What's special about AE86?

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Originally posted by Famine
By the way, is it "AE86" or is it "AE8 6"? All these people referring to it as "Hachi-roku" are saying "Eight Six". "Eighty-six" would be "Hachijuroku". Just an FYI.
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It was, yes... :D

Race Idiot - If you own a TVR, generally you don't care about how much it costs to run - especially not once you turn the ignition key. Besides, you don't have to worry about replacing panels through rust - the Trueno owner does...
 
Originally posted by battle_stage
Also, I don't see how you can even compare an AE86 to a TVR. The AE86 is no supercar like everone percieves it to be.
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None of us has said that, we were just comparing what we could get for 4 and a half grand.
 
Originally posted by Famine
Race Idiot - If you own a TVR, generally you don't care about how much it costs to run - especially not once you turn the ignition key. Besides, you don't have to worry about replacing panels through rust - the Trueno owner does...
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Meh, I know which one I could probably afford to insure. Also I have a feeling anything with a major amount of torque would probably get wrapped around a tree. I sometimes get scared of my mad tyte 1.6 I4 fr0d power.
 
Personally, I perceive it to be an overrated piece of 1980's technology which attracts an unreasonable fan following because of a cartoon.

The only supercar with that little horsepower is a Caterham/Westfield Seven clone.

The only comparison is price.

And the thread title IS "What's special about AE86?" - to which the answer is "nothing".

Originally posted by battle_stage
No, you were wrong because you jumped to a conclusion.
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Really? Which conclusion was that?

Originally posted by Race Idiot
Meh, I know which one I could probably afford to insure. Also I have a feeling anything with a major amount of torque would probably get wrapped around a tree. I sometimes get scared of my mad tyte 1.6 I4 fr0d power.
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I think both would get classic car insurance, as they are over 13 years old. But I agree about the tree... :D
 
Originally posted by Race Idiot
Meh, I know which one I could probably afford to insure. Also I have a feeling anything with a major amount of torque would probably get wrapped around a tree. I sometimes get scared of my mad tyte 1.6 I4 fr0d power.
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Bu then you could afford the insurance on a TVR, as you wouldn't have to worry about spending extra money on rust repairs. ;)
 
The cartoon was about 10 years after the car's original success. For a full decade it was an extremely popular car because it was affordable, lightweight, RWD, 50/50 weight distribution, and came with a factory LSD. Initial D only glorified a car that already had a well established reputation.
 
Originally posted by TVRKing
Bu then you could afford the insurance on a TVR, as you wouldn't have to worry about spending extra money on rust repairs. ;)
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:lol: Brilliant... :D
 
Originally posted by battle_stage
The cartoon was about 10 years after the car's original success. For a full decade it was an extremely popular car because it was affordable, lightweight, RWD, 50/50 weight distribution, and came with a factory LSD. Initial D only glorified a car that already had a well established reputation.
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I'm guessing that, for that full decade, it was a family's main car - or at least second car - and driven around the streets of Roppongi in a normal fashion. Then the cartoon came out and 18 year olds everywhere started buying any remaining examples and inexplicably driving them sideways.

Just as a 1991 FD RX-7 would be a main car for a decade. Then F&F came out and people started bastardising them with horrible graphics and naaaaaaaawz.


I wonder what the "death rates" for each car (the number of examples trashed) were in the first 10 years of their lives, compared to the years since...
 
This is funny. You've barely even seen the car and obviously know jack **** about since you can't even say the chassis code right, and you're telling me how the car was used back in the 80's. You need to get off that island.
 
Chassis code... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I tend to say cars names to people. If I said "1986 Toyota Corolla", chances are more people would know what I was talking about that if I said "AE86" (wrongly, obviously...). Frankly anyone who spends their lives speaking in chassis codes really does need to get an actual life. It's almost as bad as teenage boys who know more about mountain bikes than their own language.

Add on the fact that I wasn't "telling you" how a car was used. I was "guessing" - note that I actually used that exact word. Personally, if I'd gone out and bought a brand new car in 1985 in the middle of a worldwide recession at, what £15,000, I wouldn't be driving it sideways.

Temper temper. Swearing is prohibited by the AUP you know.


What island?


I was originally just curious as to whether "AE86" was pronounced together, or individually. But still, that'll teach me to ask questions won't it?
 
Originally posted by TVRKing
Bu then you could afford the insurance on a TVR, as you wouldn't have to worry about spending extra money on rust repairs. ;)
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Bah to you! Only thing wrong with mah car is that it doesn't like the cold. So the solution is, don't drive it in the cold. Also it only had a little rust on the left rear wheel well thingy. Which was already treated when I got it. I paid nothing for it, so it's not a bad offer. :D
 
Race Idiot - So is that red MR2 yours? Class. Sorry, I don't know the chassis code, but I've always liked the Mk1 MR2.
 
No, I thought he was refering to my genuine 1982 Ford Escort 1.6 ghia. Which will be going sometime, but I don't drive it much anyway. I've always wanted a MK1 MR-2 since I was a kid, so I have a feeling that may be my next car in a year or so.
 
Originally posted by Race Idiot
No, I thought he was refering to my genuine 1982 Ford Escort 1.6 ghia. Which will be going sometime, but because I don't drive it much anyway. I've always wanted a MK1 MR-2 since I was a kid, so I have a feeling that may be my next car in a year or so.
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I've always been fond of them. The MR2, not the Escort... :D

My next car is probably going to be a Toyota Supra Twin Turbo (MkIV - 1995 or thereabouts), but I've become rather taken lately with the idea of a Honda NSX. It'll be a little pricier though. Mind you it's all 2 years down the road.

And I neither know, nor care, what the chassis codes for either are... :D
 
I can't help reffering to some cars as chassis codes. I'll blame too much reading the info pages on GT2 and Automodelista for only using the Chassis name for the car's. Also, most Japanese cars in most GT games have their chassis code in brakets next to their name.

So you want a Toyota JZA80, or a Honda NA2 (I think). :P
 
Originally posted by Race Idiot
I can't help reffering to some cars as chassis codes. I'll blame too much reading the info pages on GT2 and Automodelista for only using the Chassis name for the car's. Also, most Japanese cars in most GT games have their chassis code in brakets next to their name.

So you want a Toyota JZA80, or a Honda NA2 (I think). :P
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:D Class again... You and TVRKing should form a double act :D
 
In regards to the 'Trueno', I absolutely love it. Performance-wise it's not fantastic (In GT3) and for sure it was way exaggerated in Initial D, but as a real car I'd go to some extreme measures if I could own one. Heck I'd settle for an '87-'88 Celica which has an AE86-ish look.
To me it's an awesome, practical car.
 
In initial D they call it the AE Eight-Six, in the only episode I've ever seen of the show.


BTW, I think I forgot to mention that its was the last light AND inexpensive RWD GT ever produced. Sorry for all the confusion.


We get Corrolla GT-S' around here (Calgary, Alberta Canada) I see one once a month, they look exactly like the Sprinter Trueno. Mostly red and/or black ones, but never souped up. Its usually some early 20's mother with 2 kids, driving it, with half the door rusted right out. Muffler dragging on the ground as she leaves the Wal-Mart parking lot (I am drawing from memory here). It's rare to see a nice one.
 
Chassis codes are just plain easier to say most of the time. When talking about the whole 240sx/Silvia/180sx family it's just plain easier to say S13, S14, or S15

If I say Silvia, I'd have to mention a year or body style. If I just said S15 everyine would know what I'm talking about.
Chassis codes are more universal. You say the chassis code, everyone know's what you're talking about. In the North America we have the 240sx. Europe has the 200sx, and Japan has the Silvia and 180sx. We can just say S13 and loose all that extra words.

It's not because we're trying to "cool" by saying the chassis codes, it's just more convinient.
 
^i agree with battle stage, it really is more convenient to say the chassis code. if you say "corolla gt-s", people will be like wtf is that? but if you say eight-six, or AE86, people are like OHH YEAH thats from initial D...

and i say: "A-E Eighty-Six", and "Eight Six"

there's really nothing special about the 86, its just that initial D made it popular. ill agree, it is a pretty good base to start tuning from, but honestly, it's a peice of **** in stock form =\

there are people that have seen initial D that are gonna argue with me about that, but it's true. the stock trueno is a peice of **** =\

about 99% of people who say they LOOOOOVE the trueno only like it cuz of initial D, they would have never heard about it otherwise. im one of the people that this quote applies to, i forgot who said it: "i like the anime because of the car, i don't like the car cuz of the anime."
 
Note: everything I say is from what i've read on the net about japan, or seen with my eyes here in southern California, USA.

Whats "special" about the car is up until recently the car was rather cheap, and parts plentiful, in the California u can get an engine and tranny for $400!!!!

The japanese have done damn near everything to them so u can get them fairly powerful for the size and age.
it's a rather small and lightweight motor that seems to be pretty damn strong (pushed to extremes u can hit 240hp out of it without forced induction). Hell toyota STILL uses the same 4age block in the toyota atlantic cars TO THIS DAY!

I've never seen anyone until this forum say it had 50/50 weight distro, it doesn't, it's about 53/47.

In the US, until initial D became really popular, the only guys that new about them were the people that owned them, and they were damn cheap (between 800-$1500 at the highest price). so they were a great car to start out with for racing/drifting.

I have to admit I am a bit of a fan boy (I didn't know a damn thing about the car till initial D).

IMO, It WAS that they were cheap, and plentiful and LOTS of mods u can do to them which makes them "special." Along with the fact that well they are a blast to drive.
"This is not a fast car, it's a car that is driven fast." - I wish I can find who said that again :D

and finally if your going to whine at someone about the car because some people say it's "AE86" and not "A.E.8.6." then you SERIOUSLY need to find something better to do with your time... you still know what car they are talking about so give it a break, not to mention if u look at that code on the chassis many of us would prolly read it "ae86"....

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Originally posted by thedguy
and finally if your going to whine at someone about the car because some people say it's "AE86" and not "A.E.8.6." then you SERIOUSLY need to find something better to do with your time... you still know what car they are talking about so give it a break, not to mention if u look at that code on the chassis many of us would prolly read it "ae86"....
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It's called "curiosity". I would naturally say eighty-six, as the car was produced in 1985/86. But having seen "Hachi-roku" - and being a student of nihon-go - I was curious which is correct. It wasn't a "whine".

There is NO-ONE I know who would know what an AE86 is, but plenty who would recognise a "Corolla" - albeit in one of it's many guises.
 
That's like saying "Duh! If you don't know what CGH is, you're whining. Most molecular biologists will know what CGH is. Your common sense should tell you that the average Joe off the street will not." - and that's equally as patronising.
 

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