who's Lewis Hamilton's team mate next year?

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He's a rookie.

A) They offered 17mil, not 40mil.

B) What kind of mortage do you expect him to pay? He's on the road all the time, and it's not like the salary from McLaren will remain at $250k. It is safe to assue he'll earn at least 5 millions next year at McLaren, after such a performance.
 
He's a rookie.

A) They offered 17mil, not 40mil.

B) What kind of mortage do you expect him to pay? He's on the road all the time, and it's not like the salary from McLaren will remain at $250k. It is safe to assue he'll earn at least 5 millions next year at McLaren, after such a performance.

Yes, he might only get $250k from McLaren, but i'm sure he's already making many times more through sponsorship deals.
 
One thing is sure - he's not lacking money.

As for next year, yes - I assume he will stay at McLaren, because even if Ferrari bids higher, he's been at McLaren almost half his life, and throughout his career. That does mean something...
 
I doubt any F1 driver would have trouble with money, even if they weren't in F1. It's not exactly a sport for poor people.

Didn't Lewis's dad work 3 jobs just to put him through Karting in the early days?
 
Yes, he was Lewis Hamilton's Manager, Lewis Hamilton's Accountant and Lewis Hamilton's Agent...
 
Didn't Lewis's dad work 3 jobs just to put him through Karting in the early days?
Really? I didn't know that. But still, F1 in general is an elitist sport. If Lewis wanted to be a fooball player his father wouldn't have to work so hard for that.
 
EDIT: Spike, what's the bet McLaren up the ante for Hamilton next year? There's isn't one. Hamilton's proved he's got what it takes and while he might be racing for such a paltry sum this year, you can bet the bookkeepers at McLaren will be throwing money at him next year. Ferrari might want him to drive for them, but surely they'd be expecting a fight from Ron Dennis ...

I would expect McLaren to raise his pay before Hamilton or his father etc even so much as hint it. Hamilton definitely won't be in red next season, and I can't see him in read for a long time if at all
 
Bullseye. Alonso has a very good reason to be angry. The entire thing is so ridiculous, Hamilton being the golden boy of Dennis up to the point in which I began wondering if he is actually some close relative. Sure, Hamilton looks like a champ now but then again, what would have happened if, for example, the Finnish rookie (surely as hell I'm being biased here) Heikki Kovalainen had been given the best car in the series, using the stolen info from the former top Bridgestone team and built specifically for his driving style while completely ignoring the teammate? He would be leading the championship, no doubt. Turn it the other way, what if Hamilton was driving a Spyker? Nobody would know he even exists.

Plenty of good rookies have hopped straight into their season's top car. None of them has ever matched Hamilton's achievements in the first half of their season. There's no reason to suspect that Kovalainen, or Rosberg, or any other rookie would have won three races and be championship leader at this point in their first season if they had been in the Mc, especially when their team mate is Alonso. We'd probably be impressed with a handful of podiums and the occasional spin. I know I certainly didn't expect more than that from Hamilton. He's really that good, and we're watching him make history. If Hamilton had started the season in a Spyker, there's no reason not to think that he would have made as big an impression as Senna did in a Toleman or Scummy did in a Jordan. Kovalainen might have been leading the championship at this point in a McLaren. More likely, he would be lying fourth like most rookies would be.

By the way, where did you read that the McLaren was designed specifically for Hamilton?
 
In my eyes it doesn't matter if your a rookie or a world champ several times over, you still need to get the job done in that car your given. Hamilton's done it well, and Kovalainen isn't doing to bad.
I can't see either of them leaving in the near future. This season or next.
Alonso should fight for the right to be called number one rather than just moan about 'how he is the least favoured in a team'. Hes a good driver, you don't become 2 times world champion for nothing, but he needs to show hes a champion and pull some results out of the bag.
 
In my eyes it doesn't matter if your a rookie or a world champ several times over, you still need to get the job done in that car your given. Hamilton's done it well, and Kovalainen isn't doing to bad.
I can't see either of them leaving in the near future. This season or next.
Alonso should fight for the right to be called number one rather than just moan about 'how he is the least favoured in a team'. Hes a good driver, you don't become 2 times world champion for nothing, but he needs to show hes a champion and pull some results out of the bag.

I would only add the if Alonso cannot pull some results out of the bag he should not be blaming anyone else.
 
Plenty of good rookies have hopped straight into their season's top car. None of them has ever matched Hamilton's achievements in the first half of their season. There's no reason to suspect that Kovalainen, or Rosberg, or any other rookie would have won three races and be championship leader at this point in their first season if they had been in the Mc, especially when their team mate is Alonso. We'd probably be impressed with a handful of podiums and the occasional spin. I know I certainly didn't expect more than that from Hamilton. He's really that good, and we're watching him make history. If Hamilton had started the season in a Spyker, there's no reason not to think that he would have made as big an impression as Senna did in a Toleman or Scummy did in a Jordan. Kovalainen might have been leading the championship at this point in a McLaren. More likely, he would be lying fourth like most rookies would be.

By the way, where did you read that the McLaren was designed specifically for Hamilton?

can u tell me some rookies that have had decent f1 careers that stepped into the top (or a top 2 car) in there first year?
i beleive people need to stop calling hamilton a rookie, as has been said before, he was practically bred by mclaren to do this, no other person in the world has had that sort of opportunity, he spent more hours on the mclaren simulator than any other person ever, so its not like the tracks are that unfamiliar to him, also he has been using alonsos set ups. sure the kid is good, but the media blows everything out of proportion and only reports the great acheivments this so called "rookie" is making. frankly he should have an asterix against his name for any acheivments he makes in his first year. there is a reason that so many f1 know it alls were prediciting him to do well, maybe not this well, but very well. thats because he has been givin every opportunity in a silver platter. and as far as i know, it took him many times in other formulas to make his mark, not gp2, but series before that.

screw hamilton, little spoilt brat. should of been given a test seat or a spyker. and some humble pie.
 
can u tell me some rookies that have had decent f1 careers that stepped into the top (or a top 2 car) in there first year?
i beleive people need to stop calling hamilton a rookie, as has been said before, he was practically bred by mclaren to do this, no other person in the world has had that sort of opportunity, he spent more hours on the mclaren simulator than any other person ever, so its not like the tracks are that unfamiliar to him, also he has been using alonsos set ups. sure the kid is good, but the media blows everything out of proportion and only reports the great acheivments this so called "rookie" is making. frankly he should have an asterix against his name for any acheivments he makes in his first year. there is a reason that so many f1 know it alls were prediciting him to do well, maybe not this well, but very well. thats because he has been givin every opportunity in a silver platter. and as far as i know, it took him many times in other formulas to make his mark, not gp2, but series before that.

screw hamilton, little spoilt brat. should of been given a test seat or a spyker. and some humble pie.

I sort of agree with the above. He's in the best car really, and he been using Alonso's set ups.

It's also worth noting that it's Alonso's first year on Bridgestones, and from my understanding, Alonso has had to modify his technique from his sharp late apex turn-in to a more different cornering technique. The whole Bridgestone thing may also explain why Kimi is not completely dominating Massa. Then again that's just my theory and I may very well be wrong.
 
Alonso may have had to adapt to a new type of tyre, but Hamilton had to adapt to an entirely different series… At least Alonso knew how to deal with race distances, with the qualifying format, with an entire race weekend worth of sessions, etc.

Sure, Hamilton has been given everything he needs to succeed, but he is beating his team mate completely on merit.
 
i dont beleive hamilton would have had to addapt to anything the way other rookies would have had to, other than maybe race distances, but the drivers these days are so fit it would be ridiculous to think they could not handle an f1 distanced race. plus, im sure they drive for just as long on most tests, as most races go for anywho, possibly longer. frankly i dont think hamilton had to addapt nearly as much as a rookie as say rosberg would have had to last year. the only thing i think hamilton would of had to be ready for is the media circus that was going to surround him when he started doing well, as was innevitable with the prepperation mclaren gave him. he handled it well at the start, but now i think his true colours are coming through, and he is coming accross arrogant and spoilt.
 
can u tell me some rookies that have had decent f1 careers that stepped into the top (or a top 2 car) in there first year?
i beleive people need to stop calling hamilton a rookie, as has been said before, he was practically bred by mclaren to do this, no other person in the world has had that sort of opportunity, he spent more hours on the mclaren simulator than any other person ever, so its not like the tracks are that unfamiliar to him, also he has been using alonsos set ups. sure the kid is good, but the media blows everything out of proportion and only reports the great acheivments this so called "rookie" is making. frankly he should have an asterix against his name for any acheivments he makes in his first year. there is a reason that so many f1 know it alls were prediciting him to do well, maybe not this well, but very well. thats because he has been givin every opportunity in a silver platter. and as far as i know, it took him many times in other formulas to make his mark, not gp2, but series before that.

screw hamilton, little spoilt brat. should of been given a test seat or a spyker. and some humble pie.

Coulthard's the most obvious one, but I believe that Verstappen and Herbert also stepped into top cars for their first season. Button and Montoya stepped into competive but not championship winning cars. Villeneuve had a particularly good first year in the top car and a long F1 career thereafter, and became champion in his second season, after coming close to winning the first. Jim Clark stepped straight into the fastest car on the grid, and may have done a Hamilton if hadn't have had reliability problems. So did Fangio. And yet it's Hamilton who is setting all the rookie records.

But Villeneuve was already a world champion in CART, and did more testing miles in a Williams F1 car prior to his first season than he actually did racing miles in the season itself. Last time I checked, a simulator couldn't generate 4G on two axes or simulate a double world champion trying to outbrake you into turn 1. Villeneuve also spent many hours on Grand Prix learning the circuits. I'd be surprised if any modern driver doesn't get plenty of hours on some kind of simulator before arriving at a new circuit, since drivers have been doing exactly that for 15 years. There's no excuse not to.

The media only reports the great achievements he's made because that's all he has done. I don't know about the rest of the world's media, but you can be utterly sure that the British press will jump at any oppertunity to shoot Hamilton down when he screws up. They love nothing more than knocking their country's sporting heroes off pedestals. It sells papers, I suppose.

Hamilton certainly has been groomed for this role in a public manner since he was a small child, but how many modern F1 drivers haven't lived racing since the age of 6? The last successful F1 driver I can think of who wasn't driving karts as soon as he could walk was Damon Hill. He started on bikes. Of course, I might be overlooking someone. But you seem to be saying that Hamilton's so good because he's been groomed. I'd suggest it's the other way around. Hamilton's been groomed because he's so good, and always has been. Few people reach the top of their sporting profession without serious dedication and Preparation. Scummy himself was famous for going the extra mile in fitness, car preparation and setup, pre race planning. Does that make his achievements any less impressive?

If he's been using Alonso's setups, why is his car so loose at the rear? Alonso prefers an understeering setup, which would only make Hamilton slower. This is Hamilton's first season in a Formula 1 car. That makes him a rookie. And he's a rookie who is leading the world championship, in a season where 4 drivers have a good chance of winning the title. When was the last time the title was a four way battle? And yet it's the rookie, in an identical car to the current double world champion, who is coming out on top. Noone has ever done better in their first half year.

The other new drivers in the field, people like Rosberg, Kovalainen, Kubica etc are all doing OK, but the top teams aren't tripping over themselves to sign them, like they were with Senna, Prost and Scummy when they were doing amazing things in average cars. If Hamilton had started in a BMW or Renault, or Toleman, would he be doing a Senna? Or would he be doing a Rosberg? We'll never know, because he's not paired with them. He is, however, paired with Alonso, who had the measure of Schumacher in the end, and is still managing to shine. Somehow I doubt he'd look ordinary in a lesser car.
 
I sort of agree with the above. He's in the best car really, and he been using Alonso's set ups.
So said the Spanish rags several races ago... although frankly that just makes it look worse for Alonso, as he would then be beaten by a rookie, using the same car, same set-up, on tracks and race conditions the rookie has never had to deal with. Sometimes the Spanish media and Alonso himself use excuses that actually end up making Alonso look even worse.


As Only_in_f1 and others have said before, a driver should indeed prove, on the track, that they are indeed No.1 rather than just whine about everything, blame everybody, and stop acting like Veruca Salt demanding everyone's respect and feeling entitled to the championship.


Alonso better make some serious changes in his life and his attitude as he is destroying what looked to be a brilliant F1 legacy. He was glorious in 2005, he started to come off as a real pisser and Prima Donna in 2006, almost acting like they should have crowned him champion after just the first nine races. This year his attitude has only gotten worse. If he keeps this up, the only fans he is going to have left are those landlocked just West of the Pyrenees.
 
His results are far from dismal, and for that reason it seems downright foolish that he would leave Mclaren, I can't see him doing it but if he really wants to quit because he thinks his team mate receives preferencial treatment, then it will be his ego which is his downfall, I doubt it is really the reason he said he is unhappy at Mclaren, so it is hard to say whether he is being foolish or being reasonable.
 
Coulthard's the most obvious one, but I believe that Verstappen and Herbert also stepped into top cars for their first season. Button and Montoya stepped into competive but not championship winning cars. Villeneuve had a particularly good first year in the top car and a long F1 career thereafter, and became champion in his second season, after coming close to winning the first. Jim Clark stepped straight into the fastest car on the grid, and may have done a Hamilton if hadn't have had reliability problems. So did Fangio. And yet it's Hamilton who is setting all the rookie records.

But Villeneuve was already a world champion in CART, and did more testing miles in a Williams F1 car prior to his first season than he actually did racing miles in the season itself. Last time I checked, a simulator couldn't generate 4G on two axes or simulate a double world champion trying to outbrake you into turn 1. Villeneuve also spent many hours on Grand Prix learning the circuits. I'd be surprised if any modern driver doesn't get plenty of hours on some kind of simulator before arriving at a new circuit, since drivers have been doing exactly that for 15 years. There's no excuse not to.

The media only reports the great achievements he's made because that's all he has done. I don't know about the rest of the world's media, but you can be utterly sure that the British press will jump at any oppertunity to shoot Hamilton down when he screws up. They love nothing more than knocking their country's sporting heroes off pedestals. It sells papers, I suppose.

Hamilton certainly has been groomed for this role in a public manner since he was a small child, but how many modern F1 drivers haven't lived racing since the age of 6? The last successful F1 driver I can think of who wasn't driving karts as soon as he could walk was Damon Hill. He started on bikes. Of course, I might be overlooking someone. But you seem to be saying that Hamilton's so good because he's been groomed. I'd suggest it's the other way around. Hamilton's been groomed because he's so good, and always has been. Few people reach the top of their sporting profession without serious dedication and Preparation. Scummy himself was famous for going the extra mile in fitness, car preparation and setup, pre race planning. Does that make his achievements any less impressive?

If he's been using Alonso's setups, why is his car so loose at the rear? Alonso prefers an understeering setup, which would only make Hamilton slower. This is Hamilton's first season in a Formula 1 car. That makes him a rookie. And he's a rookie who is leading the world championship, in a season where 4 drivers have a good chance of winning the title. When was the last time the title was a four way battle? And yet it's the rookie, in an identical car to the current double world champion, who is coming out on top. Noone has ever done better in their first half year.

The other new drivers in the field, people like Rosberg, Kovalainen, Kubica etc are all doing OK, but the top teams aren't tripping over themselves to sign them, like they were with Senna, Prost and Scummy when they were doing amazing things in average cars. If Hamilton had started in a BMW or Renault, or Toleman, would he be doing a Senna? Or would he be doing a Rosberg? We'll never know, because he's not paired with them. He is, however, paired with Alonso, who had the measure of Schumacher in the end, and is still managing to shine. Somehow I doubt he'd look ordinary in a lesser car.

well u certainly showed me. but it doesnt mean i have to like him. and i stand by my humble pie comment.
 
Nor would i but its his reaction when he doesn't do well, he seems to have to blame others.
Very few racing drivers ever blame themselves publicly if they can avoid it. Ever seen post-race NASCAR interviews?
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Alonso better make some serious changes in his life and his attitude as he is destroying what looked to be a brilliant F1 legacy. He was glorious in 2005, he started to come off as a real pisser and Prima Donna in 2006, almost acting like they should have crowned him champion after just the first nine races. This year his attitude has only gotten worse.
Last year was a bizzare season of unprecedented penalties, rulings, and rule "clarifications", to both Alonso and Schumacher. It would be hard to keep a level head when your qualifying time is thrown out because you were "blocking", 1000 feet ahead of Felipe Massa...in Italy.

Some media portray Alonso as a cancer, but rarely has a negative word been said about him by his previous teams and/or teammates.
 
i seriously can't see Lewis at Mclaren forever...money talks you know and relationship changes. I know where i'd be going if Ferrari offered me a 1000% pay rise. It's like Kimi, people thought he'd stay at Mclaren until the end of his career...
 
I was going to agree with much of what you were trying to say until here...

It would be hard to keep a level head when your qualifying time is thrown out because you were "blocking", 1000 feet ahead of Felipe Massa...in Italy.
What a terrible example, and surprised you'd dig it up even. Unless you think F1 cars are 333' long. ;)

Not only was Alonso as close as three car lengths, at race speeds, and five car lengths on the straights going over 180 mph and only about 1-2 seconds ahead of Masa for most of the lap... but I'm sure you also know how much aerodynamics play a role in F1 these days, and how F1 cars set-up for qualifying are negatively impacted by dirty air. Alonso knew the rule, he knew where Masa was, and on a out lap he had to let Masa pass.

The fact that he got so pissy about it - despite an investigation that proved he had broken the rule. I mean really, did Alonso forget that the cars all have tracking devices that record their precise locations on the track at all times... it's not like the Stewards could only base their judgment by watching the TV coverage with the cockpit camera footage that offers no realistic perspective to the real distance between cars. Alonso was in the wrong, he was found guilty, and he was punished... please don't resurrect this dead horse by modifying the facts to justify Alonso's poor attitude.

He had a lot of personal issues last year, with F1, Ferrari, even his own team. He even went so far as to publicly insult Schumacher on more than one occasions, and made other public statements saying there was no sport left in F1 and that F1 was doing all they could to give Schummy another championship, and that he might quit F1 altogether... that pretty much is all anyone needs to know about where Alonso's head is at, and his blameless self deserving attitude.

You know, the more you defend him, the more I realize how incredibly disappointed, as a fan of F1, I am with Alonso. While I would miss the fierce competitiveness and pure talent he often displays on the track, considering how bad things have gotten, I know find myself wishing he had followed through with his threat last year of quitting F1. :indiff:



Some media portray Alonso as a cancer, but rarely has a negative word been said about him by his previous teams and/or teammates.
Oh how quickly they forget. ;)
 
but I'm sure you also know how much aerodynamics play a role in F1 these days, and how F1 cars set-up for qualifying are negatively impacted by dirty air. Alonso knew the rule, he knew where Masa was, and on a out lap he had to let Masa pass.
The stewards penalized him for blocking. On that particular lap, Alonso's only, ONLY goal was to beat the clock; he was trying to get one more flying lap. "Blocking" is an intentional impediment to an opponent's progress. Nobody would argue that Alonso was trying to hold Massa up, nor was he close enough to warrant a blue flag. This "dirty air" nonsense was arglebargle. In a shared qualifying session, nobody gets clean air. Also, anyone who feels entitled to clean air in a shared qualifying session is deluding themselves. At Monza, 10 cars can be separated by no more that 1900 feet. That's enough to see the car in front of you, which could be argued as being a distraction and an impediment. Aerodynamicists would also argue that any car on the same track disturbs the air. A car in Parabolica could cause another car at Lesmos to fly off the track (and a typhoon to hit Madagascar)...a valid argument in engineering terms, but a stupid one in racing terms.
Digital Nitrate
He had a lot of personal issues last year, with F1, Ferrari, even his own team. He even went so far as to publicly insult Schumacher on more than one occasions, and made other public statements saying there was no sport left in F1 and that F1 was doing all they could to give Schummy another championship.
Given the FIA's history with decisions that benefited M.Schumacher and Ferrari from 2000-2004, it wasn't that far of a reach to assume that Michael would get the benefit of the doubt in what was widely regarded to be his last season (even before he officially announced his departure).

Alonso publicly berated Renault last year on more than one occasion. While he shouldn't have said these things to the press, nothing he said was without merit. First, he accused the team of not being behind him. In 1995, Michael was on his way to Ferrari, and Flavio Briatore made it clear that he did not want to see the #1 decal on another team's car. I doubt that Flav has mellowed in the last 10 years and felt very differently, knowing that Alonso was gone at the end of the season one way or the other. Secondly, Fernando accused the team of not giving it their all. This is something that no driver should EVER say to the press, but again, basic observation validated his point whether he should have said it or not. After the mass-damper ban, Renault never seemed to regain that pace. A world-champion team surely would be able to recover the 0.3s they lost with the reneging of this part. Renault never seemed to recover from that. They weren't the highest-funded team on the grid, but they certainly had the people and the resources to work around it in the final 8 weeks of the season. Also, nary a race went by when you didn't see the Renault mechanics horsing around in the garage. A fun bunch for sure, but maybe the professionalism could have been knocked up a notch. I thought that Alonso and McLaren would be a perfect match, as both are undeniably dedicated to winning.
Digital Nitrate
You know, the more you defend him, the more I realize how incredibly disappointed, as a fan of F1, I am with Alonso. While I would miss the fierce competitiveness and pure talent he often displays on the track, considering how bad things have gotten, I know find myself wishing he had followed through with his threat last year of quitting F1. :indiff:
Alonso is 26 years old. He's young. All young people are fiercely competitive, passionate, and somewhat immature. Let's not forget that a 28 year-old Michael Schumacher tried to win the championship by ramming Jacques Villeneuve off the road at Jerez.
Digital Nitrate
Oh how quickly they forget. ;)
F1 drivers are notorious for being outspoken. If Jarno Trulli and Giancarlo Fischella had anything bad to say about Fernando, they'd have done it already. Flavio Briatore is anything but quiet, and he hasn't said much, either.

I have made it no secret that I am a huge Fernando Alonso fan (his maiden-victory R23 sits underneath a spotlight on this very desk), but I will not blindly defend everything that he does and says. A fair amount of what he says should be kept to himself, even if there is truth to it. He shouldn't have made a public spectacle with Massa at the Nurburgring. He should not have accused Renault of sabotaging his championship run last year. His "I only have three people to thank" speech after his championship-clinching race in Brazil 2005 was perplexing. Nevertheless, Fernando is one of the most successful and purely-talented drivers in the world. His championships and race victories speak for themselves. He is being paid ~$30 million to win the championship for McLaren, and for this amount, it is not unfair to assume that the team would be more supportive than they have been.

In 2001, Renault was mid-pack on the best of days. In 2002, they hired Fernando to be their primary test driver. In 2003, they won two pole positions and a race. In 2005, they won both championships. Dislike the man if you want, but there is no denying the value he can bring to a team. With the insanity surrounding Lewis Hamilton, McLaren is not gaining the full benefit of having Alonso on the team. That should bother them, but it clearly doesn't.
 
Coulthard's the most obvious one, but I believe that Verstappen and Herbert also stepped into top cars for their first season. Button and Montoya stepped into competive but not championship winning cars. Villeneuve had a particularly good first year in the top car and a long F1 career thereafter, and became champion in his second season, after coming close to winning the first. Jim Clark stepped straight into the fastest car on the grid, and may have done a Hamilton if hadn't have had reliability problems. So did Fangio. And yet it's Hamilton who is setting all the rookie records.

But Villeneuve was already a world champion in CART, and did more testing miles in a Williams F1 car prior to his first season than he actually did racing miles in the season itself. Last time I checked, a simulator couldn't generate 4G on two axes or simulate a double world champion trying to outbrake you into turn 1. Villeneuve also spent many hours on Grand Prix learning the circuits. I'd be surprised if any modern driver doesn't get plenty of hours on some kind of simulator before arriving at a new circuit, since drivers have been doing exactly that for 15 years. There's no excuse not to.

The media only reports the great achievements he's made because that's all he has done. I don't know about the rest of the world's media, but you can be utterly sure that the British press will jump at any oppertunity to shoot Hamilton down when he screws up. They love nothing more than knocking their country's sporting heroes off pedestals. It sells papers, I suppose.

Hamilton certainly has been groomed for this role in a public manner since he was a small child, but how many modern F1 drivers haven't lived racing since the age of 6? The last successful F1 driver I can think of who wasn't driving karts as soon as he could walk was Damon Hill. He started on bikes. Of course, I might be overlooking someone. But you seem to be saying that Hamilton's so good because he's been groomed. I'd suggest it's the other way around. Hamilton's been groomed because he's so good, and always has been. Few people reach the top of their sporting profession without serious dedication and Preparation. Scummy himself was famous for going the extra mile in fitness, car preparation and setup, pre race planning. Does that make his achievements any less impressive?

If he's been using Alonso's setups, why is his car so loose at the rear? Alonso prefers an understeering setup, which would only make Hamilton slower. This is Hamilton's first season in a Formula 1 car. That makes him a rookie. And he's a rookie who is leading the world championship, in a season where 4 drivers have a good chance of winning the title. When was the last time the title was a four way battle? And yet it's the rookie, in an identical car to the current double world champion, who is coming out on top. Noone has ever done better in their first half year.

The other new drivers in the field, people like Rosberg, Kovalainen, Kubica etc are all doing OK, but the top teams aren't tripping over themselves to sign them, like they were with Senna, Prost and Scummy when they were doing amazing things in average cars. If Hamilton had started in a BMW or Renault, or Toleman, would he be doing a Senna? Or would he be doing a Rosberg? We'll never know, because he's not paired with them. He is, however, paired with Alonso, who had the measure of Schumacher in the end, and is still managing to shine. Somehow I doubt he'd look ordinary in a lesser car.

+1. Hamilton came from the same pool as Rosberg and all the others... the only difference being that he was so publicly supported by McLaren through his career... but only after he'd proven himself in racing at a young age, and catching Dennis' eye.

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Another notable from CART who went straight to a strong car was Alex Zanardi... who just couldn't get to grips with his car, and was outpaced by Ralf Schumacher (embarrasing) and eventually replaced by Button... shame, as he did well in F3000 and won the CART championship twice... earning a reputation for being an amazing overtaker. Here was a guy who had great experience working open-wheelers that were nearly as fast as F1s (more power, less grip, I believe), but he couldn't make a dent. Juan Pablo made a better go of it, but he couldn't cut it either, by the end.

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And I'd like to point out... arrogance comes with the territory. These guys are competitive and brash... you don't get to the top by saying "Thank you, please..." and rolling over for the other guy. I don't remember M.Schumacher ever being praised for his sportsmanship... :lol:

There are nice guys out there... but on the track, it's all "me.me.me.me..."... it's just out in public, some guys know how to put a better game face on than others.
 
I wonder if this may be getting to Hamilton's head, the success... He's apparently dumped his girlfriend (whom he said he wouldn't move to another country without) and been spotted messing about with another girl in a pretty close fashion on some beach. Reportedly looking at properties in Monaco, and even his brother has said he's worried it's suddenly starting to get to his head

If true...could be slightly worrying
 
The stewards penalized him for blocking. On that particular lap, Alonso's only, ONLY goal was to beat the clock; he was trying to get one more flying lap. "Blocking" is an intentional impediment to an opponent's progress. Nobody would argue that Alonso was trying to hold Massa up, nor was he close enough to warrant a blue flag. This "dirty air" nonsense was arglebargle. In a shared qualifying session, nobody gets clean air. Also, anyone who feels entitled to clean air in a shared qualifying session is deluding themselves. At Monza, 10 cars can be separated by no more that 1900 feet. That's enough to see the car in front of you, which could be argued as being a distraction and an impediment. Aerodynamicists would also argue that any car on the same track disturbs the air. A car in Parabolica could cause another car at Lesmos to fly off the track (and a typhoon to hit Madagascar)...a valid argument in engineering terms, but a stupid one in racing terms.

Given the FIA's history with decisions that benefited M.Schumacher and Ferrari from 2000-2004, it wasn't that far of a reach to assume that Michael would get the benefit of the doubt in what was widely regarded to be his last season (even before he officially announced his departure).

Alonso publicly berated Renault last year on more than one occasion. While he shouldn't have said these things to the press, nothing he said was without merit. First, he accused the team of not being behind him. In 1995, Michael was on his way to Ferrari, and Flavio Briatore made it clear that he did not want to see the #1 decal on another team's car. I doubt that Flav has mellowed in the last 10 years and felt very differently, knowing that Alonso was gone at the end of the season one way or the other. Secondly, Fernando accused the team of not giving it their all. This is something that no driver should EVER say to the press, but again, basic observation validated his point whether he should have said it or not. After the mass-damper ban, Renault never seemed to regain that pace. A world-champion team surely would be able to recover the 0.3s they lost with the reneging of this part. Renault never seemed to recover from that. They weren't the highest-funded team on the grid, but they certainly had the people and the resources to work around it in the final 8 weeks of the season. Also, nary a race went by when you didn't see the Renault mechanics horsing around in the garage. A fun bunch for sure, but maybe the professionalism could have been knocked up a notch. I thought that Alonso and McLaren would be a perfect match, as both are undeniably dedicated to winning.

Alonso is 26 years old. He's young. All young people are fiercely competitive, passionate, and somewhat immature. Let's not forget that a 28 year-old Michael Schumacher tried to win the championship by ramming Jacques Villeneuve off the road at Jerez.

F1 drivers are notorious for being outspoken. If Jarno Trulli and Giancarlo Fischella had anything bad to say about Fernando, they'd have done it already. Flavio Briatore is anything but quiet, and he hasn't said much, either.

I have made it no secret that I am a huge Fernando Alonso fan (his maiden-victory R23 sits underneath a spotlight on this very desk), but I will not blindly defend everything that he does and says. A fair amount of what he says should be kept to himself, even if there is truth to it. He shouldn't have made a public spectacle with Massa at the Nurburgring. He should not have accused Renault of sabotaging his championship run last year. His "I only have three people to thank" speech after his championship-clinching race in Brazil 2005 was perplexing. Nevertheless, Fernando is one of the most successful and purely-talented drivers in the world. His championships and race victories speak for themselves. He is being paid ~$30 million to win the championship for McLaren, and for this amount, it is not unfair to assume that the team would be more supportive than they have been.

In 2001, Renault was mid-pack on the best of days. In 2002, they hired Fernando to be their primary test driver. In 2003, they won two pole positions and a race. In 2005, they won both championships. Dislike the man if you want, but there is no denying the value he can bring to a team. With the insanity surrounding Lewis Hamilton, McLaren is not gaining the full benefit of having Alonso on the team. That should bother them, but it clearly doesn't.

+rep, definitely. ;) I was starting to think nobody past the Pyrenees would look over Hungary's incident and all the crap the media dumped over Alonso.

But yeah, even if he's too direct most of the time, not really caring about anyone else and whining about everything, that doesn't mean he doesn't speak the truth. A bit too loud, but the way Hamilton is behaving nowadays makes me wish he'll end up like Villeneuve. Let him show his talent and then sink down like Jacques did. :D
 

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