Weak Vettes

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Emohawk
The first Z06 was more significant though, it did great things for the C5s image. THe second iteration was just a refinement of the initial idea.

True, but doesn't it have just as much significance as the hundreds of all-too-similar Skylines?
 
FAOLIU05
Pontiac... A company with so much more to offer than just the sluggish 2004 GTO. What about the Firebird? The Camaro's old rival, as you could call it. It would've been crazy to see that Bandit along side that '69 Z28. It would've also been cool to see a Dual-Ram Air T/A from the yesterday - seeing as how they're better than the SS Camaro ever was. GT4 just shot and missed everything a car enthusiast would've love to see from America; Big old kick-ass Muscle Cars that tare off the line like hooker for my balls. lol

And that Blue Z06 is just pure beauty. I love your Vette. You did exactly what I would've done first... Chrome the wheels and tint the Windows. Where are you going as far as performance? Are you interested in tuning and modifying? Because once I get my LT5, I'm hitting the DRM catalog ASAP! lol


So far, I've added a Vararam Induction and Hurst shifter, ceramic brake pads, slotted rotors, and lowered the car about 1", to be honest I probably won't do much more other than full length LG Motorsport headers. The car is very quick already and I love the fact that its VERY reliable. I have built many drag cars in the past, mostly Camaro's, but I just don't feel right modifying this Vette too much. Its such a wonderful package from the factory, the only cars I want more than this car is a Ferrari 430 Modena or a 2006 Z06.


DRM has quite a bit for the LT5, their black widow car was awesome back in the day.
 
yeti
Do you know what... it would be great if you could search for a picture with a picture... if you know what I mean... Not that this has any relevance to what you've put... but I mean you could take your pic and search the internet for pictures the same and see where else someone was using it?!

C.

PS I'm not saying you don't own your car... but I thought that this would be a useful feature to have... wonder if google can sort it out!!

PPS Of course the next iteration of that would be to be able to take part pictures and search for pictures that it came from... Of course that would ruin the "what part of a car is this" threads!!


I agree that would be a cool feature, maybe a way to upload the picture you're looking for and google search the internet for the same picture.


As for it being my car, I know you are not doubting me, but I also post under this exact same username at the Corvette Forum and Z06Vette Forum.

You can do a quick search there and see my username and see the same car there.

http://www.z06vette.com/member_detail.php?id=343
 
Lethalchem
No, I bet the Ford GT will take the Vette as well., but we'll have to wait and see.

With the almost exact same power to weight ratio as the Ford GT its going to be much closer than Ford would like to see it. And to think, GM did it at half the price. 👍


There's plenty of people who don't like the Z06, don't be absurd. I'm not one of them, as I like most of the car (don't care for the back end though), but there are people out there who want nothing to do with it. As for no other cars being competition for it, I'll have to disagree with you. I've handed several modded Z06's the "lose" light at the track in my Cobra. I've even run swapped fastest laps back and forth with one at the autocross. The car is nice, nothing wrong with that, but back off a bit on it being untouchable. You must not compete with it much if you think that. :sly:

I never said people didn't like the Z06, where did you get that from? There is always somebody out there that doesn't like ANY car you can think of. You can disagree all you want about not having any competition but stock for stock, there is no street car under $100,000 except the Viper and that includes your Cobra. While I will admit that the 2003-2004 Cobra is a fairly close match at the drag strip, its still slower and on a road course its not even close so please don't even try to go there. I compete plenty with the car at the drag strip and have many friends that run DE's with their Z06's, I know very well what this car's capable of and if you knew as much as you seem to think you do, we would not be having this discussion. :dunce:


Actually, I think 11's completely stock is very rare, not a "bit less common". I don't doubt it could do it, but I've never seen any of the MODDED Z06's around here get into the 11's on street tires. I don't think it's as easy as you make it sound.

Of course I said its not common, but it has happened and more than once. No one said it was easy, I said the car was capable. Just because you've never seen one do it doesn't mean it can't be done. I don't see too many 2003-2004 Cobra's running faster than 13.1's at my local track but I know they are capable of going faster than that and I never say its not possible. :)
 
Blkout
I never said people didn't like the Z06, where did you get that from? There is always somebody out there that doesn't like ANY car you can think of. You can disagree all you want about not having any competition but stock for stock, there is no street car under $100,000 except the Viper and that includes your Cobra. While I will admit that the 2003-2004 Cobra is a fairly close match at the drag strip, its still slower and on a road course its not even close so please don't even try to go there. I compete plenty with the car at the drag strip and have many friends that run DE's with their Z06's, I know very well what this car's capable of and if you knew as much as you seem to think you do, we would not be having this discussion. :dunce:

I like the z06. But you say no competition from cars less than 100k except the viper?! That's so wrong it makes me laugh. I guess you never heard of Caterhams or The Tiger Z100 Mk1.
 
Never doubted your ownership Blkout...I'm jealous, but happy for you...maybe someday I'll buy it off you when you decide to finally part with it ( yeah right.... )

Personally, the new vette is like the original dodge ram for me. At first it was such a change from what I knew, I rejected it. Once I got familiar with it, I love(d) it.

It's a new thing for Corvette, and I can see why it's not as well liked by the 'vette community. It's a break from what they are familiar and comfortable with. Imagine what you 'vette fanboys would do if they turned the vette into a Diablo or Enzo style car?

There'd be a few Chevy engineers waking up to severed cylinder heads in bed next to them :lol:

If anything PD did us a favor and have never included that aweful 1988 'vette in the game.
 
S13DRIFTSPEC
I like the z06. But you say no competition from cars less than 100k except the viper?! That's so wrong it makes me laugh. I guess you never heard of Caterhams or The Tiger Z100 Mk1.

Last time I checked both cars you just mentioned are race cars, I VERY clearly said street cars. Read more carefully before posting.
 
Emohawk
Well, they're street legal. Weather you'd actually want to drive one on the street is up to you.


Exactly, when you start blurring the lines like that, you can build ANY car to outrun a Z06 under $100,000. The bottom line is that I said stock street cars under $100,000 and no matter how anyone tries to twist it, the Viper is the ONLY car that comes close to the Z06. Its one impressive machine, even more so for the money.
 
Lethalchem
I agree completely. Whether they screwed over some of the Chevy fans or not, they still gave them a hell of a lot more than they did us poor Ford lovers. 👎


Yeah, there's no classic Mustangs. They were just as influential as Corvettes. In fact the Mustang made a HUGE splash when it first came out. I'd count that as automotive history.

I would ahve loved to see:

first body gen Mustang (1964-1966. No Shelby doesn't count)

1968 Mustang GT390 Bullitt (hey, that was an awesome car. If the Inital D AE86 can be there, why not another famous movie car?)

1969 Mach 1 428CJ
1969 Boss 302 (Trans-Am ring a bell? It handles well, so it should make Japanese and Americans happy)
1969 Boss 429

1971 Mach 1

And some other "recent" Mustangs (various models from '85-'04)

Also, as sated before, there were no classic Austrialian cars.
 
I would've also liked to have seen the '03 Mach 1 and the '95 Mustang BOSS Conept...

The thing about the Corvette Z06 is that its nearly unmatched on the streets. The only real threatening cars are cars that usually out power the Z06 by 50 or more horsepower at triple the Vette's MSRP value. And those "threatening" cars have maybe 1 to 2 tenths of a seconds difference in acceleration, braking, and 1/4-mile performance. And those cars usually have an insane top speed. But looking at the situation realistically, you aren't going to be out running the Z06 by much, and you won't ever be traveling 200mph+ down a residential back street, city street, or highway. It takes alot of driving skill and alot of balls to hit 200mph in such a un-predictable enviroment, not entirely geared toward High Speeds... Most street races don't exceed 100mph.
 
mmm 95 BOSS Concept...What I want to see the most are:

1993 Cobra R (First Year, And my Favorite Body Style)
( http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/mustang40th/svt/1993CobraR.jpg )

2003 Mach 1 (First Return of the Fabled Mach 1)

Saleen SA-10 (god the look of the car makes me want to do harm to myself)
(http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/mustang40th/saleen/SA10.jpg)

Since it seems like PD is into doing "Firsts" in thsi installment, then the 1993 Cobra R should've been in over the 2000 (IMO Since its the first year)

The Mach 1 Should've Been A No Brainer.


How about an 83 Mustang? First Year of the Convertable since its absence 10 years prior.
also it had the 5.0 Which Boosted the most Horespower out of a mustang since 1973 at 175HP and the Blue Oval would Grace the Mustang for the first Time ever.

That would've been a stellar choice GT's with T-Tops that year looked pretty nice.

Or Could've gone with an 84 SVO, Not a bad choice, first year, 4 Cyl Turbo, meant to handle well against the European cars at the time. Also had 4 Wheel Disk brakes. Koni Adjustable Struts and shocks, a Larger Front and rear Sway bar, some say it was the best handling mustang ever produced, Really a very Fine Car.

Or the Semi-Rare GT350, only 5,260 GT350s we're made in support of the 20 year Anniversery of the Mustang, sporting either the 4 Cyl Turbo, or the 5.0.

Either way not like it really matters, those I guess are cars I would have LIKED to see, but maybe one day A GT will Pay homage to at LEAST the SVO it deserves it.


Oh yeah, FAOLIU05 Are you sure you dont mean the 1994 10.0L Boss 429 Concept?

0-60 1.9 Seconds.
1/4 at 10.55 @ 135.05
:scared:


EDIT~
Oh yeah, and since they are so into Concepts WHY NOT THE GT-R?!
440HP! That was one NICE Design! I think that would've been A great concept to add into GT4!
 
i think it wouldve taken a lot more time to research all these cars to put them in the game. the game is already being delayed long enough as it is, but to add 50+ more cars would take a lot more work than most people think. then theres the people that say well, this car is in the game, so why isnt this one in, but if it went like that, every car in the world would have to be in the game. heck, if they really wanted to put every car in the game, it wouldve taken forever. the PS3 or maybe even PS4 would probably release before GT4 wouldve come out. the fact is that yea, there are some cars that probably shouldve been in the game that arent. but PD probably has a good reason for not putting it in, whether licensing issues, time constraints, or other things. shoot, id like to see a couple of point to point races, as i think thats a nice little diversion from the same old tracks. but that doesnt seem like its gonna happen anytime soon. i think people just dont see that its not as simple as it looks, and modeling all these cars and stuff is very time consuming. its not like they can copy and paste a generic car 500 times and just put a different body on it. theres a heck of a lot of work to be done for each car to be in the game, because they all have different specs and little details here and there. all in all, GT4 is still just a videogame, and probably has the largest collection of cars out of any game thats coming out. so i say that we just enjoy what we get.
 
Do you think that part of the reason why so many American car afficionados are disappointed in PD because PD doesn't really KNOW American cars? I should have asked that in my "American Cars" thread, but I just wanted to ask those who feel "robbed" over "weak 'Vettes."
 
JohnBM01
Do you think that part of the reason why so many American car afficionados are disappointed in PD because PD doesn't really KNOW American cars? I should have asked that in my "American Cars" thread, but I just wanted to ask those who feel "robbed" over "weak 'Vettes."


Well, I think PD could have made a better effort to cater to the US market, its obvious the game is centered around the Japanese since the majority of cars in the game are Japanese and the fact that GT is always released in Japan first.

I would rather drive 10-15 different American cars than 87 versions of a Honda Civic or Nissan Skyline.

Like I said, the bottom line is that PD caters to Japanese market, not the US market. Its a $hitty thing to do, but they do it every year.
 
Blkout
I can do that, but what's the point? I'm 30 years old, there is no reason why I can't afford this car. I can post a dozen more pictures of this same car, if you can find those same pics anywhere else on the net with someone else claiming its their car, I'll give you the keys to it.

im waiting and the point is to prove that you arent blowing smoke up our arses, your 30 huh? :boggled:
 
Red Six
im waiting and the point is to prove that you arent blowing smoke up our arses, your 30 huh? :boggled:


how do I know that you're not 10 and eat babies? let the guy be, he has no reason to lie. if so, who cares?


Oh btw Cute Ford Remark, Take it you drive a Civic? With NOS and Quad Turbos Pulling at 1,000,000 HP Comming out of Hairpin turns at 50,000MPH?
 
well...I'm just happy having the ZR-1 in GT4

its only been 2 days since I got my copy and I already bought the ZR-1 modded nearly to the max.... I just love the exterior of that car..:D:D

I you want I can show some pics of the ZR-1 I have taken in photo mode

I also own the Holden Commodore SS in GT4... so plz ask if you want some pics! :)
 
JohnBM01
Do you think that part of the reason why so many American car afficionados are disappointed in PD because PD doesn't really KNOW American cars? I should have asked that in my "American Cars" thread, but I just wanted to ask those who feel "robbed" over "weak 'Vettes."
That's what it seems like. I don't know, maybe it's hard for them to acquire them. :indiff:
 
ChristmasGTO
Dunno, They got the GTX In GT2, Wonder why they couldnt get it in 4?

Btw vette how awsome is the ZL1? I love that style also
Yeah that's just what I don't get. They've got these awesome cars in GT2, but they didn't carry them over to GT4.
 
I know, Makes no sense oh yeah cobra, dont you think this is cute:


"My straight SIX will eat your V8 ***Go-fast stickers dont make you fast ***
FRIENDS DONT LET FRIENDS DRIVE FORDS "
 
ChristmasGTO
mmm 95 BOSS Concept...What I want to see the most are:

1993 Cobra R (First Year, And my Favorite Body Style)
( http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/mustang40th/svt/1993CobraR.jpg )

2003 Mach 1 (First Return of the Fabled Mach 1)

Saleen SA-10 (god the look of the car makes me want to do harm to myself)
(http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/shows/mustang40th/saleen/SA10.jpg)

Since it seems like PD is into doing "Firsts" in thsi installment, then the 1993 Cobra R should've been in over the 2000 (IMO Since its the first year)

The Mach 1 Should've Been A No Brainer.


How about an 83 Mustang? First Year of the Convertable since its absence 10 years prior.
also it had the 5.0 Which Boosted the most Horespower out of a mustang since 1973 at 175HP and the Blue Oval would Grace the Mustang for the first Time ever.

That would've been a stellar choice GT's with T-Tops that year looked pretty nice.

Or Could've gone with an 84 SVO, Not a bad choice, first year, 4 Cyl Turbo, meant to handle well against the European cars at the time. Also had 4 Wheel Disk brakes. Koni Adjustable Struts and shocks, a Larger Front and rear Sway bar, some say it was the best handling mustang ever produced, Really a very Fine Car.

Or the Semi-Rare GT350, only 5,260 GT350s we're made in support of the 20 year Anniversery of the Mustang, sporting either the 4 Cyl Turbo, or the 5.0.

Either way not like it really matters, those I guess are cars I would have LIKED to see, but maybe one day A GT will Pay homage to at LEAST the SVO it deserves it.


Oh yeah, FAOLIU05 Are you sure you dont mean the 1994 10.0L Boss 429 Concept?

0-60 1.9 Seconds.
1/4 at 10.55 @ 135.05
:scared:


EDIT~
Oh yeah, and since they are so into Concepts WHY NOT THE GT-R?!
440HP! That was one NICE Design! I think that would've been A great concept to add into GT4!
Good points there. Yeah, the GTR would have been nice. 👍
 
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