Your opinion on Racing Softs?

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I put racing softs on everything, I feel like I have to drive so slow with less grippy tires. I get more of a sense of speed using them too since I can go faster, that's one thing gt5 lacks is any sense of speed.
 
I put racing softs on everything, I feel like I have to drive so slow with less grippy tires. I get more of a sense of speed using them too since I can go faster, that's one thing gt5 lacks is any sense of speed.

Then you're playing the wrong game. ;)

Need for Speed forum is that way. ----->
 
Then you're playing the wrong game. ;)

Need for Speed forum is that way. ----->

I don't play Need for Speed. I've done many time trials on comfort or sport tires with lower powered cars and it is fun and challenging. When I race though I use the most grippy tire I can no matter what car.
 
I drive my cars with Racing Softs, but I drive them with all my assists off on my insane hp cars like the ZR1(905) and ACR Viper(1031).

Would you fellow GTP'ers still say I need to lower my tires down?
 
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I drive my cars with Racing Softs, but I drive them with all my assists off on my insane hp cars like the ZR1(905) and ACR Viper(1035).

Would you fellow GTP'ers still say I need to lower my tires down?
Unless you're achieving to create a fully worked racing car, then you should keep the tires stock, just for novelty. Trying to drive a 700 HP ZR1 in the wet is very, very fun. :sly:
 
Unless you're achieving to create a fully worked racing car, then you should keep the tires stock, just for novelty. Trying to drive a 700 HP ZR1 in the wet is very, very fun. :sly:

I have a different account that I'm going to try to keep my cars stock with, but as for my main one, I'm just driving my cars maxxed hp and with my assists off.

Like sometimes my friends and myself will turn on tire wear and run our cars. I feel if I drive with anything less than racing tires, I'll burn out my tires out WAY too quick.
 
Unless you're achieving to create a fully worked racing car, then you should keep the tires stock, just for novelty. Trying to drive a 700 HP ZR1 in the wet is very, very fun. :sly:
Comfort soft tires work much better than Sports hard tires on wet surfaces, did you know?
(proving once again that Sports Hard tires for most cars that have them by default in GT5 can't possibly be the proper stock tires they would have in real life).
 
It all depends on the race length and the car I guess. Running time trials or 5 lap races in powerful cars call for racing softs sometimes (of course more of a challenge if you are able to use hards) but clearly too much for street cars.
I found that some track have more grip than others but I don't know if it's just my impression or if it really happens in the game...
 

And your reasoning for me doing so is?

the people who are using racing soft tires are the same ones, who drives the x2010 all the time just to win as fast as possible...

So you're assuming that I drive an X2010 or X2011 all the time just because I use Racing Softs? Don't assume because it'll make you look like a damn jackass.

-Comments like this makes me want to start sending messages through the PSN.

I rarely drive my "X" cars. I'll be in a production car 98% of the time.

This is a video game. I'll drive what I want, when I want. When I get into a room where people are using comforts, I'll drop to what they have. But if I'm in my room, with my friends, nobody dictates what I'm riding on except for me.

Don't like that I race with RS? Don't add me and don't come into my room.
 
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I don't have a problem with anyone using them, it's just the fact that every online lobby is pretty much RS or go home. What I'm trying to say is that people have gotten too dependant on them Been looking for some stuff with Comfy and Sports tires but they are either drift or not available. Some of the best races I've had online were on Sports tires and stock vehicles under around 410pp are very fun on the Comfort tires. I only use Soft slicks on my race cars when I'm turning a fast lap because otherwise I've gotten pretty good at keeping a good pace on Meds. I just wait for the qualifying tires to shred.

But hey, I'm not going to call anyone out if they like em'. It's your call, and although I may not agree with running on RS all the time, I still respect ya either way. I just feel that a lot of people are missing out by riding on rails all of the time. If you play GT5, you owe it to yourself to drive a 700 horse Ford GT, Viper or Corvette on Sports tires because when you learn to keep it on the track, it's a hell of a rush. I'm on the wheel of course so I say that because I love fighting the car. Gotta trust me on this one :D
 
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Racing Softs add too much grip.

Take a stock, untuned no oil change Z06, 458 or GT-R around Laguna Seca. No Tuning, using Sport Soft tires (similar to an R-compound DOT Tire). You should be able to mimic Randy Pobst's times of 1:34.4, 1:36.4 and 1:36.2. Now add Racing Softs. Now look at your lap times. Racing Softs are not real.
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Tires make a difference, but the grip added in game by Racing Softs is unrealistic. If you've ever done a track day, or raced in real life on racing slicks you'd know. In game Sport Softs are similar to a R-compound racing tire. Racing Hards are borderline too grippy. Racing Softs are in fantasy land.

Spec MIATA and 944SPEC both use Toyo RA1s, similar to Sport Medium or Sport Soft.
WTCC and ALMS GT cars use an Yoko Advan A005, similar to a Sport Soft... maybe Racing Hard.
It's been demonstrated that Comfort Softs generate the same lap times as an F1 tire in the video on page 4.

Racing Softs are not real, and add too much grip.
 
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Tires make a difference, but the grip added in game by Racing Softs is unrealistic.


LOL, you should see my Mugen S2K on RS at the Nurb. Occasionally I'll do some of those RS 500PP deals because there can be some good racing at times. Anyways, back on point, I've got a tune where I'm taking Flugplatz at 130 and the car feels like it's literally going to roll over because there's so much grip. Kinda scary, haha :D
 
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Tires make a difference, but the grip added in game by Racing Softs is unrealistic. If you've ever done a track day, or raced in real life on racing slicks you'd know. In game Sport Softs are similar to a R-compound racing tire. Racing Hards are borderline too grippy. Racing Softs are in fantasy land.

Spec MIATA and 944SPEC both use Toyo RA1s, similar to Sport Medium or Sport Soft.
WTCC and ALMS GT cars use an Yoko Advan A005, similar to a Sport Soft... maybe Racing Hard.
It's been demonstrated that Comfort Softs generate the same lap times as an F1 tire in the video on page 4.

Racing Softs are not real, and add too much grip.

Ah, I seen that post. I haven't been to a track day or anything like that. I'm just a gamer. But for those who want a more "realistic" game, kudos to you guys.
 
Like I said, you owe it to yourself to drive a "beast" (700hp road car) with Sports Mediums/Softs, no aids, and stock suspension. You will truly find that there is no better way to perfect your technique because there is really no room for error. That's what I tell everyone who wants disable TCS and Stability. It forces you to really be easy on the throttle and keep from overdriving the car. Sooooooooo much fun, and the improved technique really helps too when you go back to RS's. So it's a win-win.
 
Like I said, you owe it to yourself to drive a "beast" (700hp road car) with Sports Mediums/Softs, no aids, and stock suspension. You will truly find that there is no better way to perfect your technique because there is really no room for error. That's what I tell everyone who wants disable TCS and Stability. It forces you to really be easy on the throttle and keep from overdriving the car. Sooooooooo much fun, and the improved technique really helps too when you go back to RS's. So it's a win-win.

I'll try it.
 
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Like I said, you owe it to yourself to drive a "beast" (700hp road car) with Sports Mediums/Softs, no aids, and stock suspension. You will truly find that there is no better way to perfect your technique because there is really no room for error. That's what I tell everyone who wants disable TCS and Stability. It forces you to really be easy on the throttle and keep from overdriving the car. Sooooooooo much fun, and the improved technique really helps too when you go back to RS's. So it's a win-win.

That really sounds like a good way to improve your driving skills. I'll have to try this whenever I decide to play GT5 again.
 
I'll try it.


Awesome! Glad to hear it man! I will tell you this, at first it's going to be really difficult if you're not used to it. But if you honestly put some effort into it and do this on a regular basis, I guarantee you that you're going to be a better driver. That's because this is how I first learned to drive without driver aids for the first time. Yeah, I used to be a total noob but I was dedicated with learning how to drive without the aids because they really do slow you down. It took me a good while before I could put some good times down but once I did, I really felt like it helped me tremendously. And like I said, if you can turn fast laps on Sports tires, imagine how much it's going to help you once you go back to RS's. It's like night and day. If you want a partner to drive with, hit me up and I'll be glad to help you out. But yeah, if you honestly put time into it without ragequitting, it's amazing how much it helps ;D
 
Racing Soft?

I don't always racing soft
But when I do I 400 & 500pp racing soft.

This thread has a lot of potential for the meme crowd.
 
Why does it matter to people who dislike them as you don't have to race with against people who use them or use them yourself
 
Why does it matter to people who dislike them as you don't have to race with against people who use them or use them yourself

It doesn't really matter who dislikes them. That's not why I made this thread.
I just wondered what people thought of them, and if my thoughts were shared.
Calm down.
 
I run a lot of Daytona races online using racing tires with tire wear but I won't use racing softs unless the race is less than 12 laps or so.
 
Race Soft - They take the strain in corners - Rather than the driver. Basically playing the game on an easier difficulty level - Which isn't such bad thing but It does get very dull joining an online race just to find it turning into a Race Soft when the cars are sporty rather than racey.

Some people like to show their driving ability is good, others like to prove their ability to pick grippy tyres is superior.

All I know is that I prefer races with the same spec of tyre (Maybe a minor deviation SM and SH say) just to prevent the all too predictable "Notorious early braker" meeting with the "I don't need to brake, Road kill doesn't stick to the asphalt like a fresh set of Race Softs."
 
I really wish that the host of the lobby could specify the type of tires to be used whether it be comfort, sport, or racing tires and then you should only be able to choose between hard, medium, or soft compounds.
 
They wear out fast, too fast for endurance races for me. They provide more grip and are much easier to use until they wear out. I'll race on them if that's what is allowed if I want to be competitive. Offline I'll only use Race Hards. Both examples on race cars only.

The argument about what is more realistic in GT5, eh I don't know. Trying to compare real life track times to GT5 there are so many variables. Assuming you can drive as good as a real life race car driver or that PD has modeled the Race Cars to perfection is a lot to ask. I personally don't know any real life race car drivers to ask their opinion about video game tires.
 
I think I only ever use softs on the F10. I use hards even on the FGT! Softs completely kill the physics, and make any car feel like a bundle of weaknesses. Racing Hards for any 'Race' car or tuner/race car, Sports softs for sporty cars/racing, sports hards for most other stuff.
 
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