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Holden or Ford

  • Holden

    Votes: 209 36.2%

  • Ford

    Votes: 175 30.3%

  • Ford and Holden

    Votes: 64 11.1%

  • Nismo

    Votes: 74 12.8%

  • Erebus

    Votes: 7 1.2%

  • Nismo and Erebus

    Votes: 6 1.0%

  • Volvo

    Votes: 43 7.4%
  • Total voters
    578
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Wilbur
I always thought that it would be nice to see NASCAR use cars closer to how V8's look. Martinsville, or Richmond or even Iowa would be pretty awesome.
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One would think it would be the best way to break in to the market,
 
Who doesn't want night races? It was the only cool thing I liked about Abu Dhabi to be honest, I liked how the track looked under the lights!

Am I only one who would like to see Bathurst end under the lights? I would have to do some research on all other tracks.

Glad to see HRT get some help, they are close but I want them to beat Triple 8 as top Holden team (even though I like both RedBull and Lowndes).
 
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Spacegoat
Personally, I'd love to see at least one race at Adelaide held under lights. It would be cool way to start the championship.
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That'd be great and all, but I'm cringing at the thought of the typical Saturday night club-going crowd in Adelaide, mixed with the typical redneck V8 Supercar fans after the race finishes. :yuck:

Also, I can imagine turning one of the two races into a night/twilight race would be a hard decision.. The post-race concerts are a huge drawcard for most (many people get tickets just for the concerts). If the races run too late into the night, it could cut down the concert line-up or the setlist times or cancel the concerts all together (unlikely).
 
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Cap'n Jack
Also, I can imagine turning one of the two races into a night/twilight race would be a hard decision.. The post-race concerts are a huge drawcard for most (many people get tickets just for the concerts). If the races run too late into the night, it could cut down the concert line-up or the setlist times or cancel the concerts all together (unlikely).
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Yeah, good points. 👍 And probably why there won't be any night time races.

Also, Roland Dane isn't very happy. :lol:
Shell shocked Dane steps into Burgess role.
Roland Dane will step back into the role of team principal at his Red Bull Racing Australia operation after being blind-sided by a strategic head-hunting move from Walkinshaw Racing.
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“If HRT think that the only way they can win is to try and take people from us then fine, they are clearly a richer team than we are,” Dane said.
“It’s clearly driven by James (Courtney), so maybe I should have anticipated it, but I didn’t".
“The essence of it is that Adrian came to see me and told me he had decided to take up a job offer at HRT. I agreed with him that it was inappropriate that he stayed here.
“He has a six month notice period which he is expecting to serve out we’re expecting him to honour before he takes up a position with HRT which he agreed to this morning.
“He is effectively on gardening leave for six months and I go back to doing what I did before.
“For the moment I’ll resume that role and we will carry on.
“We won an awful lot of Bathursts and races before he came along and we will carry on in that light now.
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If things keep going as they are, FPR could come out on top with their consistent results. I also think HRT smell RBRA blood. If they can't get the C'hip this year, a close second to FPR(If FORD are on top) or the best of the Holdens( still lots of points up for grabs) is as good as a win. So, I say good on Ryan.

that last comment by Dane. Yes, they did win. it's about finishing the great race..FIRST! BUT, FPR and HRT been there to take it when T8 wasn't even in the picture the last couple years. it's only by mishaps(Percat in the wall, Wil Davison brake failure, Youlden cold tyres) T8 got those wins. Not so much by strategy. Even David Reynolds could have been more aggressive and shoved it down on Whincup that last lap. We'll see in this last stage of the Championship.
 
05XR8
If things keep going as they are, FPR could come out on top with their consistent results. I also think HRT smell RBRA blood. If they can't get the C'hip this year, a close second to FPR(If FORD are on top) or the best of the Holdens( still lots of points up for grabs) is as good as a win. So, I say good on Ryan.

that last comment by Dane. Yes, they did win. it's about finishing the great race..FIRST! BUT, FPR and HRT been there to take it when T8 wasn't even in the picture the last couple years. it's only by mishaps(Percat in the wall, Wil Davison brake failure, Youlden cold tyres) T8 got those wins. Not so much by strategy. Even David Reynolds could have been more aggressive and shoved it down on Whincup that last lap. We'll see in this last stage of the Championship.
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It's pretty much T8's race to lose usually but there have been some strong runs by Reynolds (who surprised me but doesn't seem aggressive). I would like to see someone on smaller team take it this year which their are some teams who could possibly make a big stab at it as long as no mistakes.
 
and the only thing saving T8, are other teams winning. Next round(as is every round) will be crucial.

About DJR, I wonder if they should have grabbed Steven Richards to finish out the year. Tim Blanchard isn't in last place but, clearly, it isn't the car.
 
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Looking forward to seeing how they do. Hopefully they make a good impression so we could potentially see them back in October next year! 👍
 
05XR8
that last comment by Dane. Yes, they did win. it's about finishing the great race..FIRST! BUT, FPR and HRT been there to take it when T8 wasn't even in the picture the last couple years. it's only by mishaps(Percat in the wall, Wil Davison brake failure, Youlden cold tyres) T8 got those wins. Not so much by strategy. .
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To be fair, Whincup/Thompson(?). Should have won in 2011, if it wasn't for electrical problems. But, I do see your point. 👍
05XR8
About DJR, I wonder if they should have grabbed Steven Richards to finish out the year. Tim Blanchard isn't in last place but, clearly, it isn't the car.
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I'm honestly surprised they have persisted with him this long. Thought at the start of the year, it was the cars fault. As we saw last round, the car isn't the problem. :lol:
Cap'n Jack
Hopefully they make a good impression so we could potentially see them back in October next year! 👍
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👍
 
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Ordonez and Krumm are going to have a ball.

Tell me it wouldn't be crazy for NISSAN to do an IROC series with Altima V8 Supercars. Wait, I know this isn't the GT6 wishlist but, including the Altima as one of the driving tests in the game... Ok, i'll stop.
 
05XR8
Ordonez and Krumm are going to have a ball.

Tell me it wouldn't be crazy for NISSAN to do an IROC series with Altima V8 Supercars. Wait, I know this isn't the GT6 wishlist but, including the Altima as one of the driving tests in the game... Ok, i'll stop.
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Well I don't want to do it either, but this only further proves how much in bed PD and Nissan are, are PD creating Nissan test drivers or GT real racers?

I really hope they end up in the game. Anyways it's cool that they will be driving can't wait to see it and comment with you guys.
 
Holdenhsvgtsr
Don't rate them at all guess we are looking at Holden wins for the endro cup :)
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I'll be looking at a few team ups: McLaughlin/Perkins, Mostert/Wood, Engel/Johnson. Pretty much to see how the rookies go. Just wish Moffat had a better driver than Taz Douglas.

Another thing. That comment by BMW really has me steamed. I'm a BMW fan and if they can have a car in this series http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/01/stcc-video/ and there are only about 14 cars total, why wouldn't they allow a team to use their car in a series where all eyes are watching? The reason they gave is BS. i'm following STCC and Polestar to gain info about the series. That silhouette 3-series is no different to what a V8 would be.

BUT! having said that, Ford confirming the Mustang will be sold here before the Falcon is phased out, may open the door for coupes.
 
Hey, maybe they'll allow coupes but, keep sedans as the main focus. Nissan need to keep the Altima in hopes to keep up sales for that model. I'm not up to date on what Holden will bring to the table after the Commodore( Monaro badged Camaro? Opel Insignia?). Erebus are in no matter what- Betty has the racing bug.

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013/sports/ford/mustang/falcon-to-live-on-in-mustang-37758
While that will leave Ford without a direct competitor for HSV and its ballistic 430kW GTS flagship, it also opens up the prospect of a 335kW/575Nm Ford XR8 to rival Holden’s new 270kW/530Nm Commodore SS and, perhaps a 310kW/565Nm XR6 – both priced under $50,000.

Expect the latter to effectively be replaced by a twin-turbo V6-powered version of the next-generation Taurus that will emerge before the Falcon is retired in October 2016, while a new Explorer should similarly replace the Territory in the latter half of this decade.

By then, the Mustang is likely to form the basis of Ford’s V8 touring car contender, if a proposal by V8 Supercars board member and Red Bull Racing Australia owner Roland Dane to allow two-door coupes to compete with four-door sedans is approved.

update for Ordonez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3O-96WTud8&feature=share&list=UUvqfM-O5sMLcW9igyvt8pqw
 
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05XR8
I'll be looking at a few team ups: McLaughlin/Perkins, Mostert/Wood, Engel/Johnson. Pretty much to see how the rookies go. Just wish Moffat had a better driver than Taz Douglas.

Another thing. That comment by BMW really has me steamed. I'm a BMW fan and if they can have a car in this series http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/01/stcc-video/ and there are only about 14 cars total, why wouldn't they allow a team to use their car in a series where all eyes are watching? The reason they gave is BS. i'm following STCC and Polestar to gain info about the series. That silhouette 3-series is no different to what a V8 would be.

BUT! having said that, Ford confirming the Mustang will be sold here before the Falcon is phased out, may open the door for coupes.
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I'm more irritated now by this, and I think the number of cars they have running the gauntlet of series before seeing this was enough to be pissed. Too many groups give BS reasons for why they don't join, I guess they want to sugar coat. I'm not a BMW fan by any stretch but I do like an expansive manufacture grid.

Also I wouldn't mind coupes to be honest. It would be fun to watch.
 
Wilbur
Well the good thing for Nissan is they do build a 2 door Altima too.
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Not any more. Killed off after 2013.

And I dont want coupes because every other racing series out there use 2-door cars. If they switch, might as well be just another racing series and I'd lose interest fast.
 
R1600Turbo
Not any more. Killed off after 2013.

And I dont want coupes because every other racing series out there use 2-door cars. If they switch, might as well be just another racing series and I'd lose interest fast.
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Ah, well would you rather lose a big part of the series or allow changes? I wouldn't stop watching as its just the way car looks along with style of racing I like.
 
R1600Turbo
Not any more. Killed off after 2013.

And I dont want coupes because every other racing series out there use 2-door cars. If they switch, might as well be just another racing series and I'd lose interest fast.
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I don't see why, the racing wouldn't change it'd still be tough and rugged door to door aussie racing. Which is why I thought most of us watch it. They have a style of racing you don't see very often and that is why it's fun, the only place other than V8s I see crazy door to door bumping on average is Nascar and WTCC.
 
Wilbur
I wouldn't stop watching as its just the way car looks along with style of racing I like.
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I agree. Besides, V8s don't do wide-body(DTM/Super GT) because of it's current tyre package. So, they'd look like they do now.

Even though the 2015 Mustang will look different than this. I'd say the race car wouldn't be far off
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Granted it does look different BUT not terrible or keep me from following the series at all. The style of racing won't change, just looks which will be a mix between NASCAR and GT.
 
yes. sorry for the rehash. this is from a May '13 article http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2013/sports/ford/mustang/mustang-for-v8-supercars-36776

“I am saying have an open mind about two-door bodyshells. It is all about aspiration. Aspirational vehicles in the Australian market in the 1970s were actually two-door vehicles. Then they became derivatives of locally produced four-door Fords and Holdens.

“Now times are changing again. We have to have an open mind as to whether we go back to those two-door vehicles.”

Ford has already confirmed the next generation of its iconic Mustang, due for reveal in 2014, will be built in right-hand drive. Ford Australia has yet to say if it will be sold here. Dane argues it would be a logical car to race, especially now that V8 Supercars has adopted the ‘one size fits all’ Car of the Future chassis – another initiative he championed.

“If they wanted to race the Mustang here on the platform we have got today it would be easy to do,” he said.

Ford’s racing future beyond this year is unclear. Its contract with Ford Performance Racing is up for renewal. Over the last few seasons its V8 Supercars presence has dwindled to just six cars.

If his proposal is adopted Dane suggests Betty Klimenko’s Erebus Motorsport could race an E-class coupe if Mercedes-Benz made that request, or the Kelly brothers could move to a Skyline from the Altima.

Racing coupes against saloons would make the parity puzzle even more challenging, but Dane said it was solvable: “The aerodynamics can be equalised enough at the speeds that we do.”
 
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