Weak Vettes

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Omologato
It's not always about quarter mile times. I for one, dont care about drag racing. Not my style of racing.

Fair enough, the Z06 will outperform any street car under $100,000 on a road course with the Viper being its only competition. You don't consider that an accomplishment? đź’ˇ
 
Blkout
Fair enough, the Z06 will outperform any street car under $100,000 on a road course with the Viper being its only competition. You don't consider that an accomplishment? đź’ˇ
I do. I'll give the devil its due. The new C6's are sex on wheels:D
 
So let me point out the Corvette's 400M slalom Speed... 70.3mph - factory claimed. I've seen Motor Trend get the 2003 Z06 up to 72+mph (Not exactly sure what it was, but it was alot higher than facorty claim).

Here are other various slalom speeds:
'03 Viper SRT-10: 70.4mph
'05 Ford GT (yes, the supercar): 69.5mph
'98 Mustang Cobra-R: 69.3mph
'98 Skyline R34: 68.1mph
'02 Ferrari 575M: 65.3mph
'03 Porsche GT2: 68.1mph
(*Alot of these cars are VERY expensive... Some 4x's the cost of the Z06)

As you can see, the Vette has somewhat of an edge over the competition. Hopefully the handling in GT4 will at least be everything we can expect from an actual Vette.
 
Blkout
Just for the record, a Z06 will run low 12's, not low 13's, and some Z06 owners have run high 11's completely stock.

Is that with stock tires? I wouldnÂ’t be surprised if a zo6 could run high 11s with slicks at low altitude, low temperature, and low humidity, but IÂ’m skeptical with stock tires. I thought they ran 12.5-12.6.
 
Omologato
I do. I'll give the devil its due. The new C6's are sex on wheels:D

The C6 is hideous, most of the Vette community does not like it at all. The C5 is still considered the best looking Vette ever built. I love the new interior in the C6, but the exterior has too many Japanese styling cues for sure. GM really screwed this generation all up. The C6 Z06 looks better than the C6 coupe, but its still not that pretty to me. Fortunately, the C6 Z06 is going to be one mean machine so that helps to make up for its lackluster exterior.
 
Motor Trend got it down to 12.2 in their HighSpeed Shootout article. I'm not sure what it was, something along that lines of Shootout - research it. You'll find some rather interesting results. I've also seen time slips lower than 12'00.
 
syclone538
Is that with stock tires? I wouldnÂ’t be surprised if a zo6 could run high 11s with slicks at low altitude, low temperature, and low humidity, but IÂ’m skeptical with stock tires. I thought they ran 12.5-12.6.


Yes, low 12's with stock tires and stock car are VERY common, high 11's with stock tires and stock car is a bit less common but there have been quite a few that have done it. GM's performance estimate was 12.4 from the factory, but many good drivers have been able to best that. I think the record for a stock Z06 on stock tires right now is 11.71
 
FAOLIU05
So let me point out the Corvette's 400M slalom Speed... 70.3mph - factory claimed. I've seen Motor Trend get the 2003 Z06 up to 72+mph (Not exactly sure what it was, but it was alot higher than facorty claim).

Here are other various slalom speeds:
'03 Viper SRT-10: 70.4mph
'05 Ford GT (yes, the supercar): 69.5mph
'98 Mustang Cobra-R: 69.3mph
'98 Skyline R34: 68.1mph
'02 Ferrari 575M: 65.3mph
'03 Porsche GT2: 68.1mph
(*Alot of these cars are VERY expensive... Some 4x's the cost of the Z06)

As you can see, the Vette has somewhat of an edge over the competition. Hopefully the handling in GT4 will at least be everything we can expect from an actual Vette.


If you ever buy a Z06, you'll understand why it gets so much hype, its all that and then some, trust me. Its the most fun car I've ever owned.
 
Blkout
The C6 is hideous, most of the Vette community does not like it at all. I love the new interior in the C6, but the exterior has too many Japanese styling cues for sure.

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Blkout - Could you clarify that statement?
I also provided a pictures of the infamous Ferrari that everyone says Chevy copied...

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A better comparison would've been Viper SRT-10 Vs. Barchetta...
You look at that Barchetta and tell me that Dodge didn't take a few cues from Ferrari!
 
The C6 takes some styling cues from the Viper and from some Japanese cars. As for my statement about is being ugly, I'm a member of the Corvette and Z06 message boards, that's just the common consensus. The C6 exterior is not well liked. Obviously there will always be some people who like it no matter what it looks like, but from I've seen its about a 70/30 split right now with the larger number not liking it all that much.

If need be, I can point out the exterior styling that people don't seem to like much. The nose seems to be one of the biggest sore points, it looks like a big smiling mouth, the headlight while exposed which I do like, me and most other don't like the way GM colored the recessed area the same color as the car, its looks a little too ricey, the rear end isn't too well liked either, some people say it looks like it was chopped off, and almost everyone hates the 3rd brakelight mounted on the rear decklid. Some people don't like new gill slits on the side, I for one think they are too saquared off and don't flow well with the lines of the car.

Granted, you can find a photo of the C6 from a certain angle that looks ok, but there are far more angles that are not very attractive. Ths C6 has not been well received by the Corvette community like the C5 was.
 
I can see how Chevy incorperated some things influenced by over-seas manufacturers, but in all reality, it's very original. It's just not something we're used to. It took a long time to finally build up to the 2004 C5 Chassis. And we really liked where the Vette was headed until we saw this frail-looking Ferrari that Chevrolet tried to pass as a Vette... I think it was the fixed lights that pissed everyone off. I bet if they were flip-up's, people would've had cream-dreams over the C6. lol

Sorry if I seem aggressive, because I come from a board thats all about "JDM" and Imports... Every once and a while someone knocks on the C5, and I have to set them straight. I kind of got the same vibe from GTP for a while there.
 
syclone538
I think the c6 looks good, except for the headlights, which I hate.


Common complaint, I like the exposed headlights but don't like the body colored recessed area, that's why the C6 looks best in black and blue, dark colors hide the lines of the car and the headlights better.
 
FAOLIU05
I can see how Chevy incorperated some things influenced by over-seas manufacturers, but in all reality, it's very original. It's just not something we're used to. It took a long time to finally build up to the 2004 C5 Chassis. And we really liked where the Vette was headed until we saw this frail-looking Ferrari that Chevrolet tried to pass as a Vette... I think it was the fixed lights that pissed everyone off. I bet if they were flip-up's, people would've had cream-dreams over the C6. lol


The C5 was very well received from the beginning, the C6 is off to a rough start. I know VERY MANY C5 owners that aren't in any hurry to get rid of their cars for a C6.
 
Blkout
The C5 was very well received from the beginning, the C6 is off to a rough start. I know VERY MANY C5 owners that aren't in any hurry to get rid of their cars for a C6.

Ha, your talk'in to a kid whose dream car is a 1997 Z51 (or a '95 ZR1). To hell with the C6. The only thing I would even consider looking at would be the LS7 powered Z06. But in my opinion, that hood-scoop takes it one step closer from being a Vette, to being a Viper.
 
FAOLIU05
Ha, your talk'in to a kid whose dream car is a 1997 Z51 (or a '95 ZR1). To hell with the C6. The only thing I would even consider looking at would be the LS7 powered Z06. But in my opinion, that hood-scoop takes it one step closer from being a Vette, to being a Viper.


I wanted a ZR-1 back in the day but didn't make enough money to afford one at that time, it was an awesome car, but the current Z06 walks all over it. The ZR-1 still has a higher top speed than the Z06 though, but that's because the Z06 is geared lower.

I totally agree that the hood scoop makes the C6 Z06 look even more like the Viper.


Here's another picture of my Z06 at the dealership 2 days before I bought it. This was before I chromed the wheels and tinted the windows.

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FAOLIU05
You know what... I think we deserve to be pissed off. Because they underminded the Vette in GT3 also. 13.2 seconds in the 400M? Pshh... It should've been at least 12.9 (and thats a bad run for the Vette). Fact is that we've been waiting for what seems like decades for this game to finally release, and when it comes down to it, PD tries to pull this crap on us. The Vette is a HUGE addition to GT4, because it is a HUGE representation of America in general. Ever see how many Vettes are out on the streets every day? They sell like hotcakes! The Z06 is supposed to one of our Nights in Shining Armor... But no... We have to settle for a POS "2000" Vette.


To Me the Vette and the Mustang completely define their own "genres" I guess, So undercutting and butering the Mustang like they did in this game is bull*****, Hey I love the 05 just as much as anyone, it sounds great, and is very fast, But there are only 3 Incarnations of it in game: 2005 Mustang, Cobra R, and the Jacked up "Shelby"

It would've been great though to see some Better Mustangs (Maybe a 93 Cobra R! how about that one for history instead of the 2000)

I can see why the 2004 GTO is in since thats the first incarnation in like 30 years, But A 2005 Would have been An awsome add also, with the AutoCross body Kit, and 400HP That would've been very nice.

But maybe GT7 at this rate.
 
THe new vette looks amazing with the exception of the headlights. I like fixed lights but I think the ones they used aren't nearly aggressive enough.

GM and PD haven't always had the closest relationship. Things like the C5 in GT2 and now this.
 
Pontiac... A company with so much more to offer than just the sluggish 2004 GTO. What about the Firebird? The Camaro's old rival, as you could call it. It would've been crazy to see that Bandit along side that '69 Z28. It would've also been cool to see a Dual-Ram Air T/A from the yesterday - seeing as how they're better than the SS Camaro ever was. GT4 just shot and missed everything a car enthusiast would've love to see from America; Big old kick-ass Muscle Cars that tare off the line like hooker for my balls. lol

And that Blue Z06 is just pure beauty. I love your Vette. You did exactly what I would've done first... Chrome the wheels and tint the Windows. Where are you going as far as performance? Are you interested in tuning and modifying? Because once I get my LT5, I'm hitting the DRM catalog ASAP! lol
 
My major gripe with the C6 is the fixed headlights. One of the distinguishing features of Corvettes since the 60s has been their trademark pop-up lights. Other than that, I think it looks really good.

Corvettes aside, there are lots of cars that PD missed. The aforementioned Firebird Trans Ams (Smokey and the Bandit... mmmmm), the 1996 Impala SS and its imitator, the Mercury Marauder, the GMC Syclone/Typhoon, the '69 GTO Judge, 5.0L Mustangs... lots of stuff.

Stuff to see in GT5, I guess... :(
 
Blkout
I can do that, but what's the point? I'm 30 years old, there is no reason why I can't afford this car. I can post a dozen more pictures of this same car, if you can find those same pics anywhere else on the net with someone else claiming its their car, I'll give you the keys to it.

Do you know what... it would be great if you could search for a picture with a picture... if you know what I mean... Not that this has any relevance to what you've put... but I mean you could take your pic and search the internet for pictures the same and see where else someone was using it?!

C.

PS I'm not saying you don't own your car... but I thought that this would be a useful feature to have... wonder if google can sort it out!!

PPS Of course the next iteration of that would be to be able to take part pictures and search for pictures that it came from... Of course that would ruin the "what part of a car is this" threads!!
 
Blkout
The 2006 Z06 is going to be quickest and best performing domestic car at any price barring an exotic like the Saleen S7.

No, I bet the Ford GT will take the Vette as well., but we'll have to wait and see.

Blkout
I could care less what you think, if you knew how many compliments I receive daily on this car, you would realize that your opinion means very little. I'm not bragging, but I love the car, its an awesome machine and I don't think I've ever met anyone that didn't like it, especially when they see it in person. Chevrolet hit a homerun when they built this car, the Viper is the only competition this car has under $100,000.

There's plenty of people who don't like the Z06, don't be absurd. I'm not one of them, as I like most of the car (don't care for the back end though), but there are people out there who want nothing to do with it. As for no other cars being competition for it, I'll have to disagree with you. I've handed several modded Z06's the "lose" light at the track in my Cobra. I've even run swapped fastest laps back and forth with one at the autocross. The car is nice, nothing wrong with that, but back off a bit on it being untouchable. You must not compete with it much if you think that. :sly:


Blkout
Yes, low 12's with stock tires and stock car are VERY common, high 11's with stock tires and stock car is a bit less common but there have been quite a few that have done it. GM's performance estimate was 12.4 from the factory, but many good drivers have been able to best that. I think the record for a stock Z06 on stock tires right now is 11.71

Actually, I think 11's completely stock is very rare, not a "bit less common". I don't doubt it could do it, but I've never seen any of the MODDED Z06's around here get into the 11's on street tires. I don't think it's as easy as you make it sound.


ChristmasGTO
To Me the Vette and the Mustang completely define their own "genres" I guess, So undercutting and butering the Mustang like they did in this game is bull*****, Hey I love the 05 just as much as anyone, it sounds great, and is very fast, But there are only 3 Incarnations of it in game: 2005 Mustang, Cobra R, and the Jacked up "Shelby"

It would've been great though to see some Better Mustangs (Maybe a 93 Cobra R! how about that one for history instead of the 2000)

I can see why the 2004 GTO is in since thats the first incarnation in like 30 years, But A 2005 Would have been An awsome add also, with the AutoCross body Kit, and 400HP That would've been very nice.

But maybe GT7 at this rate.

I agree completely. Whether they screwed over some of the Chevy fans or not, they still gave them a hell of a lot more than they did us poor Ford lovers. 👎
 
What about classic british car lovers there are hardly any of them no rolls royces no bently road cars hardly anything from jaguar and no noble even thought that is modern
 
Dimension
What about classic british car lovers there are hardly any of them no rolls royces no bently road cars hardly anything from jaguar and no noble even thought that is modern

Oh and the inclusion of one Marcos 75 bhp marcos, when there are also models that have around 400bhp stock. Marcos GT racears? I could think of a whole load of Jags that should be in. A decent Lister racecar that doesn't weigh 1600kgs, a Caterham that we can actually race against other cars? What about a nice classic Escort Mexico, RS1800? The list goes on and on.

Get over it.
 
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