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Holden or Ford

  • Holden

    Votes: 209 36.2%
  • Ford

    Votes: 175 30.3%
  • Ford and Holden

    Votes: 64 11.1%
  • Nismo

    Votes: 74 12.8%
  • Erebus

    Votes: 7 1.2%
  • Nismo and Erebus

    Votes: 6 1.0%
  • Volvo

    Votes: 43 7.4%

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Murph is the best driver out there. Even with all of the bad luck at KRT he has been able to string up good results, but then again he could have some really bad ones. AVESCO always seems to pick on him. Because of that. He drives out of his skin to p!ss them off for once

It's a crappy Ford team.............
 
Well I'm not too sure if this is true or not, but I read that Ambrose decked Murphy earlier this week. I really can't see it happening (Murph wouldn't let that happen, Ambrose doesn't seem like he'd do that sorta thing) but if it's true, there should be some heavy penalities coming their way.
Kinda funny if it did happen tho.
 
Murphy was interviewed on RPM yesterday afternoon and there was nothing about anyone being decked. I highly doubt that something like this would escape the media if it did happen anyway. Where did you read this?
Jason Bright is driving for FPR next year with Greg Ritter. Ford will be helping Bright set up his own team in the Konica series which he hopes will step up into the main series in a few years.
 
:suckstobeBrighty: FPR has had almost all downs this season. He must be a little bit concerned? Murph is getting old now, for a race car driver, but I'll tell you. He's still got it. I'd laugh if Murph got decked, but straight away got up and knocked Ambrose, on his ass.
 
Murph is getting old now, for a race car driver, but I'll tell you. He's still got it.
No way! He has got plenty of time left.
Ambrose 28, Bright 31, Murphy 32, R Kelly 21, Ingall 40, S Richards 32, T Kelly 25, Bargwanna 32, Bowe 50, Tander 27, Johnson 30, Weel 25, Skaife 37, Seton 39, Winterbottom 23, J Richards 28, Jones 44, McConville 30, Morris 37, Tratt 39, Luff 28, Lowndes 30, Radisich 42, Dumbrell 22, Longhurst 47, Baird 34, Wills 28, Ellery 30, Wilson 32, Besnard 27.
:suckstobeBrighty: FPR has had almost all downs this season.
They have struggled to keep an engine together all year, but now they have Rob Benson building their engines and it was good enough for 2nd at Bathurst! And they didn't appear to be lacking in a straight line at Bathurst or the Gold Coast.
 
Well he's getting on anyway.

They were effing fast. If they didn't have to make so many stops, they would've won, But those extra stops being for oil. It's not exactly good. Lowndes was giving Murph a good hurry up on the Gold Coast too.
 
I read that rumor on a Ford site, obviously not true, just something they would have liked to believe I think.
 
Schrodes
They have struggled to keep an engine together all year, but now they have Rob Benson building their engines and it was good enough for 2nd at Bathurst! And they didn't appear to be lacking in a straight line at Bathurst or the Gold Coast.
They had I think it was 8 pit stops in total and quite a few was for oil stops. Still some engine issues that needs sorting.

But lately, I've been thinking that lowndes move to 888 was a mistake. Actually. I think making the decision to move so early on was a mistake (IMO). He should have considered FPR's performance at bathurst at the very least. I'm sure performance wasnt the only factor in choosing the team (apparently, the new team being in QLD near home was a big factor) but I think next season and the one after, FPR will be stronger than 888 due to the resources at FPR's disposel. They are pretty new and their first season was half decent. Ohwell, I hope he does well at 888. And seton at Shell aswell. Two drivers that definetly deserve a good set of results (among a few others, Murph included).


I just hope it wasnt a bad move for Lowndes.
 
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But lately, I've been thinking that lowndes move to 888 was a mistake.

I've been thinking the same thing as I was watching Bathurst and Surfers Paradice. Lowndes was really going well in those two races.
 
“It might look the same, but it sure doesn’t drive the same,” that was the verdict of Holden Racing Team’s Mark Skaife on the first test run of chassis #050 – a brand new race Commodore set to debut at Symmons Plains in Tasmania this weekend.

“It’s without doubt the best car I’ve ever driven straight out of the box,” Skaife said.

”We spent a day testing at Winton achieving consistently strong lap times with only minimum tweaking and adjusting – quite remarkable for a totally new race car. Everything felt just right.

“It’s our 2005 race package but we need to cover plenty of kilometres in the remaining couple of rounds this year so we can hit the ground running next season.

“I guess the biggest advance over our current cars is in body shell design to give us advances in safety and maximum torsional rigidity.”

Skaife said new cars usually were built specifically for the Bathurst 1000 but with that event now being part of the V8 Championship it was difficult to debut cars mid season.

“With the repair of crashed cars on the agenda, it’s taken us 12 weeks to complete #050 and huge amounts of man-hours, but it’s been well worth the effort to get something out of what has been a difficult year for us.

“Getting back to Tasmania on the weekend is great for the V8s and gives us a truly national championship for the first time since 1999,” Skaife reflected.

“HRT cracked it for a win last time there and would like to repeat the effort again.

“Expect the tightest qualifying grid for the year at Symmons on a track layout that looks simple but is more complicated than you think.

“It throws up great racing particularly around the notorious hairpin, which usually manages to provide grief for the unwary,” he said.

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Brave move debuting a car at Symmons Plains with all the confusion that will happen at turn two.
 
Rick Kelly has been fined $5000 and lost 50 points for the Bright incident at Surfers.
Todd Kelly has lost his points from the Surfers round after a hearing at Symmons Plains. HRT were charged with exactly the same offence SBR were charged with at the QLD Raceway round earlier in the year. Duck for cover HRT fans!
 
Ambrose has been fined $10,000 for the pitlane confrontation with R Kelly at Indy. The fine has been suspended until 31/12/2005.
Symmonds qualifying

Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY 4 4 0:52.2224
2 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VY 15 4 0:52.3551 0:00.1327
3 15 Kmart Racing Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VY 16 16 0:52.3858 0:00.1634
4 888 Team Betta Electrical Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA 16 16 0:52.4496 0:00.2272
5 11 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 15 13 0:52.4699 0:00.2475
6 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VY 18 17 0:52.4776 0:00.2552
7 50 PWR Performance Products Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY 15 12 0:52.4963 0:00.2739
8 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 13 11 0:52.5029 0:00.2805
9 6 Ford Performance Racing Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 17 13 0:52.5036 0:00.2812
10 51 Kmart Racing Team Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY 17 16 0:52.5635 0:00.3411
11 9 Caltex Havoline Race Team Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 20 11 0:52.6413 0:00.4189
12 5 Ford Performance Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA 20 10 0:52.6630 0:00.4406
13 18 Shell Helix Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA 19 17 0:52.6769 0:00.4545
14 44 Team Dynamik/dodo/Alphawest Simon Wills Holden Commodore VY 11 10 0:52.6813 0:00.4589
15 8 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VY 19 7 0:52.7379 0:00.5155
16 21 OzEmail Racing Team Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 19 16 0:52.7388 0:00.5164
17 20 Larkham Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 17 13 0:52.7660 0:00.5436
18 10 Larkham Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 17 15 0:52.7729 0:00.5505
19 17 Shell Helix Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 18 14 0:52.7963 0:00.5739
20 29 Sirromet - Life Style Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VY 17 17 0:52.8519 0:00.6295
21 88 Team Betta Electrical Paul Radisich Ford Falcon BA 18 12 0:52.8790 0:00.6566
22 31 Steve Ellery Racing Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 18 11 0:52.8955 0:00.6731
23 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VY 20 11 0:52.9076 0:00.6852
24 3 Tasman Motorsport Jason Richards Holden Commodore VY 18 15 0:52.9177 0:00.6953
25 23 WPS David Besnard Ford Falcon BA 17 15 0:52.9459 0:00.7235
26 16 PWR Performance Products Paul Weel Holden Commodore VY 19 16 0:52.9460 0:00.7236
27 45 Team Dynamik/dodo/Alphawest Dale Brede Holden Commodore VY 9 5 0:53.0258 0:00.8034
28 021 Team Kiwi Racing Craig Baird Holden Commodore VY 16 6 0:53.2328 0:01.0104
29 7 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Alex Davison Holden Commodore VX 18 16 0:53.3399 0:01.1175
30 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 20 4 0:53.3813 0:01.1589
31 12 OzEmail Racing Team John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 16 16 0:53.4590 0:01.2366
48 WPS Owen Kelly Ford Falcon BA

Shootout
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 11 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 1 1 0:52.9461
2 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY 1 1 0:52.9598 0:00.0137
3 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VY 1 1 0:52.9898 0:00.0437
4 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 1 1 0:53.1813 0:00.2352
5 15 Kmart Racing Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VY 1 1 0:53.2054 0:00.2593
6 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VY 1 1 0:53.2422 0:00.2961
7 6 Ford Performance Racing Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 1 1 0:53.4483 0:00.5022
8 51 Kmart Racing Team Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY 1 1 0:53.6866 0:00.7405
9 888 Team Betta Electrical Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA 1 1 0:54.3146 0:01.3685
EXC 50 PWR Performance Products Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY
 
I love that first sentence in your post. They should add a couple of extra zero's. He do what Tony Quinn did.... Pay the fine with $10000 in 5 cent coins.

Murph 8th!!! Here we go. Another **** weekend. I hope his luck (Not at Bathurst) changes, when he he makes the move. Cheers for getting that info up 👍
 
Race 1

Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Race Time Fastest Lap Fastest Time
1 15 Kmart Racing Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VY 42 38:16.1351 7 0:52.8146
2 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 42 38:18.4933 7 0:53.1446
3 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY 42 38:19.1027 10 0:52.8579
4 11 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 42 38:20.2925 9 0:52.9751
5 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VY 42 38:28.6963 9 0:52.8140
6 6 Ford Performance Racing Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 42 38:30.8919 12 0:53.0953
7 9 Caltex Havoline Race Team Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 42 38:32.4441 13 0:53.0748
8 23 WPS David Besnard Ford Falcon BA 42 38:37.2788 6 0:53.0955
9 88 Team Betta Electrical Paul Radisich Ford Falcon BA 42 38:37.9261 11 0:53.3556
10 50 PWR Performance Products Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY 42 38:38.5151 18 0:52.9826
11 51 Kmart Racing Team Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY 42 38:47.3050 9 0:53.2599
12 21 OzEmail Racing Team Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 42 38:50.9714 10 0:53.5773
13 17 Shell Helix Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 42 38:57.1289 11 0:53.6656
14 31 Steve Ellery Racing Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 42 38:57.4640 13 0:53.4781
15 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VY 42 38:59.6127 11 0:53.2463
16 18 Shell Helix Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA 42 39:02.0356 10 0:53.7263
17 12 OzEmail Racing Team John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 42 39:03.5588 15 0:53.7798
18 16 PWR Performance Products Paul Weel Holden Commodore VY 42 39:04.8948 9 0:53.4932
19 20 Larkham Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 42 39:05.1759 6 0:53.6423
20 7 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Alex Davison Holden Commodore VX 42 39:05.8345 10 0:53.7205
21 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 42 39:06.5610 15 0:53.6935
22 10 Larkham Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 42 39:08.8831 10 0:53.8244
23 48 WPS Owen Kelly Ford Falcon BA 41 38:25.5805 13 0:53.6474
24 8 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VY 41 38:33.1239 17 0:54.2995
25 3 Tasman Motorsport Jason Richards Holden Commodore VY 41 38:39.2189 14 0:53.8392
26 888 Team Betta Electrical Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA 41 38:45.4710 11 0:53.0387
27 021 Team Kiwi Racing Craig Baird Holden Commodore VY 41 38:51.6331 9 0:53.7785
28 5 Ford Performance Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA 41 39:10.3996 9 0:53.4377
DNF 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VY 36 33:04.0482 10 0:53.2303
DNF 45 Team Dynamik/dodo/Alphawest Dale Brede Holden Commodore VY 17 16:15.5801 8 0:53.6683
DNF 44 Team Dynamik/dodo/Alphawest Simon Wills Holden Commodore VY 11 10:14.1936 9 0:53.3855
DNF 29 Sirromet - Life Style Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VY
 
Awesome race. That was the first time I have seen the V8s race there and it was fantastic.
 
AMBROSE MUST BE GUTTED :lol:

I hope Murph can fight at Eastern Creek. Too bad Murph left it until the end of the season to fight.
 
All that happened today is that the inevitable has been delayed. Ambrose will still win the championship unfortunatley, only at Eastern Creek instead of Symmonds Plains.
Notice after one of the restarts when the order got stuffed up and Murphy was on the radio to his team telling them to get Skaife out of the way, a very similar situation to Surfers when he was having a go at Ambrose about the Ambrose/R.Kelly incident.
 
I sure hope not. Murph needs to win the championship atleast once :grumpy:

It was nowhere near the same. Rick was behind Ambrose. Skaife was ahead.
 
From CAMS
V8 Supercar Appeal Court increases penalties for Team Dynamik?s testing rule breaches
CAMS Press Release
19 Nov 2004

The V8 Supercar National Court of Appeal has increased the monetary penalties applied to Team Dynamik for testing rule breaches and also handed down additional ?on track? penalties to be applied at the final round of the 2004 V8 Supercar Championship Series at Eastern Creek and at the first round of the Championship in 2005.

The Appeal Court found that Team Dynamik?s breach of testing rules was intentional and therefore, increased the penalty in relation to unauthorised testing (Rule D1) from USD$50,000 (approximately AUD$72,000) to AUD$100,000. The other penalties imposed by the Stewards, totalling AUD$32,000, remain unchanged.

In addition to the monetary penalties, the Court further penalised Team Dynamik by requiring both cars to start one lap behind the field in the last round of the 2004 V8 Supercar Championship Series at Eastern Creek and in the first round of the 2005 V8 Supercar Championship Series. The penalty applies to all races at these rounds, with the two cars to be released from pit exit after the last car on the track has completed the first lap, except in an unusual situation, in which case the cars will be released at the discretion of the Race Director.

Team Dynamik?s appeal fee is forfeited, while TEGA?s appeal fee will be returned. In addition, costs of TEGA/AVESCO and CAMS have been awarded against Team Dynamik. Once relevant costs have been established, the Court will make the appropriate order.

The breaches took place at a remote airstrip in South Australia on Friday 20 August and Saturday 21 August 2004.

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For more information regarding this release please contact:

Jenny Thompson, Communications Manager, CAMS
Tel: 03 9593 7777
 
Results from Eastern Creeks second practice session.
Bright, Ambrose, Skaife, T Kelly, Luff, Besnard, Lowndes, Johnson, S Richards, Morris, Wilson, Ellery, Tander, Radisich, Jones, Ingall, Bargwanna, Weel, Bowe, Wills, Dumbrell, Baird, J Richards, Winterbottom, Seton, O Kelly, McConville, Murphy, R Kelly, Holdsworth, Brede, Davison, Tratt, Walden, D'Agostin.
 
Yep.

I wonder how Ambrose will do after yesterdays crash.
 
He'll be fine. It's a shame he didn't write it off.
It's on TV later. Top ten at 4.00 here then they are showing the twilight race where Ambrose will probably wrap up the championship.
 
Murphy qualified in 22nd while Ambrose is in 2nd and Bright is in 4th.
 
Maybe they missed a bolt upon repairing the car. PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!
 
Will the race be on TV in Adelaide this afternoon?
Lowndes is fastest so far.
 
Pole - Ambrose
2nd - Skaife
3rd - Kelly
This'll be awesome!:D
 
Ambrose won.
 
Toddler might be looking for a new job for next season!
 
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