WSCC SuperGT...Finished...Congrats Nicktune!

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i was connected to the lobby at one point but had to leave for a minute but once a few more people joined i couldnt get in...i would like to race but its jusy frustrating sometimes dealing with the connection issues...it would be nice to get something figured out like u guys said during the week before trying to have everyone connect at racetime and having the race start before there is enough time to troubleshoot how to get in... i was upset when i posted earlier and would like to stay on the list.. but hopefully we can figure something out...plus i know most people made it into the race but it just seems like everyweek someone different cant make it into the room or disconnects halfway through race so i think alot of the problems can be blamed on the games server capabilities rather than on peoples internet connections-just my opinion
 
I don't have a clue what the hosting problem is, but it's not the fault of the games servers. I'm in 2 other series besides this one and this is the only one that has all these hosting issues. Connection speeds have nothing to do with hosting capabilities, it takes VERY little bandwidth to host a race. You see people all the time complaining about not being able to race online even though they have a 10-20mb connection speed, the speed is not the problem. You can monitor bandwidth usasge in your router, you will find that almost anything over dialup has more than enough speed to handle hosting a race. Another interesting fact you will find by monitoring bandwidth usage is that using mics takes a lot more bandwidth than the actual racing, mics are the cause of most lag problems. People leaving and returning to the lobby will affect the race also, if you are having problems getting or staying online, don't try to race online until the issues are sorted out, and if you get DC'd while in a race lobby, don't try to reenter, chances are it won't work and will probably mess it up for everyone else.

This definitely needs to be worked out before the start of the series. Like stone said, it sucks to practice all week and make plans to be ready for the race then not be able to get in because of hosting issues. I'm really hoping you can figure this out, this could be a really great series and I'm looking forward to running it if the hosting issues can be resolved.
 
My connection was rock solid to the room and I didn't have any network issues... not quite so with my execution of the race unfortunately.

Anyway, post here exactly what you need from us for connection testing before next week. I'll try to help out and can probably connect if I know when/where. I might have issues making it at 8:00 sharp (Pacific), but should be available most evenings by 8:15-8:30 if you need to test a full room.
 
Often times its your router that is causing the problem, not your internet connection. Try plugging your PS3 directly into your modem and that'll probably resolve the issue. If you must use the router, reset it to default settings and make sure UpNP is enabled.

Stone,
Next week, if you get disconnected and it is after 11:30 (EST), please don't try to re-enter the room over and over again. The race had started and your name kept popping up over and over again. Very annoying.

Lucky,
What happened at Dunlop on lap 1? I don't know if you could tell but I was braking early on lap 1 until my tires warmed up. It takes half a lap to get enough heat in my rear tires to not spin out, and 2 laps before I can post fast times. I braked a little early and you just went flying off the track behind me. I thought you, Nic, and I were going to have a close race.

Race Report: Not sure what happened behind me but by lap 3 I was on my own gaining about 1-2 seconds per lap. On lap 9 I had a 15 second lead so I went with a 2 pitstop strategy figuring I'd have some fun chasing down other cars. I came out in 3rd behind Deathbyrotor but with fresh RS tires i just followed for a bit and waited for a straight to draft pass. Shortly after that SPOLTY pitted and i was back in 1st place. I made my second pit stop around lap 21. At one point I came across someone else, thedude1435 maybe? I followed him for a lap or so. He was giving me room to pass but honestly I was having fun following but then I checked lap times and decided it would be best to go by and continue with my pace. On the final laps, I came across Nic coming out of the pits. He stayed on my tail and probably could have run my pace. I thought Nic was 2nd or 3rd on the starting grid but I never saw him until the end. What happened Nic?

Qualifying Time: 1:56.1xx
Fastest time on RM during the race: 1:57.0xx
Fastest time on RS during the race: 1:53.4xx
Off-track incidents: 0
 
I screwed up nic's race a little bit by accident...during the crash on turn 1 on the first lap, I was following him to avoid the cars...then when a car went sliding across the road we both slammed on our brakes but I was to close to him and tapped him causing a little damage I think....sorry man

Also with all the.connection problems, in the other league I'm in with lucky, we always do open lobby with mics disabled...there are people from all across the states, Europe and new Zealand and we rarely have problems
 
What happened Nic?
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Yes I was 2nd on the starting grid...
Wrecked again first corner :ouch: 56sec off after 1 lap.
I'm so unlucky :lol: every on pre-season race....
Maybe it's because my car look like a target (red/white)!?!?:)

It wasn't you tr1mble...I think it was a nissan GTR..
 
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i have played over 40 ps3 games online and this one is by far the worst as far as servers go and yea i know how to trouble shoot internet problems with ps3 and am very knnowledgable about ps3 internet connections...im sure i know more than most people here about fixing connect problems on a ps3... sry bout the name popping up on my screen it never said i was joining room it just said incompatibility with host.. and btw connection speeds have everything to do with hosting a match online and also connecting to the host...i dont know what would give u the idea that it doesnt... bandwith is everything in online gaming and if u think otherwise then u are wrong...this game took so long to make that the servers are outdated and i constantly see people disconnecting online on this game more than it should be happening.it dont matter anyways though because u will not see me posting on here or in the races any longer cuz im quitting and prolly selling this game.
 
Also with all the.connection problems, in the other league I'm in with lucky, we always do open lobby with mics disabled...there are people from all across the states, Europe and new Zealand and we rarely have problems[/QUOTE]

this is why we will be using this method with our testing this week as we talked about after the race, we all are upset with these connection problems.
and stone420420 i understand your frustrations as i practice with you all week and know how much you improve from the first day of practice to race day as you end the week as fast as me, as i remember you started on the pole last week. and frankly i wouldn't let you quit anyways:cheers:
 
First turn is about going from double to single-file...its not about racing the fastest possible line or beating your opponent in a drag race. Leave plenty of space between you and the car in front of you and brake lightly to modulate the distance so you are far away on entry, but close as you near the apex.

I kind of wish there was a way to turn damage on only after the first lap...so people's races weren't ruined by over eager racers at the back that think they are going to fall behind if they don't brake at the last possible second. These cars should be fairly evenly matched, which means any time lost entering a turn can be made up by drafting to the next turn. You can run as much as 2 seconds faster per lap by drafting so if a leader breaks away, it just takes running a few consistent laps back to back to catch their draft and close the gap.

Also important is to not challenge your opponent until you are comfortable that you can run faster in front of them. If the driver is skilled enough to take turns fast but they are just down on power...give them a few bumps down the straight when it is safe and you will likely improve your lap times and close in on other cars in front of you. Work together and share the track...and when you approach the end of the race, that's when you battle for position.
 
Lucky,
What happened at Dunlop on lap 1? I don't know if you could tell but I was braking early on lap 1 until my tires warmed up. It takes half a lap to get enough heat in my rear tires to not spin out, and 2 laps before I can post fast times. I braked a little early and you just went flying off the track behind me. I thought you, Nic, and I were going to have a close race.

i thought that i was going to hit you so i put in the kitty litter instead of punting you, then i went to pits and put med tires on causing a second pit stop which put more than a minute behind, ended up taking 30plus seconds off your lead before spinning on second to last lap
 
chuyler1
First turn is about going from double to single-file...its not about racing the fastest possible line or beating your opponent in a drag race. Leave plenty of space between you and the car in front of you and brake lightly to modulate the distance so you are far away on entry, but close as you near the apex.

I kind of wish there was a way to turn damage on only after the first lap...so people's races weren't ruined by over eager racers at the back that think they are going to fall behind if they don't brake at the last possible second. These cars should be fairly evenly matched, which means any time lost entering a turn can be made up by drafting to the next turn. You can run as much as 2 seconds faster per lap by drafting so if a leader breaks away, it just takes running a few consistent laps back to back to catch their draft and close the gap.

Also important is to not challenge your opponent until you are comfortable that you can run faster in front of them. If the driver is skilled enough to take turns fast but they are just down on power...give them a few bumps down the straight when it is safe and you will likely improve your lap times and close in on other cars in front of you. Work together and share the track...and when you approach the end of the race, that's when you battle for position.
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amen well said
 
luckylefty2gunz
ended up taking 30plus seconds off your lead before spinning on second to last lap
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Nice work. I was running about 1 second off my fastest pace by playing it safe on several corners that I knew could be potential for losing 10-15 seconds if i went off. Even with that i still gained close to 1 sec per lap on 2nd place so I had no reason to push hard.

You probably would have fared better by staying out for a while on the RM tires and perhaps stretching for just one more pit stop mid-way through the race. You might not have caught me, but you should have been able to get 2nd place with that strategy.
 
All the stuff that happened in this race was just racing. This is how racing goes. Has anyone here ever seen a Formula 1 race? Of course you have. A whole lot of broken cars after turn one. Every time. We had a racing incident and it wont be last. If this game was a little more authentic we would have had 2 or 3 cars out of the race and Chuyler would have never built up a lead because of a safety car.

I this series or any other, I'm not going to sit and wait or tip toe around other cars. I'm going to take whats put in front of me. I have to, I'm not as fast as some of the other guys. If I ever make contact with anyone, it was an accident. Not one person here is purposely wrecking anyone or trying to ruin someones race. At the same time I will be patiently aggressive and take spots whenever I can.

I have no idea how to deal with the connection problem. I guess we're going try an open lobby. We'll see how that goes. It seems to me to be the same people having problems every time.

If you are a lap down you may not compete with the other cars. Keep an eye on your race. You have to keep your distance from the lead lap cars. You cannot be a factor. Going through a corner side by side, drafting, trying to out brake, these are all things you should not be doing. You are probably not going to get your lap back, therefor have to race accordingly. I've a been a back marker more time than I can count. Keep digging but do not interfere.
 
+1 on lap traffic, except for the drafting bit. If you can safely trail another car several car lengths back, drafting is a good way to make up lost time...but if you are not confident you can trail someone without interfering it is best to back off. I had no issues with racing along side lapped cars last night because I knew I had a 30+ second lead. However it may have been a bit naive of me to think I was safe. All it takes is a missed brake point to turn a 30 second lead into a 2nd or 3rd place finish. I probably won't be playing cat and mouse with lapped cars next week when points are involved.

I really wish there was a way to implement a pace car in this game along with caution pit stops. I suppose a race steward could sit and watch the track and come out whenever cars go off...but it would be hard to convince someone to sit around for an hour and do that while 15 other guys race their hearts out. Plus, with the number of accidents that occur, we'd be lucky to get 5 laps in without a caution.

Cautions would have certainly reduced my lead and affected pit strategy...but I was able to pull away from most of the cars on the track without much effort by simply staying on track and calmly hitting apexes. Lucky and Nic would have given me a run for my money had they been given the opportunity to reset on the grid and fight to the front but i doubt others would have posed a threat aside from an accidental punt.

...but don't worry. I won't be able to dominate in the NSX at tracks like Laguna and Deep Forest. Add to that the tire penalty and this series is wide open! I'm excited to see what happens.
 
Sassafrass_3
All the stuff that happened in this race was just racing. This is how racing goes. Has anyone here ever seen a Formula 1 race?

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If you are a lap down you may not compete with the other cars. Keep an eye on your race. You have to keep your distance from the lead lap cars. You cannot be a factor. Going through a corner side by side, drafting, trying to out brake, these are all things you should not be doing. You are probably not going to get your lap back, therefor have to race accordingly. I've a been a back marker more time than I can count. Keep digging but do not interfere.
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I agree (it was just racing) and it wasn't all about the drivers "at the back". I was near the back and tip toed wide into the first corner and saw the crash in front from the middle of the pack... all but stopped dead and saw an opening on the left with a lot of cars sitting in the middle in all directions. Went to go by and got pummeled by someone trying to clear themselves from the wreck... I guess I should have just sat there until the other cars left. Just racing and I'm sure they didn't see me and were just trying to clear themselves from a wreck they probably didn't cause. (did anyone save a replay of that initial turn?)

I got a lap down due to that incident and a couple of my own mistakes including a solo spin and forgetting to change the tires to the soft compound (like Lucky did) and those mistakes were nobody else's fault. Once I got behind I tried hard to follow the rule of not getting in any lead lap cars way. I went by Lucky once when I had fresh warm tires and he was on cold tires (he was still a lap ahead) and I made the pass clean and with no contact as the turn speed difference was significant. He warmed his tires fairly quickly and was on my tail by the end of the lap and I gave him room to go by without incident as I did a few of the other lead lap cars near the front. So even though I was a back marker this race I didn't screw up anyone else race.

It was fun in any case and I know I can (and should) have done a lot better, but nobody really to blame but my own rookie mistakes. Believe me, I don't plan to be a back marker every race, but when/if it happens again I'm going to do the same thing and give the lead cars plenty of room.
 
I ran a few laps at Fuji last night. Haven't touched my GP/F tune and I'm at 1:33/RM. Does that sound about right? I feel like there is more time to be found but I am not very consistent with this track. I keep expecting the chicane so that turn throws me off my rhythm for a few turns.
 
Lucky, you can disable mics from your lounge in your home settings. Same place you set the default track and message. I think we should try that in your lobby before resorting to public lobbies.
 
GTRedline
Lucky, you can disable mics from your lounge in your home settings. Same place you set the default track and message. I think we should try that in your lobby before resorting to public lobbies.
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i will disable mics in my lounge for the races i will jump on now and open lounge
 
Had a practice session last night and the best i could do was a 1:33 flat. Fuji is kind of boring but it has a level of difficulty that other tracks don’t have because of how wide it is. We'll have another turn one hairpin to deal with as well. Greest, its the little pedal on the left.
 
Sassafrass_3
Had a practice session last night and the best i could do was a 1:33 flat. Fuji is kind of boring but it has a level of difficulty that other tracks don’t have because of how wide it is. We'll have another turn one hairpin to deal with as well. Greest, its the little pedal on the left.
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im not worried about turn 1 it's the rest of the race, maybe if the NSX's get taken out in turn 1 the rest of us might have a chance as they are faster on med tires then we are on soft's. i will be wrecking any and all NSX's i see just to make it fair. i might not be joking.....lol:crazy:
 
Yup, I can get maybe 2 or 3 low 1:33s on RM tires in the NSX before lap times start increasing into the 1:34s. Haven't tested RS tires yet.

We ran a quick 5-lapper last night and I was able to stay out front on the mediums while everyone else I think was on softs. The final sector was the equalizer with some of the drivers able to catch up and draft me down the straight.

i will be wrecking any and all NSX's i see just to make it fair. i might not be joking.....lol
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I really hope you are joking. The NSX will have its advantage at Fuji...but when it comes to tracks like Laguna Seca, Tsukuba, and Deep Forest the advantage will be lost.

There is some potential for pit strategy as well. Lucky mentioned pitting on lap 1 for his soft tires. I'm not convinced that strategy will work but it could. I think a more realistic strategy would be to run almost half the race on the mediums before switching to the softs, stretching the tires to avoid the added time of a second pit stop. This could give you a 30 second advantage over drivers on a 2 pit strategy but will leave you with little grip to defend late in the race.
 
chuyler1
Yup, I can get maybe 2 or 3 low 1:33s on RM tires in the NSX before lap times start increasing into the 1:34s. Haven't tested RS tires yet.

We ran a quick 5-lapper last night and I was able to stay out front on the mediums while everyone else I think was on softs. The final sector was the equalizer with some of the drivers able to catch up and draft me down the straight.



I really hope you are joking. The NSX will have its advantage at Fuji...but when it comes to tracks like Laguna Seca, Tsukuba, and Deep Forest the advantage will be lost.

There is some potential for pit strategy as well. Lucky mentioned pitting on lap 1 for his soft tires. I'm not convinced that strategy will work but it could. I think a more realistic strategy would be to run almost half the race on the mediums before switching to the softs, stretching the tires to avoid the added time of a second pit stop. This could give you a 30 second advantage over drivers on a 2 pit strategy but will leave you with little grip to defend late in the race.
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no im not joking i hate losing...lol
 
So it would seem that there's a lot of pairs running the same car. What does everyone think about using the individual car to determine the teams. There's a few odd balls that we would have to pair up. We don't have to do a team championship, its just nice to have a second goal if someone is walking away with the drivers championship. Might keep people interested until the end.

Let me know your thoughts.
 
I plan on getting online tonight. We'll see if that actually happens.

Like Team Petronas, Team YellowHat, etc. Like that? Even for the single car teams I think it would be cool. Maybe a single car team wins some races and is in the mix against 2 car teams.

I'm still a little confused about our starting roster here. We seem to have a really good showing for every pre-season race (thx to everyone for showing interest) but I'm still not sure who's in and who's out. Add on top of that the small handful with connection issues. I'm all for trying a public lobby. Its just going to be tough on the host to boot the people that don't belong. Maybe we could title the room SuperGT Private or something. Ehhh, that might make it worst. Or better.
 
GTRedline
So it would seem that there's a lot of pairs running the same car. What does everyone think about using the individual car to determine the teams. There's a few odd balls that we would have to pair up. We don't have to do a team championship, its just nice to have a second goal if someone is walking away with the drivers championship. Might keep people interested until the end.

Let me know your thoughts.
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I'm game if Stone is. He would seem to be a tad disgruntled at the moment, and I don't blame him. I would be too.
 
I'd like to host a practice race tomorrow night. Or maybe we can do two races. One from an open lobby and one from my lobby. The race in my lobby will be at 7pm PST. Then maybe lucky would host from an open lobby.
 
Sassafrass_3
I'd like to host a practice race tomorrow night. Or maybe we can do two races. One from an open lobby and one from my lobby. The race in my lobby will be at 7pm PST. Then maybe lucky would host from an open lobby.
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I would like to stick with private lobbies but with mics disabled before the room is open. Nothing good can come from open lobbies.
 
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