who likes the MX-5 anyway???

[Famine]

Yes, they were nice

At that point, Mazdaspeed weren't "in-house" as they are now - they were "just" a Mazda-modifying company. They were brought into Mazda in 1998. The three Mazdaspeed MX-5s from GT2 were aftermarket kits - the C-Spec was effectively a coupe version - for the Japanese Eunos Roadster.

If I got my hands on the MX-5 list, I'd not add them as a priority. I'd go for the M2 cars. M2 were fully in-house but their own branch - an M2 MX-5 isn't registered as a Mazda or Eunos, nor as an MX-5, Roadster or Miata, but as an M2 and the model name - and so rare that even MX-5 enthusiasts usually don't know about them. The M2 1008 is, simply, brilliant:

*rubs thighs*

If you get hold of an M2 anything you have an incredibly rare collector's piece on your hands.

 

[iNs3CuRe]

I personally as a drifter love the MX-5, but the thing that there is 30+- of them is stupid.

 

[Chico acsc]

Funny how a MX-5 "rant" thread has turned into a MX-5 appreciation one...

Guess that answers the OP's question...

I personally don't like the car (never driven one, though), but I agree it's an important one in the history of the automotive industry, as an affordable car that apparently offers a thrilling ride.

 

[Blitz24]

I really like the MX-5. Very good car to run with. Sure, its not the fastest car in the game but its pretty good in its own class.

 

[Sttrobe]

But the real question is, who doesn't like the MX-5?

 

[ZohsixGT5]

Lord, forgive BMWM52012, for he know not what he sayeth.

 

[DGXR]

I agree with many others here... I can see 5, 6 or 7 varieties of a car but PD has gone overboard with the Mazda MX-5 (and the Nissan GT-R34/R35, and the Sylvia/180/240). Just too much time and resources put into one model instead of making a variety other makes/models available to play in the game.

 

[CodeRedR51]

To properly represent MX-5s you would need, at minimum:
NA 1.6 (1989-1998)
NA 1.8 (1994-1998)
NB 1.6 (1998-2001)
NB 1.8 (1998-2001)
NB.5 1.6 (2001-2005)
NB.5 1.8 (2001-2005)
NC 1.8 (2005-2009)
NC 2.0 (2005-2009)
NC PRHT 1.8 (2006-2009)
NC PRHT 2.0 (2006-2009)
NC.5 1.8 (2009-)
NC.5 2.0 (2009-)
NC.5 PRHT 1.8 (2009-)
NC.5 PRHT 2.0 (2009-)

.....and the North American Miata-only Mazdaspeed 1.8 turbo (180hp).

I would add to that the Mazdaspeed you mention above (which is actually 170hp), as well as the super rare but certainly worthy 2003 Coupe.

 

[Famine]

I agree with many others here... I can see 5, 6 or 7 varieties of a car but PD has gone overboard with the Mazda MX-5 (and the Nissan GT-R34/R35, and the Sylvia/180/240). Just too much time and resources put into one model instead of making a variety other makes/models available to play in the game.

Nope. First of all I already explained why they're there and it's nothing to do with time/effort. Secondly, if they weren't there there is no guarantee of other cars being there instead. Every car in GT5 has had to be found, modelled and, crucially, licensed - any "replacement" car would need to also be found, modelled and licensed.

I would add to that the Mazdaspeed you mention above (which is actually 170hp), as well as the super rare but certainly worthy 2003 Coupe.

Direct descendant of the M2-1008 That was an NA, though the RS Coupe was an NB.

 

[Super T]

Personally I love the little roadsters, have raced a group of guys from an MX5 owners club every Monday night for well over a year now.

Have driven a couple but unfortunately never owned one, might track an NA down when I move my current Mini on, have been itching to get my hands on one for years and that's only got worse since I've started spending time with an owners club.

My only annoyance with there being so many of them is trying to make sure I've parked one of each in my GT garage... Thanks to Famine for the explanation as to why there's so many. 👍

 

[Tvensky]

They are FR and that's a good thing, but it would be enough only with one or two of them

 

[CodeRedR51]

They are FR and that's a good thing, but it would be enough only with one or two of them

Then you wouldn't cover every significant model.

 

[Tvensky]

Then you wouldn't cover every significant model.

I know what your'e on about, but than again PD should make every significant model for every car in game. But I do honestly understand people complaining about MX-5, they are too much in the game, just like skylines. At least they should create more easy UCD browsing - like select "skyline" or "MX-5" and it just shows all available models to choose from.. this browsing model is very difficult for people who dont know much about MX-5, I usually choose the best possible car from the category (fastest, best looking, most fun to drive etc.) and don't buy any other so my garage dont get into chaos.

 

[MSTER232]

I like the Miata just not the amount that are in the game.

I may not be a fan of this car but It's okay. Just dislike how many are in the game. That is all...

On that subject, I've lost count of how many MX-5 / Miata models there are in GT5. I agree that there are too many duplicates of the same car.

It's arguably one of the best cars ever made.

Yes the number of variations in the game is a bit much, but it's a large part of Japanese motoring history and this game is made by a Japanese company. Go figure.

Playboy MX-5 Cup and the mother of them all: SCCA/NASA Spec Miata. Doesn't look like you live in the USA so you wouldn't know these series.

Just out of interest, your avatar is a MX-5 ...

EDIT:

I forget which thread, but I saw a picture of the results screen for a guy that won the Laguna Seca endurance race (I think thats the one) with a Daihatsu Midget. That's where this needs to go^

I claim hacks .

 

[dhandeh]

I believe most people agree that there are too many in the game, but they certainly are fun to drive. And a race at Tsukuba, just isn't the same without a MX-5 trundling round the track.

 

[Famine]

On that subject, I've lost count of how many MX-5 / Miata models there are in GT5. I agree that there are too many duplicates of the same car.

Luckily, I posted it when I was telling everyone why there are that many.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Just out of interest, your avatar is a MX-5 ...

So?

I think we've already made the point that, yes, there are too many. However, the following list would cover just about every important model:

NA 1.6 (1989-1998)
NA 1.8 (1994-1998)
NB 1.6 (1998-2001)
NB 1.8 (1998-2001)
NB.5 1.6 (2001-2005)
NB.5 1.8 (2001-2005)
NB Coupe (2003)
NB Mazdaspeed (2004-2005)
NC 1.8 (2005-2009)
NC 2.0 (2005-2009)
NC PRHT 1.8 (2006-2009)
NC PRHT 2.0 (2006-2009)
NC.5 1.8 (2009-)
NC.5 2.0 (2009-)
NC.5 PRHT 1.8 (2009-)
NC.5 PRHT 2.0 (2009-)

Then TC models could just be RM packages. And this list doesn't include any important racecar models.

 

[Tornado]

NB.5...

Is that when Mazda start putting 6 speeds in them?

 

[Famine]

Umm... Yes and no. The first 6 speed was the '99 10AE (NB), which is still my favourite. The NB.5 was the (March) 2001 update which was mostly facelift but some mechanicals too - mild engine upgrade, VVT, some additional chassis strength and, yes, some models got 6 speeds.

There's certainly enough of a difference between them to justify two separate models. Well, four (1.6 and 1.8 of each).

 

[Mac K]

Famine appears to have a fetish

 

[grrlpurple]

I think the problem in GT5 is that a lot of the MX-5/Miata's are duplicates, the same car but with a different name depending on the geographical area. We could certainly do without those... having said that, it is a really sweet little roadster and handles like a dream

 

[Famine]

Famine appears to have a fetish

Indeed. I've owned an NA MX-5 Berkeley ('98) and an NB MX-5 1.8i base ('98) and I have a picture around here somewhere of me driving a Max5 spec NA MX-5 Merlot ('95) around the RAF Woodbridge airfield track. I nearly bought an NB 10AE ('99) in 2007 but the drainage channels had been blocked for ages and ruined the shelf carpet and let in a bit of tinworm that I didn't want to deal with - it was a good price and if it'd had the original certificate pack and watch, I'd have bought it. I've also been a member of MX5OC (Eastern Region, Yorkshire and Humber and Tyne Tees).

When funds allow, there'll be another on the drive NEVER an NC though. Funds need to go on my two MX-3s first...

 

[Tornado]

Umm... Yes and no. The first 6 speed was the '99 10AE (NB), which is still my favourite. The NB.5 was the (March) 2001 update which was mostly facelift but some mechanicals too - mild engine upgrade, VVT, some additional chassis strength and, yes, some models got 6 speeds.

There's certainly enough of a difference between them to justify two separate models. Well, four (1.6 and 1.8 of each).

Ah. Must have been thinking for the NA market. My mistake.

NEVER an NC though.

Because Focus, right? I think I remember correctly.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Umm... Yes and no. The first 6 speed was the '99 10AE (NB), which is still my favourite.

Doesn't matter, the 6-speeds suck anyway.

 

[X-Power]

The MX-5 information is interesting, does GT5 model these differences?

 

[byegad]

Obviously you overlooked the Skylines, RX-7s and S2000s.

Yes there are a lot of them. Frankly I've bought almost all the cars available, 1150 and counting, and am buying a second and even third example of 'nicer' cars. I won't be buying duplicates of any of the above. The many variants are so similar and I can't be bothered to run a couple of dozen near identical cars to decide which is the better one. When i needed one for a race I picked the first one and improved it as far as necessary to be able to win the races. Very boring really.

 

[dhandeh]

Is there one definitive model of MX-5 or is it down to personal preference? A bit like the F40 or BMW E30 M3.

 

[Famine]

The MX-5 information is interesting, does GT5 model these differences?

Not fully. Well, not much, to be honest. I mean, the part where there is no such thing as a Miata/MX-5 J-Limited (or any of the other models, except the base NA '89) is pretty significant.

There were the occasional 10kg differences in PAL MX-5s compared to NTSC-J Roadsters in GT4, but this doesn't seem to be reflected in GT5's stats.

Is there one definitive model of MX-5 or is it down to personal preference? A bit like the F40 or BMW E30 M3.

If I were to pick one it'd be the '91 NA MX-5 Le Mans. If I were allowed a second, it'd be the '99 NB MX-5/Roadster/Miata 10AE (one of the few cross-market nameplates). Allowed five... a base NA MX-5 '89 (in Classic Red), a Mazdaspeed NB Miata and the M2-1008.

I asked my wife and she said her one definitive '5 would be a base MX-5 NA in Classic Red and her second would be an NB MX-5, "probably one of the special editions". Close enough

 

[dhandeh]

Personal preference then!

 

[Famine]

Well... we both went for an NA 1.6 first and an NB 1.8 second I just picked a 1.6 turbo special edition first, while we both had an NB 1.8 special edition second. Without discussion either

Pretty close, I'd say.