Top Gear Written Review - C6 Z06

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A pagani zonda F has 650hp or something like that and yes the veyron is faster than the rest in a straight line around a track it woudlnt be so. It doesnt corner quite aswell in which brute power allows it run with the enzo and CGT.
 
And you know it wouldn't be faster round a trck because you must have driven it round a track yeah. My prediction for the Veyron is that it will cane the TopGear track and beat the Enzo and MC12. Sure it might not quite handle as well as the Enzo and MC12 but it's not a poor handling car, it's handles superb, and it'll make up what little difference in other aeras of the track, imo it'll be a faster car.. Since your talking track performance now and not straight line speed, the Sagaris is faster tha a Murcielago round a track, the Z06 is too, the Z06 is faster than most "supercars" round tracks it's been tested at, so surely they must be a supercars.
 
Im a personal fan of the Trans Am ram-air hood--they could try that--or a cowl hood, there's many options for hood scoops that don't look like drag hoods...the back end IS similar to a c5, but definetly different...notice the side of the car has Extremly similar curves around the brake vents & so forth as well, but if you think it looks completley different, well, your entitled to your opinion--as for me, it's indisputably close to a new Viper
 
why are we listing Gallardo's instead of Murcielago's? & if we're listing Z06's why not Vipers & Ford GT's? how about a Saleen S7?---That goes 220----Faster than most any production car ever built---McLaren,Enzo,Buggati,---I don't know about this Koes****** thing---I don't know much about the Sagaris--I don't think either will hit 220, but I havent heard much about them--o yeah, what about the Mercedes SLR?

I thought a supercar was a sports car with Extreme performance--which pretty much makes all of these Supercars. They'll all blow the doors off of a regular sports car--I also thought Sports cars were supposed to be light, but many a manufacture seem to think heavy is cool
 
LeadSlead#2
here's the chevy fan-boy!

Am I the only one who's seen a new Vette on the road & thought it was a Viper at first?
really, it's good for Chevy to finally get rid of those un-aerodynamic pop-ups, but D@mn, they ripped off the new Vipers---they even almost replicated the hood scoop! I mean, performance wise, the Z06 will beat most everything built today, but get your own design for Christ's sake!
Actually, I thought they ripped off the 612 Scaglietti, or, even better, the 575M Maranello with the front end (not to mention the 550 Maranello and Mazda RX-7 it was already ripping off with the C5). I never understood why people say it looked like a Viper.
Young_Warrior
Oh and one important thing is that with supercars before they are made, the company usually says right lets build a supercar and they do. 911GT2 Gallardo z06 and sagaris were never built like that. All excepot the gallardo are just hopped up sports cars.Super sports cars.

If the Z06 is a supercar then the EVO FQ400 is a supercar and we all know that this cant be true.
Because everyone knows that just because a car can smoke a Lambo Gallardo it's not a supercar (also, I wouldn't exactly call a Gallardo a supercar anyways, it's really just a hopped up Audi. A 15 year old Corvette ZR-1 is more "super" than a Gallardo.) because it is cheap.
Also, would this only be a "super sports" car?
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I mean, it even says SuperSport.
LeadSlead#2
why are we listing Gallardo's instead of Murcielago's? & if we're listing Z06's why not Vipers & Ford GT's? how about a Saleen S7?---That goes 220----Faster than most any production car ever built---McLaren,Enzo,Buggati,---I don't know about this Koes****** thing---I don't know much about the Sagaris--I don't think either will hit 220, but I havent heard much about them--o yeah, what about the Mercedes SLR?
In al honesty, the Ford GT is actually faster than the Saleen S7 (most definately not the twin-turbo, but faster than the old 550 BHP one) in top speed. I don't think the Sagaris can hit 220, but I believe all of the Koigniseggs can, as can every other car mentioned but the Vette, Viper and possibly the SLR.
 
the Ford GT is quicker to 100---MAYBE than the Saleen S7--Faster? ha! you're kidding right? the GT can only hit what, 205? The carrera hits 207, the Enzo 221, The Murcielago hits 205,the SLR got 208, & the Vette & Viper(hard top) havent been tested flat-out yet that I've heard, (maybe Top-Gear did, but I havent heard what either got for top speed) The Zonda isnt supposed to hit 220--I believe it runs out of gear....The GT2 gets about 211,so no, most of these cars can't really go faster than the Saleen S7---The fastest Production car with a Ford Motor built--ever

I don't know who told you a 550HP 3500 lb GT is faster than a 550HP 2700LB S7----but they lied to you
 
LeadSlead#2
the Ford GT is quicker to 100---MAYBE than the Saleen S7--Faster? ha! you're kidding right? the GT can only hit what, 205? The carrera hits 207, the Enzo 221, The Murcielago hits 205,the SLR got 208, & the Vette & Viper(hard top) havent been tested flat-out yet that I've heard, (maybe Top-Gear did, but I havent heard what either got for top speed) The Zonda isnt supposed to hit 220--I believe it runs out of gear....The GT2 gets about 211,so no, most of these cars can't really go faster than the Saleen S7---The fastest Production car with a Ford Motor built--ever

I don't know who told you a 550HP 3500 lb GT is faster than a 550HP 2700LB S7----but they lied to you
The people who told me how many pounds of downforce the Saleen has at 100 MPH that the torquier and lower to the ground Ford GT does not have. I also believe that the SLR is supposedly capable of 220 if the track is long enough, as is the Ford GT. You may be right about the Zonda (unless it's the Zonda F), and the GT2 I believe is track limited as well.
 
ummmm, I got those figures from a test done on Nardo--a 7-mile oval track in Italy...& when you speak of downforce on the Saleen, are you sure you didnt hear that about the Race Car?(a few years ago motor trend did a comparo road car to race car) & spoke of that downforce---driving up-side down & all--for the race car. -- however the SLR did stop at 208 & if I can find the mag, I'll see what the GT got
 
live4speed
And you know it wouldn't be faster round a trck because you must have driven it round a track yeah. My prediction for the Veyron is that it will cane the TopGear track and beat the Enzo and MC12. Sure it might not quite handle as well as the Enzo and MC12 but it's not a poor handling car, it's handles superb, and it'll make up what little difference in other aeras of the track, imo it'll be a faster car.. Since your talking track performance now and not straight line speed, the Sagaris is faster tha a Murcielago round a track, the Z06 is too, the Z06 is faster than most "supercars" round tracks it's been tested at, so surely they must be a supercars.

Yeah but a ultima GTR is faster round a track than a murcelago aswell. Lets face it a ultima is a production car like the sagaris n z06 but its not a supercar in your books so the z06 and sagaris are not either.Ask the average man if a 500hp corvette or a sagaris is a supercar and he will say no. As we know its really fast in a straight line once the special key is used and you only have 100kg or downforce but thats no good around a track. You would lap fatser with having the less power setting with the higher downforce which reduces HP to something like 800 and its tires wouldnt be able to sustain going so fast around a track anyway therefore a enzo and cgt would keep up with it. Remember its the tires that are a limiting factor and the veyron is heavy. It might be a tad bit faster around a track in one lap but over a series of laps the advantage would diminish. The veyron wont lap the nurburing faster than a enzo or a CGT.
 
Tornado I never said the gallardo was a bloody supercar. Dont you guys read. The whole purpose of that post was showing you guys that a gallardo is not a supercar along with the z06 and sagaris and 911gt2
 
I think the main reason a lot of people seem to think the Viper and C6 look similar is because of the headlights; both cars' headlights are of the same type and are mounted in a very similar way. I don't think it's a complete match, though. I'll put it this way...the Corvette looks like it's grinning, while the Viper looks like it's scowling.

Y_W, you've done a great job of defining your idea of what a supercar is, but you have to realize that not everybody is going to agree with you on that, and they're not going to be wrong (or for that matter, right) because of it.
 
I just cant understand of people can put porshe 911 gt2 into the sme category as a porsche Carrera GT when one is supremly superior to the other in every way.
 
Well, it's not uncommon for people to use criteria other than performance in their definitions of a supercar. Looks might come into play, interior design...that sort of stuff.
 
Elegy
Well, it's not uncommon for people to use criteria other than performance in their definitions of a supercar. Looks might come into play, interior design...that sort of stuff.

Exacty and the 911 and z06 both lack the exterior looks and the sagaris and z06 both also lack interior looks.
 
Again, not everybody would agree. I also am not terribly keen on the 911 exterior, but I know many people who think it's very nice.
 
Elegy
Again, not everybody would agree. I also am not terribly keen on the 911 exterior, but I know many people who think it's very nice.

Dont get me wrong its nice. But its also very common and nothing supercar like anymore. When you see a true supercar your head will follow it and people will stop to stand and stare. Doesnt happen with 911 or the few vettes we do see over here. However with TVR's people do stand and stare.
 
Heck, out here in rural Ohio, people would probably stare at a 911 as well...I've lived here nearly all my life, and I haven't seen ONE on the road in person yet.
 
Young_Warrior
I just cant understand of people can put porshe 911 gt2 into the sme category as a porsche Carrera GT when one is supremly superior to the other in every way.
Compared to Mr. Averages car, the 911, Corvette Sagaris etc are all supercars. It's just that some are more super.

Young_Warrior
Exacty and the 911 and z06 both lack the exterior looks and the sagaris and z06 both also lack interior looks.

Debatably. I'd disagree on all counts.
 
sounds to me like somebody's confusing 'supercar' with Exotic
why is everybody so concerned with interior looks? anyone who sat in a Z06 probabley realizes that it looks pretty da#n race car-like---the 02's did anyway

I take it nobody in here realizes a Saleen S7 goes 220?
a 200HP increase via Twin-turbos will certainly put it over 225
 
svtsnake
the new s7 with twin turbos will pass 220, im thinking it can go 240mph at least.
2950lbs 750hp 700tq
I doubt it will hit 240mph simply because of it's shape, it has a high ammount of downforce, and at speeds of 220mph, it make a huge difference to how much faster you can go. 220mph, sure, 240, doubt it.
 
Young_Warrior
Yeah but a ultima GTR is faster round a track than a murcelago aswell. Lets face it a ultima is a production car like the sagaris n z06 but its not a supercar in your books so the z06 and sagaris are not either.
Wait, so after clearly explain why the Ultima is imo not firstly a supercar, you suddenly choose to ignor that explanation and say well if I think the Ultima isn't then thoes arn't either. Yes, the Sagaris and Z06 ARE supercars, the Ultima is too, but firstly it's a track day car, so thats the category it goes into. Like I said, it IS technically a supercar, but it's focus is on a single thing, and thats track performance, the Sagaris and Z06 have compromises to make them road usable, hence, they arn't track day cars, you can have a Limo, thats a supercar, cars can fit into more than one category, like the Ultima does. But it's main focus is track performance, they didn't bat an eyelid about road usage, so it's firstly a track day car.
 
dude, it already goes 220 550HP----lots of downforce? maybe. aerodynamic? yes.
which reminds me, the Buggati can go 233 in high-downforce mode---so it's still much faster than an Enzo--therefore would not suffer drastically beacuse of this on a race track
 
Young_Warrior
As we know its really fast in a straight line once the special key is used and you only have 100kg or downforce but thats no good around a track. You would lap fatser with having the less power setting with the higher downforce which reduces HP to something like 800 and its tires wouldnt be able to sustain going so fast around a track anyway therefore a enzo and cgt would keep up with it. Remember its the tires that are a limiting factor and the veyron is heavy. It might be a tad bit faster around a track in one lap but over a series of laps the advantage would diminish. The veyron wont lap the nurburing faster than a enzo or a CGT.
And you lack knowledge on the Veyron, it has over 1000bhp regardless of what setting you have it in. For track use you'd have it in handlin mode with the full downforce settings, and the tyres were built to sustain the car doing 250+mph, taking corners isn't a problem for them. The car handles well, as for the Veyron round the ring, I would think the advantage to the Veyron would be even greater at the ring than a track like the TopGear track since most of the ring is high speed. It should hammer the CGT, as for the Enzo, you'd do that much damage to the Enzo going round the ring no-one will run it there. You'd rip the front off and the underbody aerodynamics would get screwed in no time. Don't even try to say thats not true becuase the Enzo was taken to th ring, and they didn't lap it for thoes very reasons. Round the Ring the Veyron would go a hell of a lot faster than a CGT.

ultrabeat
Compared to Mr. Averages car, the 911, Corvette Sagaris etc are all supercars. It's just that some are more super.
And there we have the definition of a suoercar. Once again Young_Warrior, it's good that you can explain your opinion in so much depth, but thats all it is, your opinion. Try looking up the actual definitions of what super means in the context of supercar, it doesn't mean the best in the world, it means above average/more than average ect and it's not limited to performance either. Just because the Enzo is faster than a lot of other above average cars doesn't stop thoes other cars being supercars.
 
LeadSlead#2
dude, it already goes 220 550HP----lots of downforce? maybe. aerodynamic? yes.
which reminds me, the Buggati can go 233 in high-downforce mode---so it's still much faster than an Enzo--therefore would not suffer drastically beacuse of this on a race track
If you r replying to me, I already know the S7 does 220mph, which is why I said the twin turbo one surely can go over 220mph. It's aerodynamics probably won't allow it to hit 240 or more though. It produces too much drag. And your spot on about the Veyron, even with the added downfoce it can still hit 200mph faster than anything else stock.
 
thats pretty much what im sayin bout the bugatti
i'm sayin I dont know what the S7 will hit with 750hp.....but certainly more than 220...at Least 230...
 
A porsche 911 supercar. So let me get this straight my 17 year old friend is thinking of trading in his drop top e46 for a supercar and the countless drug dealers around my neighbor hood drive supercars aswell.

I will now go off on a limb here.

I the one and ony young Warrior predict that around a proper track that doesnt feature any overly long straights but instead combinations of high and low speed corners a Enzo and CGT will beat a veyron over 3 laps.
 
I predict your wrong, the few straights that are there will be won with the Veyron and all the high speed corners will be won by the Veyron, which leaves the low speed corners to the Enzo, you keep mentioning the Carrer GT with the Enzo, but it's not as fast as the Enzo round any track they have both been tested on, soisn't the CGT a class below making it gasp, not a supercar.

And yes, Porsche 911's are supercars. Some drug dealers may drive supercars I don't know many and the ones I do know I don't associate with, yes you can buy a supercar for very little cash, even TopGear ill show you how to have buy a good one for less than £10k in the new series airing next Sunday.
 
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