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Holden or Ford

  • Holden

    Votes: 209 36.2%

  • Ford

    Votes: 175 30.3%

  • Ford and Holden

    Votes: 64 11.1%

  • Nismo

    Votes: 74 12.8%

  • Erebus

    Votes: 7 1.2%

  • Nismo and Erebus

    Votes: 6 1.0%

  • Volvo

    Votes: 43 7.4%
  • Total voters
    578
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Idk where it is but there was talk of a possible BMW/Penske connection, the deal being that Penske expands it's BMW dealer business into Oceania in return for works support from BMW Australia.

Even if it is true i would be worried, BMW do have a pretty disloyal reputation when it comes to international Motorsport, and seem at mercy of their board.
 
mustafur
Idk where it is but there was talk of a possible BMW/Penske connection, the deal being that Penske expands it's BMW dealer business into Oceania in return for works support from BMW Australia.

Even if it is true i would be worried, BMW do have a pretty disloyal reputation when it comes to international Motorsport, and seem at mercy of their board.
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BMW fluctuate, seems every 10 years or so they pull out of everything and go local Germany, then gradually grow out and out and out then pull everything back again, though V8s are "low budget" so if BMW were to throw some factory support to Penske for a bit then have the tab collected by the Australian dealerships we may see them around for a few years,
 
mustafur
BMW do have a pretty disloyal reputation when it comes to international Motorsport
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Based on what? BMW Sauber? They took a huge hit in the recession, and the failure of their KERS system made it easier for them to back out. But they have been supportive of their DTM programme and there is speculation that they will join the WEC in future.
 
The Mini WRC program comes to mind. They didn't even last a full season.
 
Cap'n Jack
The Mini WRC program comes to mind. They didn't even last a full season.
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It wasn't a great car to be running in the WRC to begin with. And given Prodrive's dismal failure with the Aston Martin AMR-One, I can't fault them for losing confidence in the project. It was little more than a project that was established for posterity, and it had no long-term future. As far as I remember, BMW's support was both reluctantly given and conditional - a lot like Mercedes in the V8s.
 
prisonermonkeys
It wasn't a great car to be running in the WRC to begin with. And given Prodrive's dismal failure with the Aston Martin AMR-One, I can't fault them for losing confidence in the project.
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Oh hahaha. No. Good of you to cut out how successful the Lola V12 was (top privateer lmp1), and how the Mini programme didn't even get proper funding. Without development it's impossible to keep up. As for Prodrive and sportscars, what about the successful DBR9 programme before, and back a couple years the 550 Maranello and BTCC Mondeo. And if you think Prodrive are bad in the rallying, Subaru Impreza programme. End of argument.
 
Furinkazen
Without development it's impossible to keep up.
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And without a solid platform, you might as well burn your money. The Cooper S was a poor choice to begin with. BMW never wanted it in rallying.

As for Prodrive's previous successes, most of them came from proven development platforms. Do you think it's coincidence that Prodrive's biggest failures came from projects they built from the ground up? Even the Impreza was a car designed for competition before Prodrive took control of the racing operations.
 
prisonermonkeys
The Cooper S was a poor choice to begin with. BMW never wanted it in rallying.
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Citation needed.

prisonermonkeys
As for Prodrive's previous successes, most of them came from proven development platforms. Do you think it's coincidence that Prodrive's biggest failures came from projects they built from the ground up?
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Ferrari 550 Maranello wasn't a failure.

And you just said the Mini was a total failiure, yet that came from a proven development platform in the WRC, and the AMR-One was a failure but wasn't a ground up project, as they had just designed the Lola.

Talk about contradicting yourself.
 
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Ugh, still 2 weeks until the next round. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
http://erebusmotorsportv8.com/2015/2015/06/03/erebus-excited-about-return-to-asia-for-kl-grand-prix/

With all the classic attributes of a tight and gritty street track the KL City Grand Prix circuit also boasts features seldom seen on a true city street track.

Fast sweeping turn combinations and significant elevation change on Jalan Sultan Ismail, a tight run through Jalan Perak and significant overtaking opportunities such as the bottom of Jalan Ampang make the KL City Grand Prix Circuit not only exciting but FIA compliant, approved and safe.
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Im waiting to see if Petronas will show up on one of the cars.
 
Furinkazen
Ferrari 550 Maranello wasn't a failure.

And you just said the Mini was a total failiure, yet that came from a proven development platform in the WRC, and the AMR-One was a failure but wasn't a ground up project, as they had just designed the Lola.

Talk about contradicting yourself.
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Rationalise it however you want, but Prodrive aren't sacrosanct. When they're good, they're good, but they have had some colossal failures.
 
prisonermonkeys
Rationalise it however you want, but Prodrive aren't sacrosanct. When they're good, they're good, but they have had some colossal failures.
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I was just pointing out the flaws in your logic. Who hasn't had failures in any form of motor sport?
 
Wonder if they'll have some Malaysian drivers briefly at the wheel or going for rides.
 
05XR8
Wonder if they'll have some Malaysian drivers briefly at the wheel or going for rides.
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I don't know if there are many. Maybe as a wildcard.
 
Please not Alex Yoong again.
 
Watching Supercars Life. The E63s look good. They do add class to the field. When they hit the strrets of Malaysia, I thing big things are going to happen for the sport.
 
I vote for Highlands Motorsport Park but, if this is helping to secure funds for the future, do it.


In other news:
http://www.speedcafe.com/2015/06/05/shell-helix-colours-for-pyeambrose-in-darwin/
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Please keep that one Penske, it's the best looking one they've had so far

Thanks for the new avatar :)
 
Im surprised there hasnt been news of an FG X for XBONE yet.
 
05XR8
I vote for Highlands Motorsport Park but, if this is helping to secure funds for the future, do it.
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It's supposed to be a circuit that hasn't been finished yet, hence the suggestion that it may not go ahead. Iskandar Johor has been suggested as a potential venue, but I would be surprised if they go for two rounds in Malaysia.
 
I'm surprised China or Japan were not in the running more than I'm surprised Malaysia is in. I know I pull things from left field but, geez, is there something underlying this venture? Such as gaining backers and interest to expand the series like NZ have V8 touring cars.

Quinn is hoping NZ Tourers restructuring will make the series better. If (V8) Supercars(Warburton) are planning to make this an Oceania only series, Gen2 rules could make this similar to how GTs are global racers. Having the same type of car for Asia, NZ, Australia may not be favorable to fans but, if they are doing their own thing to train up local drivers, I feel that's good.

This might explain what I am getting at.
http://www.speedcafe.com/2015/06/06/sepang-circuit-to-run-kl-city-v8-supercars-event/

Arrasu stressed that the class will be GT Global’s own category and not the existing GT Asia, which features a strong grid of GT3 machinery.

“It is our own homegrown race,” he said.

“We have come up with the regulations, they are already filed with the local ASN for approval and I understand it’s ok.
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Probably a Petronas funded race.
 
The KL circuit has already been modified, with the addition of some chicanes:

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