Anderton PrimeThe friend I watched it with thought the lesbian girl who wrote her story on the toilet paper scenes were unnecessary. I disagree. They do a lot to help Evey transform her views and realize her true self.
I saw a couple of two-star reviews but when I see that it usually means I will like it and the story will keep me awake, unless it is a romantic comedy which is always guaranteed two-stars at the best.VashTheStampedeI don't think I've actually heard anyone say they didn't like the movie.
I bought it the day it was out on DVD, and I've watched it three times since then. Although I do not necessiarily prescribe to the radical revolutionary undertones of the film/GN, I do take the message of the story to heart.
...All I ask of the people who view it not to confuse it with an anti-Bush/Blair film given the context of the current times in which the film was released, but as an overall warning of what can happen when people become desperate for protection at the cost of power.
I've so often had to remind people that the GN was written in the early '80s that it makes me sick, much less that the screenplay itself wasn't written untill the mid '90s. Although the GN was certainly was ahead of it's time in art and storytelling, it's dystopian depiction of a nuclear-war that destroys much of civilization was lost in translation in the film, hence the reasons as to why so many people believe it to be an anti-Bush/Blair film.
...Either way, no matter what side you are on, it was a great movie overall.
"Remember remember the fifth of November,
Gunpower treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder treason,
Should ever be forgot..."
I can see how people could easily see it as anti-Bush, but when you look at it in the context of the time period that the story was written it is an alternative end to the Cold War where things don't end so quietly and those in the middle have to go to extremes to "protect" themselves in a world gone mad. At most it would be anti-Reagan.I felt a bit of Anti-Bush in there as well. While I am anti-terrorists(in a way, Pro-Bush, I suppose), I was not offended by this film.
I felt only a "bit" of it. Also, I realize that it was originally written long before the George W. Bush Era, but you are not that far off when you say: Current Hollywood=Anti-Bush. I felt that when they filmed this, they were also thinking about Bush Administration.I can see how people could easily see it as anti-Bush, but when you look at it in the context of the time period that the story was written it is an alternative end to the Cold War where things don't end so quietly and those in the middle have to go to extremes to "protect" themselves in a world gone mad. At most it would be anti-Reagan.
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I've always taken the story more as of a warning of what could happen if we give up too many civil liberties in the persuit of "protection."
I'm not Anti-Bush, but I thought it had little bit of that in there. How about the wiretapping or Guantamano? Original story I guess was written before George W. Bush, so obviously the story had nothing to do with the President, but I'm pretty sure that the makers of the Hollywood movie version were very concious of Bush, when they made this movie. I don't think they made it into a Anti-Bush movie, however, but they did hint it.I totally support the war in Iraq, and I loved this movie - meaning it isn't anti-Bush (though anti-Bush folks would probably think it is).
I have no idea what you mean by 4 for 4(I actually doTop notch acting by Weaving and Portman. Fantastic dialogue, themes and plot. The W Brothers are 4 for 4 in my book.
I'm not Anti-Bush, but I thought it had little bit of that in there. How about the wiretapping or Guantamano? Original story I guess was written before George W. Bush, so obviously the story had nothing to do with the President, but I'm pretty sure that the makers of the Hollywood movie version were very concious of Bush, when they made this movie. I don't think they made it into a Anti-Bush movie, however, but they did hint it.
a6m5P.S. Did you realize that Wachowski Brothers didn't actually direct this film?
Yeah, you are right. And I did respect them for not turning this film into an Anti-Bush propaganda. It's just amazing how the Anti-Bush crowd criticize Bush for every decision he makes. I don't even like Bush anymore, but I still am amazed by how these people think Clinton was Jesus or something, and Bush the opposite. Talk about being blinded by hate. 👎They hinted at wiretapping and guantanamo being issues that we should care about. But it didn't lay blame with Bush, it put the blame squarely where it belonged - with the people.
I believe so. How about their debut? That lesbian suspense flick. I thought that was pretty good(5 for 5?Produced Right?
That was a great line, though I forgot it. For the first part of the movie, I thought the "V" was played by Pierce Brosnan.My favorite line from the movie:
"An inch. It's small and it's fragile and it's the only thing in the world worth having. We must never lose it, or sell it, or give it away. We must never let them take it from us."
I tried to add it to me sig but it doesn't fit.
Yeah, you are right. And I did respect them for not turning this film into an Anti-Bush propaganda. It's just amazing how the Anti-Bush crowd criticize Bush for every decision he makes. I don't even like Bush anymore, but I still am amazed by how these people think Clinton was Jesus or something, and Bush the opposite. Talk about being blinded by hate. 👎
I just watched this again as we just got it on DVD. V does lay the blame squarely on the people. When he takes over the television network and puts on "V TV" his speech is about how the country had gotten to where it was because the people were afraid and allowed it to happen, but he forgave them as fear is a powerful motivator. And just as it was the people that allowed the country to get to where it was it would be the people that had to stand up and save the country.They hinted at wiretapping and guantanamo being issues that we should care about. But it didn't lay blame with Bush, it put the blame squarely where it belonged - with the people.
Yeah, you are right. And I did respect them for not turning this film into an Anti-Bush propaganda. It's just amazing how the Anti-Bush crowd criticize Bush for every decision he makes. I don't even like Bush anymore, but I still am amazed by how these people think Clinton was Jesus or something, and Bush the opposite. Talk about being blinded by hate. 👎
a6m5I believe so. How about their debut? That lesbian suspense flick. I thought that was pretty good(5 for 5?).
a6m5That was a great line, though I forgot it. For the first part of the movie, I thought the "V" was played by Pierce Brosnan.When did you figure it out?
As for anything anti-Bush, the most blame it ever lays on America or Bush is for the War on Terror spreading and setting up a situation that would allow Britain to become a facist regime. But it was Britain themselves that created the true fear by creating their own "terror attacks" in order to cause everyone to become scared enough to accept anything in the name of safety.
FKAs for my favorite line, I do love the one about giving the inch, but I felt that the entire message behind teh movie was delievered with, "The people should not be afraid of their government, rather governments should be afraid of the people." I'm sure I messed that up but I got the point. It says a lot about how "safety" has gone too far when your liberties are infringed upon and you become afraid of your government instead of the enemies of your country.
Are you referring to how the people reacted in the end? I think that was more symbolism than anything, especially when you see who some of the people are.Yup, I thought they did a good job there. However, I found the ending a bit unrealisitc. Considering the historical president for revolution, I'd have to say that it was quite glorified.
Are you referring to how the people reacted in the end? I think that was more symbolism than anything, especially when you see who some of the people are.