Would G27 owners still recommend them after the 1.06 patch?

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DFGT or G27?

  • Stick with the DFGT

    Votes: 14 25.5%

  • Go with the G27

    Votes: 41 74.5%
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I am thinking of getting the G27 wheel but I am unsure if it is worth it. Sounds like a lot of mixed feelings about it after the recent patches. I currently have the DFGT wheel and I am torn between dropping the money on a G27 and having the clutch pedal and 6 speed shifter, or sticking with the DFGT.

Do those with the G27 actually use the shifter or do they use the paddles? Does it work well for racing? Currently I use the sequential shifter on the DFGT and like it a lot, but the lack of a clutch pedal really annoys me, and the pedals just don't do it for me.

Next is the quality. The DFGT is a quality piece but it is more like a toy compared to the G27. I play this game ALOT and I feel like the DFGT wont last long at this rate since it seems to go off center and have other problems after many hours of continuous play.

The Thrustmasters wheel is out of the question currently since that's very expensive, maybe far into the future when it drops in price and has a shifter.

So should I pull the trigger?
 
m1nd64m3
I am thinking of getting the G27 wheel but I am unsure if it is worth it. Sounds like a lot of mixed feelings about it after the recent patches. I currently have the DFGT wheel and I am torn between dropping the money on a G27 and having the clutch pedal and 6 speed shifter, or sticking with the DFGT.

Do those with the G27 actually use the shifter or do they use the paddles? Does it work well for racing? Currently I use the sequential shifter on the DFGT and like it a lot, but the lack of a clutch pedal really annoys me, and the pedals just don't do it for me.

Next is the quality. The DFGT is a quality piece but it is more like a toy compared to the G27. I play this game ALOT and I feel like the DFGT wont last long at this rate since it seems to go off center and have other problems after many hours of continuous play.

The Thrustmasters wheel is out of the question currently since that's very expensive, maybe far into the future when it drops in price and has a shifter.

So should I pull the trigger?
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Sure it´s worth. Go get it :)
Am using the G25, we´re at HRSL racing ONLY with h-shifters and clutching happy. Can´t get better than that, I tell you. Search for that term here on GTP and have a look.

Later :)
 
bear in mind the clutch ONLY works with H shift, you can't force it's use with any sequential gear change options. Which is a shame as many race cars have a clutch AND sequential shift.
 
I used to have a Driving force pro and upgraded to a G25. Best thing i've done in terms of hardware for ages. The G25 feels like a MUCH higher quality bit of kit, its smoother and generally way more refined. I sometimes go to my mates house who has my old DFP and it really makes me realise how happy i am with the G25.

Hope this helps.
 
I just bought the g27 and cant stop talking about it. It is so realistic and feels great after a couple of setting changes on your ps3. I wanted something realistic that i could actually shift 6 gears and clutch rather than a sequential shift. I dont really even use the paddle shifters unless i use an F1 car. I would highly recommend this unless you are married like me and your wife gets sick of hearing "Just one more race." I am addicted now.

Also, i have heard people say that with future patches, they should fix some of the minor things that the wheel does (just because no other wheel has 6 speed shifter) and then it will be perfect. But its about dead on right now and once you get used to it you think your driving a real car.
 
And now.....
The bad news

I own the G27, and have only had it since last December (2010), and have only used it for ±10/15 Hours since I had it, and 99% of that time was spent in or on GT5.

I feel that I can express some insight into this thread. So I'll shall attempt to do so.

First off be WARNED the G25 (No longer available), and its younger sibling the G27 WERE NEVER EVER SUPPORTED UNDER GRAN TURISMO 5!!, so don't say you never knew. Back in the day it was heavily implied that support for the G2x was coming. To their credit those People are still talking out there Backsides. Fact is Every G25/G27 Owner is quite firmly set into the 5hit-tier Category in PDs' eyes. And IMHO I've probably stand more chance in hitting the Lotto then then ever seeing the G27 getting any meaningful support.


As if this all wasn't bad enough PD have somehow managed to feck all the G27 and G25? (note I do not speak for G25), Owners and trash what minuscule support for the Wheel(s) that was in there Game before. Now not that the Force Feedback on the G27 (in GT5), was ever anything to write home about to begin with but, ever since the v1.06 Update the Force Feedback has become allot weaker. I would describe it as "Limp and Rubbery", where as before it was at best moderate. (So 50%-ish)

Wither or not this as been addressed in the newest v1.08 Update?
Sadly probably not. Although I shall look into this latter once I get home and run though the never-ending Hurdles of PS3 and GT5 Updates.

Thankfully ~Other Games~ like F1 2010, Dirt, and NFS Shift and Hot Pursuit go a way to redeem this Wheel.

In short Polyphony Digital need to stop it with there duschbaggery and finnaly address that there are People who have no wish to buy there ZMOG $600.00(USD) Wheel...

In short the G27 is not worth the Money for just GT5 and it's Halo effect Games on the PS3.
As for the PC Side of things, this would imply that I still use a Desktop with some Graphics Card that costs more the the G27 itself, and lol no that's not happening. Thats what the PS3 and X360 are for...

This said the G27 is like most other Logitech Equipment, very well built quite stable and ohhhh shiny lol.
Just do not expect to have a great time in GT5 with One.

Cause you wont.
 
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I just bought a G27 to replace my old DFGT and I'm happy with it!
As quality the G27 wins hands down, not only externally (fake leather and metal.... cool :D!) but also internally, the "gears" inside are a lot less noisy and "crunchy" (feels smoother). The clutch+shifter way of playing really changed my view on GT5, you can really feel the car under your hands, much more than using the paddles.... even if the gear stick is not so good after all, you'll need some time to get used to it, especially downshifting.

The problem is that, in the end, the experience doesn't change completely, just gets better and the difference is not so noticeable like from a controller to a wheel...
If you want my advice go for it but sell your old DFGT to a friend or online: I sold mine for 60€ with a remaining year of warranty so in the end I paid the G27 160€, a more reasonable price for just an upgraded wheel!
 
@ichijoe: couldn´t agree less. feeling for the car in gt5 is good and i had much fun with the game ever since i bought it. so i don´t see your point there.

the ffb hasn´t changed that much since 1.06, imo. shifting with clutch + h shifter has become better, even if it´s not perfect.

tbh in f12010 the ffb is horrible! you don´t feel any feedback from the cars rear (played it on pc so i won´t say that you are wrong about the ps3 version!). played dirt2 on pc and it was good, but still not comparable to gt5 at all. so i don´t get what you are talking about..

@m1nd64m3: you WILL have a good time in gt5 with the wheel, it´s great fun. i never had a dfgt, so i can´t tell the difference in ffb etc. all i know that it´s great do drive around in gt with a g27. ..

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i use the h-shifter + clutch almost every time, because it´s much fun. only with the high powered lm cars or fgt i use the paddles, since i´m quite busy with holding the car on the road :D

quality of the g27 is good. much plastic, but you had that on your dfgt, too. so that shouldn´t be an issue
 
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People moan about it not being supported, but it isn't affecting my use of the G27 with GT5.

Do I get ffb which I can use? Yes.
Does it all work? Yes. (I have some spare buttons, which I suppose in an ideal world you could use for the in-race functions, but nothing major.)

I genuinely don't understand why anyone would persuade you to not use a G27 with GT5, it's still utterly brilliant.
 
I think the G27 is a great wheel. I haven't noticed any difference in usage pre or post 1.06.

I always use the shift lever unless its a car that uses paddle shift then I go that way just to maintain some sense of realism.
 
guess w/c one im using? 💡
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no regrets whatsoever...if i did i would have sold it already and make money. no problems shifting either, u just have to be precise (depress clutch first before shifting)since its not very forgiving. gt5 is the only racing game i play at the moment and im enjoying every minute of it w/ this wheel. if remapping buttons is a very big deal for you then i suggest looking at other options...but i've never remapped buttons even with my old dfgt...yes, PD fully supporting the g27 would be nice but im not complaining.
 
g27 is a very good wheel but its not fully supported its a shame i feel like there are a lot of issues that can be solved if they start working on it
FFB is awful specially on dirty rally tracks
you cant change the buttons
i feel like somehow? it has affected the handling of the cars in a bad way , but i would not know for sure i havent had any other wheel
 
Well, i think you have your answer. 13/15 say that it is great and absolutely love it. If you buy it and dont like it, i know people that would buy it off of you. There is a reason that its hard to get your hands on one... hence ebayers are posting and selling anywhere between 400 and 500+. if you get it and dont like it, let me know. My cousin is trying to get his hands on one without the 1-3 month amazon wait. :)

I know in my first post i said about the support, but other than changing force feedback and driving type to simulation, it was all plug and play. I got mine on amazon a week ago and wish i would have bought two. There hard to find right now. If anyone does know a site, please let me know. I have looked at all of logitechs resellers, logitech itself, amazon and ebay...
 
As a user of the DF Pro, I tested out a G27 at a retailer recently, absolutely amazed by the 6-gear H-gate shifter and the extra clutch pedal control. I would recommend it. I just wanted to add 2 things I think MIGHT be a problem for me :

1. Driving in Manual 6-speed mode using the clutch and shifter, I notice I tend to literally KICK the clutch during fast shifting in the heat-of-race. I am heartbroken seeing it going through my abuse. With the DF Pro, only the brakes gets kick, but less frequent than the G27's clutch.

2. Wearing shoes, the 3-pedals seemed a bit too close together. I could not seem to 'find' the brake pedal with my right foot during the first few goes, and both my feet go tangled a bit :) Great for heel-n-toe technique though.

I really recommend it, but suggest you test it out first.
 
i curently using g 27 and i love this weel!!!! it broke on me after many many many hours on gt5 and i had to send it to logitech to fix it . 3 week later and i got it back... and trust me i cald them 100 times to find out when it was comming back.so yes this strearing is much better and yes i use clucth and shifter for very cool feelings!!!!! so jump on it iff you can you wont regret!!!
 
GTP_roadrunner
Sure it´s worth. Go get it :)
Am using the G25, we´re at HRSL racing ONLY with h-shifters and clutching happy. Can´t get better than that, I tell you. Search for that term here on GTP and have a look.

Later :)
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Thanks, I will be sure to search that.

robbo6
bear in mind the clutch ONLY works with H shift, you can't force it's use with any sequential gear change options. Which is a shame as many race cars have a clutch AND sequential shift.
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Damn, was wondering about that, although I see myself using the shifter more often since I barely used the buttons on the back of the DFGT, but who knows since the g27 has those big badass paddles.

Ichijoe
And now.....
The bad news

I own the G27, and have only had it since last December (2010), and have only used it for ±10/15 Hours since I had it, and 99% of that time was spent in or on GT5.

I feel that I can express some insight into this thread. So I'll shall attempt to do so.

First off be WARNED the G25 (No longer available), and its younger sibling the G27 WERE NEVER EVER SUPPORTED UNDER GRAN TURISMO 5!!, so don't say you never knew. Back in the day it was heavily implied that support for the G2x was coming. To their credit those People are still talking out there Backsides. Fact is Every G25/G27 Owner is quite firmly set into the 5hit-tier Category in PDs' eyes. And IMHO I've probably stand more chance in hitting the Lotto then then ever seeing the G27 getting any meaningful support.


As if this all wasn't bad enough PD have somehow managed to feck all the G27 and G25? (note I do not speak for G25), Owners and trash what minuscule support for the Wheel(s) that was in there Game before. Now not that the Force Feedback on the G27 (in GT5), was ever anything to write home about to begin with but, ever since the v1.06 Update the Force Feedback has become allot weaker. I would describe it as "Limp and Rubbery", where as before it was at best moderate. (So 50%-ish)

Wither or not this as been addressed in the newest v1.08 Update?
Sadly probably not. Although I shall look into this latter once I get home and run though the never-ending Hurdles of PS3 and GT5 Updates.

Thankfully ~Other Games~ like F1 2010, Dirt, and NFS Shift and Hot Pursuit go a way to redeem this Wheel.

In short Polyphony Digital need to stop it with there duschbaggery and finnaly address that there are People who have no wish to buy there ZMOG $600.00(USD) Wheel...

In short the G27 is not worth the Money for just GT5 and it's Halo effect Games on the PS3.
As for the PC Side of things, this would imply that I still use a Desktop with some Graphics Card that costs more the the G27 itself, and lol no that's not happening. Thats what the PS3 and X360 are for...

This said the G27 is like most other Logitech Equipment, very well built quite stable and ohhhh shiny lol.
Just do not expect to have a great time in GT5 with One.

Cause you wont.
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I get what your saying, it is a shame they screwed over the G series owners. I plan on using it for PC games and other racing games too so I'm happy to hear it works even better with everything else out there.

Vanon
I just bought a G27 to replace my old DFGT and I'm happy with it!
As quality the G27 wins hands down, not only externally (fake leather and metal.... cool :D!) but also internally, the "gears" inside are a lot less noisy and "crunchy" (feels smoother). The clutch+shifter way of playing really changed my view on GT5, you can really feel the car under your hands, much more than using the paddles.... even if the gear stick is not so good after all, you'll need some time to get used to it, especially downshifting.

The problem is that, in the end, the experience doesn't change completely, just gets better and the difference is not so noticeable like from a controller to a wheel...
If you want my advice go for it but sell your old DFGT to a friend or online: I sold mine for 60€ with a remaining year of warranty so in the end I paid the G27 160€, a more reasonable price for just an upgraded wheel!
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P. Reeto
guess w/c one im using? 💡
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no regrets whatsoever...if i did i would have sold it already and make money. no problems shifting either, u just have to be precise (depress clutch first before shifting)since its not very forgiving. gt5 is the only racing game i play at the moment and im enjoying every minute of it w/ this wheel. if remapping buttons is a very big deal for you then i suggest looking at other options...but i've never remapped buttons even with my old dfgt...yes, PD fully supporting the g27 would be nice but im not complaining.
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bobd
As a user of the DF Pro, I tested out a G27 at a retailer recently, absolutely amazed by the 6-gear H-gate shifter and the extra clutch pedal control. I would recommend it. I just wanted to add 2 things I think MIGHT be a problem for me :

1. Driving in Manual 6-speed mode using the clutch and shifter, I notice I tend to literally KICK the clutch during fast shifting in the heat-of-race. I am heartbroken seeing it going through my abuse. With the DF Pro, only the brakes gets kick, but less frequent than the G27's clutch.

2. Wearing shoes, the 3-pedals seemed a bit too close together. I could not seem to 'find' the brake pedal with my right foot during the first few goes, and both my feet go tangled a bit :) Great for heel-n-toe technique though.

I really recommend it, but suggest you test it out first.
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How was the force feedback between the two? was it noticablely different? I like to play with my force feedback really high, so if the FFB is the same strength as the DFGT I will be happy.

I always play in socks or barefoot, so pedal distance is not an issue.

CoolJetta3
I think the G27 is a great wheel. I haven't noticed any difference in usage pre or post 1.06.

I always use the shift lever unless its a car that uses paddle shift then I go that way just to maintain some sense of realism.
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This is what I want to be able to do, I try to with the DFGT but those buttons on the back suck and are so unrealistic.


Thanks for the feedback guys, sounds like its comparable to the DFGT in terms of what I am used to but with the shifter and clutch as an added bonus, along with being more sturdy and realistic.

One more question tho, how much larger is the wheel unit (the part with the motors and everything, not the actual wheel) than the DFGT one? Trying to get an idea how it will fit in my current makeshift setup.
 
I have a G27 and absolutely love it. Go for it, and I promise you won't regret it.
 
m1nd64m3
One more question tho, how much larger is the wheel unit (the part with the motors and everything, not the actual wheel) than the DFGT one? Trying to get an idea how it will fit in my current makeshift setup.
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If you "cut" the sequential stick form the DFGT, the 2 enclosures are almost the same size, the G27 is a couple of cm bigger. But the actual wheels are different, the g27 is bigger and more realistic
 
I did the g27 and Now it's sort of not worth it :/

Not only can I not use all of the buttons but Recently My replaced g27 has been having the same problem as my last one. It keeps getting off calibration.
 
zedfonsie
I did the g27 and Now it's sort of not worth it :/

Not only can I not use all of the buttons but Recently My replaced g27 has been having the same problem as my last one. It keeps getting off calibration.
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logitech has a very good support. so if you have problems, just call them till you get a capable administrator, he´ll send you a new set, and you won´t even have to send back yours. trust me, i had some issues, but it´s totally worth to stick with that wheel. once you have a set without failures you will love it :> (not only for gt5!!!)
 
liQster
logitech has a very good support. so if you have problems, just call them till you get a capable administrator, he´ll send you a new set, and you won´t even have to send back yours. trust me, i had some issues, but it´s totally worth to stick with that wheel. once you have a set without failures you will love it :> (not only for gt5!!!)
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I bought mine from amazon dealer so It's much harder..
 
I own a G27 I've played on my nephew's DFGT and they don't even compare. The DFGT feels like a toddler toy from the loose fitting plastics and low quality material. The G27 is definitely worth the extra cash in my opinion.

-Steering feels more realistic
-Materials feel like the sort that would actually be used in a car
-Clutch pedal
-Pedals have much better weight and resistance. The brake pedal feels like a brake pedal, the clutch feels like a cluth, etc. The DFGT feels like you're stepping on cheap, lightweight toys.
-Shifter attachment has it's own set of buttons
-Shift light indicator is cool.
 
Well guys I'm gonna do it.

Does anyone know of any good places to purchase the wheel? I was going to buy it from logitech's website but I'll wait for input from you guys on some good places to order it from before I place the order.

Really excited!!!!
 
skubaben
Get your self a fanatec wheeel its twice the wheel atleast
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The fanatec wheels are very cool, but I don't really want to piece something together by buying the wheel and the pedals and accessories. I would probably buy the t500 once I get up past $300, and the fanatec setup I would want would definetly be over $300.

I ended up ordering it from compusa.com, they said they had them in stock right now and that it would take 4 business days to receive, total was 311 with shipping and tax and such.
 
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