirAlanClive]

Yes, Sorry! I maybe should explained, kmh or km/h is modern used term for speed! Kph is a old "speed term" for kilometer per hour. No longer used as speed term in modern am.english "american english" or eng.english.
:-)

Reuters and The Guardian tend to use "kph"

Well I personally think the Guardian and Reuters speak and to a certain extent help define modern English. Kmh is a unit of speed. Kph is an abbreviation for kilometers per hour. Imo kph is quite ok in a conversational sentence while kmh would be correct in a formula like 100 mph = 161 kmh.
English (as opposed to Norwegian for example, where every word in use is vetted by a committee), is a self-evolving language; the Oxford English Dictionary plays catch-up with the developments occurring on an almost daily basis. Google spell checker actually red-lines kmh and offers you km, kph, kWh and then km h in that order. In today's world Google is right.
As I said, I'm a pathological pedant. But I'll stop now even if you don't

 

[RobertM525]

These types of events are awesome for making me feel like I suck at this game.

I worked my ass off last night with Motor City Hami's Takata Dome NSX '06 tune (which is a massive improvement to what I had before) and got my time down to 1:54.598 for an impressive 29,729th place. (With TC 4, ABS 1, and Active Steering Strong (though that may not have been necessary) on a DS3.)

Maybe the car's not helping and if I had this '03 Takata Dome everyone seems to be using I'd be able to get my lap times down more, but I doubt it. (According to this, I'd have to reset my Used Car Dealership 660 times to get that car and I really don't have the patience for that. ) I can't imagine getting the Gold trophy on this event much less anything near the 1:45.222 Amo_Racing87 has in first place.

 

[Stotty]

Any standard NSX will work (Takata, Locktite, Raybrig etc) ... I think they are all very similar unless you have amazing skills and sensitivity.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Really cool event next week in the WRS TT's. We are actually using this event, but using either the Nissan Calsonic Skyline '00 or the Nissan Loctite Zexel GT-R '00 powered down to the 600PP mark. Guess you guys know what I'll be doing. Love those two cars.

Hope to see you there Stotty and the rest of you WRS members here. It'll be a fun week for sure.