Young children should not be smacked as a means of punishment.

[rjensen11]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I've actually never sworn in front of my parents. I don't know how they'd react, they're pretty, uh, narrowminded and old-fashioned.

I say "damn!" and "$hit!" in front of my mom, but I don't swear really, in front of my pa. But my mom swears in front of me and my brother, so I feel like I can swear in front of my mom. I just don't use the f-word....

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I've actually never sworn in front of my parents. I don't know how they'd react, they're pretty, uh, narrowminded and old-fashioned.

I bet your parents are pretty happy about Mitt Romney getting elected.

 

[Klostrophobic]

Yes, actually.

 

[sn00pie]

Originally posted by milefile
Indeed. My mom broke her thumb on me. That was her last time. I felt bad.

Haha! That's hilarious.

I broke my brother's thumb once, too.

 

[risingson77]

Originally posted by Cobraboy
Physical abuse only effectively works on animals. But even then you shouldn't do it.

Here is the key problem. Many people are unable to distinguish between a disciplinary slap and beating the tar out of a kid. There's a BIG gap between the two. With discipline, you lay down a clear rule and the consequences of breaking said rule. Then you follow through (on the enforcement, not the slap ) when the child is willfully disobedient. You need a smack that's just enough to sting. It's when you just start beating the kid, (especially with a closed hand) that you have crossed the line. Careful judgement and patience are key.

That being said, I know some kids that need to get smacked more often.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
Yes, actually.

I found it strange a Republican won the governorship of the state yet the Republican party didn't even put up a candidate against John Kerry running for re-election. That said, the man's like the John McCain of Massachusetts.

That's two straight way-off-topic comments.

 

[SandStorm]

Originally posted by made in holland
You're 19 and still get smacked?

Strange.

You know you can stand up for yourself, right?
Or just move out.

I do stand up for myself, I'm not about to lay down and give in, am I now? And I am looking for a house of my own, with not much luck.

I'm 6 foot 4, about a good 6 inches taller than my Dad, foot-and-a-half taller than my Mum, but I honestly think that they have some anger management problems, because neither of them seem to realise that I could, if I wanted to, stop them with one hand.

I wouldn't turn around and whack my parents if they gave it to me, but I wouldn't just let them bang my head against a wall, for example.

I've never told anyone this, but I've been diagnosed with A.D.H.D, which decreases concentration levels and deletes a certain behaviour chemical in your brain. Before I was diagnosed I used to run wild, and I got suspended from school for whacking a year one kid with a cricket bat. But I don't remember that.

Oh well, the up-side is that they gave me Dexies to control my condition.

 

[DGB454]

Originally posted by milefile
Woah! DGB... maybe you could make your "location" text a little smaller...?

But it makes my post stand out. I feel special

 

[vat_man]

Anyone who does not have children is automatically banned from expressing an opinion in this thread - including me - I have cats, and it's okay to smack them, chase them, grab them and make them dizzy. Er, I have to go......here, kitty!!

 

[risingson77]

I don't have children because I know enough about them to avoid having them.

 

[DGB454]

You don't know what you are missing.

 

[risingson77]

Yes I do. There's a five year old boy who lives in the apartment above mine. I hear him crashing around the house all the time. >_<

 

[DGB454]

But if it was yours it would make a world of difference. Trust me on this. I have an 11 yr. Old and I can't imagine not having him around. Mt life has changed for the better since he was born. I thought it was good before him but it doesn't even come close to now.

 

[risingson77]

Yes, it would be different. Because then he wouldn't be running on the floor above me, and it wouldn't feel like I'm living in a drum. (O_O)

 

[SandStorm]

Originally posted by vat_man
Anyone who does not have children is automatically banned from expressing an opinion in this thread - including me - I have cats, and it's okay to smack them, chase them, grab them and make them dizzy. Er, I have to go......here, kitty!!

Tsk. Discraceful. Should call the RSPCA...

 

[Flerbizky]

Originally posted by risingson77
Yes, it would be different. Because then he wouldn't be running on the floor above me, and it wouldn't feel like I'm living in a drum. (O_O)

We have a Godson. Him and his little sister comes to visit every once in while, and it's kinda like having a bunch of drunken midgets running around the house....

 

[risingson77]

Yup. It's not that I dislike children - my little cousins and i always have a blast. It's just nice to be able to hand them back to their parents.

 

[ledhed]

Watching the news today I see a couple has been arrested for duct taping their children up..no mention of smacking. Better watch that duct tape.

 

[Belda_Da_Hun]

Originally posted by ledhed
Watching the news today I see a couple has been arrested for duct taping their children up..no mention of smacking. Better watch that duct tape.

nothing wrong with that, its always fun to duct tape people

 

[Belda_Da_Hun]

this 1 girl in my school was pissed at boy for reasons that god only knows. so she and her friends picked him up one day becuase they told him that they would have a good time. they told him to strip naked after they picked him up becuase like i said, they were gonna have a good time. after he striped they duct taped him up and he though it was becuase the situation was gonna get "dirty" so after they taped him up they dumped him out in the woods naked and still taped of and drove away

 

[rjensen11]

Hehe, that's awsome, Belda! Lemme guess, you were the victim?

 

[Giancarlo]

I hear the only proper way to keep kids out of trouble is to teach them when they do things wrong what to do about it, then the next time they do it, they'll know what to do. Be mad at the problem, not the kid.

 

[Blazing20]

No. And here's why.

Physical abuse is absolutely no substitute for disipline. Words have a stronger impact, and, if you teach them at a young age, you shouldn't have to smack or harm a child in any way. This is if we're talking about kids just talking back, or doing stupid little stuff.

Now when we're little, we're bound to talk back, throw short tantrums, and get angry. Yet getting smacked only inflicts physical pain. It only shows a child you are "angry" and they will lose trust in you. They will fear you, not respect you. Fear and respect are two different things.

Let me use an example.

I have a relative who is 12 years, going on 13. He's has what I would call a not-so-good relationship with his mom. His parents divorced when he was 3 (his dad cheated on his mom and is still with that woman to this day). Whenever his mom would get frustarated with him she would smack him, grab his arm and thrown him around, pull his hair, and scream. This, and I repeat, THIS IS NOT GOOD TEACHING. Disipline means to "teach," Not to harm. This relative of mine now carries himself in an inpatient and disrespectful manner to a lot of people in the family (when he feels annoyed or aggitated. You get the idea.)

The two are linked. Inpatient parent, inpatient child. But the link in between is the disipline you use. What you show is what is teach.

So no. I say it does not work, it is not effective, and only continues a cycle of unnecessary action.

 

[risingson77]

Again - physical discipline and abuse are NOT the same thing! Yes, screaming, pulling hair, throwing around are bad. This is abuse, because there is no disciplining taking place and his parent is just hitting him because she cannot express her frustration any other way.

Very young children do not understand reason. A quick slap to the butt can be a useful way to teach reasoning - cause & effect, and the like. But it takes patience and restraint - your relative's mother clearly lacks both.

The best example is one of my little cousins. His parents would tell him to do or not do something, and would give him several chances. They would make abundantly clear the consequences of his actions before and after (if after occurred) the punishment. If he chose to be disobedient, he got a couple quick slaps with a wooden spoon to his backside. Just hard enough to sting a bit. Guess what? Eventually he got the message that if he obeys Mommy and Daddy, he doesn't get spanked. It's not as if they don't love him, either - you couldn't ask for a more loving and nurturing enviroment than that house.

Now if the parent is hitting hard enough to bruise or draw blood - yes, that is WAY out of line. It bothers me that people cannot make that distinction, however.....

 

[Blazing20]

Originally posted by risingson77
Again - physical discipline and abuse are NOT the same thing! Yes, screaming, pulling hair, throwing around are bad. This is abuse, because there is no disciplining taking place and his parent is just hitting him because she cannot express her frustration any other way.

Very young children do not understand reason. A quick slap to the butt can be a useful way to teach reasoning - cause & effect, and the like. But it takes patience and restraint - your relative's mother clearly lacks both.

The best example is one of my little cousins. His parents would tell him to do or not do something, and would give him several chances. They would make abundantly clear the consequences of his actions before and after (if after occurred) the punishment. If he chose to be disobedient, he got a couple quick slaps with a wooden spoon to his backside. Just hard enough to sting a bit. Guess what? Eventually he got the message that if he obeys Mommy and Daddy, he doesn't get spanked. It's not as if they don't love him, either - you couldn't ask for a more loving and nurturing enviroment than that house.

Now if the parent is hitting hard enough to bruise or draw blood - yes, that is WAY out of line. It bothers me that people cannot make that distinction, however.....

Yes, this is true, but on a PERSONAL level, I do not agree with it. That's just my personal opinion. I have never been smacked or anything of that sort of nature. If you agree with it and if spanking doesn't give a negative in the long run- then it might be okay. I don't know. I just don't agree with it. We all have our own reasons. And one more thing--the child should be checked for ADD (Attention Defacy Disorder) or other short attention span disorders...just to be sure if the kid is just acting out or if there is a disorder.

 

[risingson77]

Even a "hyper" child can behave themselves. Psychologists just seem too happy to hand out diagnoses and prescriptions these days. I don't know, I'm a little mistrustful of psychologists anyway. They just seem bent on finding something, anything wrong with you.

But at any rate, spanking is not necessary for every child. The cousin to whom I referred earlier is very smart, strong-willed, and stubborn. Believe me, his parents have the patience of saints.

I can only imagine what he'd be like (he's 8 now) if they hadn't been so consistent in laying down the law. He'd probably be on Ritalin.

 

[Blazing20]

Originally posted by risingson77
Even a "hyper" child can behave themselves. Psychologists just seem too happy to hand out diagnoses and prescriptions these days. I don't know, I'm a little mistrustful of psychologists anyway. They just seem bent on finding something, anything wrong with you.

But at any rate, spanking is not necessary for every child. The cousin to whom I referred earlier is very smart, strong-willed, and stubborn. Believe me, his parents have the patience of saints.

I can only imagine what he'd be like (he's 8 now) if they hadn't been so consistent in laying down the law. He'd probably be on Ritalin.

Well, that's what you go to psychologists for- to see if there's something wrong with you/help you. Now I will agree there are some who seem to want to find anything wrong with you. This is why I refused to see a counselor and get put on medications (well, I was but got myself off of it) when I went through a "depression") a few years ago.

It's good to hear your cousin is doing well at his age Ritalin? Sheesh...TOO MANY people are on it these days.

 

[risingson77]

My point exactly.

 

[milefile]

Phychology is a business and like any other business they have to do what they can to secure their future, i.e. inventing disorders to treat. People used to just have friends.

 

[Villain]

BUMP!

Epic, 10 years later thread bump. You're welcome.

Corporal punishment is in the news.

http://www.examiner.com/article/fat...king-greg-horn-faces-charges-video-goes-viral *Link contains another link which contains foul language and violence.*

This article is actually wrong. The accused, Horn, is actually facing charges for beating his daughters for sneaking out, not "twerking." However, I'm posting it anyways for relevance to the discussion. The secondary link will send you to World Star Hip Hop where a video was posted of a father using a coaxial cable to whip his daughters (you've been warned) for posting a twerking video online.


You're a father. You have teenage daughters and you catch them posting "twerking" videos. Do you "beat some sense" into them?

Definition of "twerking" in the spoilers:

Spoiler

Twerking is basically a "dance" where a girl just makes her booty jiggle and bounce like crazy.

GTPlanet, let's discuss corporal punishment.