Toyota introduces the FT-1 available January 14th

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The hybrid system might change in the near future. Things evolve and change after time.
 
sumbrownkid
But yet Audi has shown has that with the added weight of the hybrid system, it managed to go faster at Le Mans with the e-tron quattro.
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*Palms forehead* Hybrid technology in racing is completely different from road use and you also forgot that there are different homologation rules for different types of power combinations. Plus when we are talking about these road cars we are seeing plug in hybrids, not anything like the energy recovery systems at Le Mans that are restricted heavily and don't contribute to the drive of the car all the time, as it isn't aloud to kick in until a certain speed that you won't be reaching driving around town. But again, energy recovery systems in racing are not plug-in hybrid systems on the road and the KER's systems aren't feasible for the road because they get too hot and catch fire if used non stop.
 
Even if the systems are different, the point remains. Hybrids are no slouches anymore. Batteries will get lighter, and other avenues for hybrid drivetrains will be found down the line. It's honestly picking up steam with the P1 and the La Ferrari, so the technology is not going to leave us any time soon. And that's great imo.
 
Amac500
I thought this Toyota would be the next Vision GT car for a month, now I'm curious to see when and where the next VGT car will be revealed, because we're suppose to be getting what? 26 or 27 of them over the next 11 months?
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Yeah their certainly not on pace at all, and the Red Bull got delayed until end of January... The lack of "community" features online is also weird. When you throw in the physics weirdness (like the TT guys jacking their front ends up) and the GT3 cars that spin out on demand as soon as you turn the wheel over 15 degrees it all seems like GT6 was rushed into production. I think GT5 took up alot of their work load right up until GT6 was "finished."

But anyways, the Toyota concept looks cool, I just wish we got an old Toyota F1 car like that car that never competed in the 2010 season... Since its not a "real" F1 car I dont see how it would be a licensing issue?
 
@sumbrownkid Do you see the difference?

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Amac500
I heard they are making 5 of the Mercedes Vision GT based off the chassis of an SLS AMG GT. And I don't think the rule is that they are suppose to be fictional, if I remember the wording was concept cars that could potentially see road use.
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Interesting.
I was under the impression that the VGT cars were supposed to be the road car equivalent of what the x201x cars were to racing cars.

Reading this however, you're right, basically concepts of the future:

Polyphony Digital Inc., creator of PlayStation®’s best-selling Gran Turismo® franchise, has announced a unique partnership with a number of leading automotive manufacturers, design houses and other leading global brands... will create concept models giving a unique insight into the future of the automotive sector.
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Amac500
@sumbrownkid Do you see the difference?

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Yeah I see it. And I mentioned even with a difference, the point remains. Hybrids can be quick if you do them right. I just don't get why people are still so put off with the technology if Ferrari and Mclaren are getting onboard. It's like the same reaction when paddle shifts started replacing the pure stick.
 
I hope this becomes the next gen Supra in the future!
 
@sumbrownkid And that's not to mention how irrelevant the systems on the P1 and 918 are because of how little the batteries hold, making them pretty much dead weight.
 
Amac500
I heard they are making 5 of the Mercedes Vision GT based off the chassis of an SLS AMG GT. And I don't think the rule is that they are suppose to be fictional, if I remember the wording was concept cars that could potentially see road use.
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I found an article that appears to somewhat confirm this.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/06/mercedes-amg-vision-gran-turismo-production-rebodied-sls/


Back on topic, I hope that Toyota will actually do something based of the FT-1 and not just leave it as a concept car only.
 
Amac500
@sumbrownkid And that's not to mention how irrelevant the systems on the P1 and 918 are because of how little the batteries hold, making them pretty much dead weight.
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The 918's two motors combined makes more than 270 horsepower. The P1's electric motor produces 176 horsepower. That's more than some econocars.

I won't call that dead weight.

This FT-1 is gonna be a hybrid. Calling it now.

For better or for worse...Well that's for us to decide.
 
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sumbrownkid
The P1's electric motor produces 176 horsepower. That's more than some econocars.

I won't call that dead weight.
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Your right, its not dead weight... for the 6.2 miles of charge it holds. :banghead:
 
cmbeal317
Looks like I'm a little late to the party, I saw a link on the last page to Autocar as well.
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Yeah I think Autocar is the one who broke that news first.
 
Amac500
Your right, its not dead weight... for the 6.2 miles of charge it holds. :banghead:
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Well that's why they gave the Mclaren and the Porsche 918 v8 engines to help on that front.:lol:

Speaking of engines, I doubt this car will come with the LFA's V10 if this car is ever put to production.
 
diegorborges
And to kill little animals (and small Daihatsus) on the road? (just kidding)

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I reckon the fans are like shredders that mince any kind of debri collected(like; birds,small animals,leaves,rubbish etc lmao) so as to not block airflow to radiators.:rolleyes:
 
Looks like we are in for a Doki Doki morning.

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sumbrownkid
Well that's why they gave the Mclaren and the Porsche 918 v8 engines to help on that front.:lol:

Speaking of engines, I doubt this car will come with the LFA's V10 if this car is ever put to production.
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Exactly, so most of the time the hybrid motor is a lot of dead weight that kills the cars power-to-weight ratio which is why those cars are disappointing because actual speed clearly wasn't the goal. And its not going to get an LFA engine or be a hybrid in production because Toyota said it would the $50-60,000 price range to compete with the likes of Corvette.
 
Would rather have this than the Ferrari F12. And I'm not joking when I say that. Absolutely astonishing. I just got my fingers crossed (rather hopelessly, I know) for some tuning options. And if it sounds as good as it looks? Icing on the cake for me.
 
Looks like a sure fire replacement for the Supra.
I mean,Toyota definitely needs a halo car for its brand(not mentioning the LFA as it's under the Lexus brand).
It looks like it's designed by the same people that made the GT86 as the overall bodyshape looks somewhat like it except it's longer and probably wider.
I guess you could even call it the GT86's big brother.
Engine wise,I reckon they'll stuff either a I6 twin turbo or V6 twin turbo for propulsion to keep weight down while extracting max power.
I doubt they'll slot in the LFA's V10 as that'll put it in direct competition to the LFA,and that IMO is not good business practice.
If Toyota do give this concept the green light,I hope the styling carries over as it looks wow crazy in the styling department.Something which Toyota needs to spruce up it's image as most(if not all) of their models to date are pretty dull (the GT86 being an exception).
 
NoBloodyName
Looks like a sure fire replacement for the Supra.
I mean,Toyota definitely needs a halo car for its brand(not mentioning the LFA as it's under the Lexus brand).
It looks like it's designed by the same people that made the GT86 as the overall bodyshape looks somewhat like it except it's longer and probably wider.
I guess you could even call it the GT86's big brother.
Engine wise,I reckon they'll stuff either a I6 twin turbo or V6 twin turbo for propulsion to keep weight down while extracting max power.
I doubt they'll slot in the LFA's V10 as that'll put it in direct competition to the LFA,and that IMO is not good business practice.
If Toyota do give this concept the green light,I hope the styling carries over as it looks wow crazy in the styling department.Something which Toyota needs to spruce up it's image as most(if not all) of their models to date are pretty dull (the GT86 being an exception).
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The LFA is out of production now, so it very well could be a full blown supercar. I kinda hope it is, but also hope it isn't.
 
I dislike hybrids because:
1. Almost all affordable hybrids are hideous (Like the Prius. Sorry if you disagree, but it, to me, is one of the most laughable and down right ugliest cars ever made.)
2. Almost all affordable hybrids are quite slow. At least the people on the interstates that I've seen are.
3. No engine note. Again, pretty much all hybrids have little to no engine note. Not including the super expensive ones that are actually nice.

I'm not thinking about them money wise. I'd honestly rather have a piece of crap real car than a hybrid.

The ONLY Prius I'd want to drive is the LB Performance one.
 
p3bucky
I dislike hybrids because:
1. Almost all affordable hybrids are hideous (Like the Prius. Sorry if you disagree, but it, to me, is one of the most laughable and down right ugliest cars ever made.)
2. Almost all affordable hybrids are quite slow. At least the people on the interstates that I've seen are.
3. No engine note. Again, pretty much all hybrids have little to no engine note. Not including the super expensive ones that are actually nice.

I'm not thinking about them money wise. I'd honestly rather have a piece of crap real car than a hybrid.

The ONLY Prius I'd want to drive is the LB Performance one.
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Hybrids are the future, agree or disagree, in 20years time most of the cars will be hybrids, if not all.

But i do agree with everything you said, just saying that the hybrids will get better...we hope!
 
Shirrako
Hybrids are the future, agree or disagree, in 20years time most of the cars will be hybrids, if not all.

But i do agree with everything you said, just saying that the hybrids will get better...we hope!
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Hybrids can be the future IF someone can come up with a method to reduce the battery size as weight is the enemy.
 
I actually kind of hate it. The styling is horrid, and it will more than likely be hybrid. I bet it never makes production with how insane the body lines are, that would be way too expensive to mass produce.
 
NoBloodyName
Hybrids can be the future IF someone can come up with a method to reduce the battery size as weight is the enemy.
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They have, but it will be a while before it's affordable.
 
NoBloodyName
Hybrids can be the future IF someone can come up with a method to reduce the battery size as weight is the enemy.
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The battery is a huge issue for the whole world, not just on hybrid cars, it's also a huge problem for phones/tablets etc.

I heard about a technology called "super diamond" which would give infintie battery life to devices, don't know what happened with that technology, you can look it up, i do agree with you in 100% though.
 
Anyone know the specs or any guesses? Maybe 320 HP, 2900 LB?
 
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