2008 Fuji GP

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NapoleonMikey
DARN SPEED AND THERE COMERCIALS!!! they cut away just as alonso is going through the hallway with all the hot women. i wanted to see those hot women too :'(
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We can only imagine what would've happened Had James Hunt been on the podium :lol:

According to the press conference Alonso last back to back in the year Twenty 0 6 :lol:

ITV cut Alonso off to interview Hamilton :mad: God I can't wait for BBC.
 
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Ace driving from Alonso.

I'd say it's Massa's dodgiest race since Silverstone? Two collisons and taking to the run off / pit exit to get past Webber. He was so much faster through the corners, he could easily have got past a little later and not risked ripping his wheel off on the wall.
 
"Lewis appears calm and reflective" according to Martin Brundle... Are you having a laugh, Martin...? That wasn't "calm"... that was barely contained fury! Atleast he admitted that he made a catastrophic mistake in the first lap, but he's clearly not a happy camper about Massa's shunt... still, someone needs to have a word in Lewis's ear... you didn't need to race Kimi, mate - and after losing the lead off the start, you effectively threw away 8 points needlessly...

I know that his racing instinct tells him that nothing but a win will do, but what will it take to convince him that he's wrong? A "win" for him was finishing infront of Massa, hence throwing it all away simply to put a move on Kimi was the height of stupidity...

Cultlife
I'd say it's Massa's dodgiest race since Silverstone? Two collisons and taking to the run off / pit exit to get past Webber. He was so much faster through the corners, he could easily have got past a little later and not risked ripping his wheel off on the wall.
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Definitely... and I bet the stewards will be having a look at that move, too...
 
Congrats Alonso!!

Great job by Renault and Drivers by pulling out such a great result for the whole team.

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+2 To Alonso. Great back to back wins on different types of track plus being able to walk normally between that double line of ladies in the small pink dresses. That takes self control.

-1 To Hamilton. Turn one stupidity is not the way to win a championship.

-2 To Massa. This is not GT5P online son.

Additionally, Massa was fully inside the white lines when he passed Webber. There may be an appeal by the Red Bull team over that.
 
Well I missed the first 15 laps of the race because I had to go to tuition and help my parents with something..... :grumpy: So I missed how Hamilton screwed up and how both him and Massa got the drive through penalty..... Actually, I thought the race would start at 1pm, but started at 12 instead. :banghead:

As for the results well it was unexpected to see both Alonso winning the race and Kubica in 2nd. Kimi did a good job scoring points for Ferrari, although he clearly should have gotten 2nd instead of 3rd. The race itself was very uneventful (when I got to watch it at least) and McLaren really did have an awful race to finish with, with Heikki retiring from 3rd and Hamilton failing to score those crucial points. (which Massa managed to do) Renault really did exceptionally well in Fuji, which no one would expect them to perform so well. Good to see them back up there with the best of them. 👍
 
Hasty Hamilton yet again. How many lessons does he need? Hopefully for his sake it's starting to sink in, slightly.

Classy Alonso, Ferrari need a driver like him. It's no surprise that Renault have improved with his driver input again.
 
AdamW
Is it just me or does Massa not know how to pass? He's been stuck in seventh behind a fricking Red Bull for ten minutes now, and it's not like you can't pass at Fuji. I honestly can't recall him making a decent competitive pass on anyone in ages.
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AdamW
So it took Massa, what, four or five laps to get past a Honda?

On the topic of being a rubbish passer, I rest my case.
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What about Hamiltion then, he did nothing after the drive through after being only 7 seconds behind Massa, he just gave up & finished 12th!

Hamilton just imploded again at turn 1, there was absolutely no reason to make that idiotic move if he was thinking championship.
Massa got a drive through & deserved it for being overly aggressive, For all the comments about Massa being off the track, he clearly had 2 tires on the curbing.

Congrats to Alonso, he must be on cloud 9!
 
*Insert obligatory statement that Hamilton isn't as great as people make him out to be*

I was off watching Bathurst, and completely forgot that the Japanese Grand Prix is actually run at a time when I can watch it. Reading some of the reports, though, it's apparent Hamilton was very much his own worst enemy. He seems to get a little impetuous when there's pressure being applied, as if he can't wait to get out of trouble. He did it last year and he's done it again today, and while these mistakes weren't as damning, I think the fact that he struggled to carve his way through the field after starting low down adds to my hypothesis that while he might be a good driver when he has control of the race, he's yet to impress me with the kind of drive Massa, Raikkonen and Alonso have all demonstrated, knifing their way from the back to the front under normal conditions. By rights, Hamilton should have won the race as he was the fastest all weekend, really. The question remains, though: why? Why did he throw it all away again? The championship is his to lose and while it's not going to be a popular tactic, he doesn't have to win every race to do that. He just has to make staying ahead of Felipe Massa his priority, and it's his. The Brazilian is the one who has to do all the work; Hamilton just has to keep his cool and be sensible.

If I were Ron Dennis, I'd be having a conversation about just that with Hamilton right about now ...
 
James Allen normally talks complete rubbish but he's got a point about Kubica. BMW have been concentrating on next years car since Canada and yet Kubica is only 12 points behind Hamilton! Who knows what could have been, and you never know, what may be.
 
Funny to see how supposed “we need to cut the costs” erratic regulations attempts fail to deliver. If they just could agree on regulation for the long term, they wouldn’t force “smaller” teams to choose between developing current season’s car or focus on the next edition. Kubica already complained about the fact BMW sort of renounced battling the for the title this year. So sure BMW has missed something big. 20 points to go... Anybody betting on a big last minute surprise?:crazy:
 
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Funny to see how supposed “we need to cut the costs” erratic regulations attempts fail to deliver. If they just could agree on regulation for the long term, they wouldn’t force “smaller” teams to choose between developing current season’s car or focus on the next edition. Kubica already complained about the fact BMW sort of renounced battling the for the title this year. So sure BMW has missed something big. 20 points to go... Anybody betting on a big last minute surprise?:crazy:
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my bet. kubica comes back to win the championship by one point after hamilton continues to make bone headed mistakes.:sly:
 
Ridiculous, another point for Massa.
that boy is cursed.
 
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Bourdais penalised? Anyboy can confirm this?


Confirmed: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/10/8520.html WTH?
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That's going to cause a bit of a stir. Especially since it puts the gap back to an odd number, sets up a 1-point WDC win again.


I completely disagree with penalising Bourdais - he did nothing wrong. He had the racing line and Massa cut into him.


Edit: and am I right in saying that this happened like, 17 laps from the end? If Bourdais had just got a drive-through for it... Massa still had to pit at that point, and Bourdais would still have got out ahead.

It almost seems like they deliberately waited to investigate, despite having at least 20 mins, because 25 seconds after the race was guaranteed to be devastating compared to a drive through. Maybe that's the point of a penalty, you could argue, but it seems unfair compared to Massa's punishment for what is effectively the same offence... causing a competitor to swap ends.
 
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Sure this is probably gonna turn into yet another “conspiracy theory” debate. I just feel sick for Sebastien Bourdais because this is a spoiled race result for him. As for WDC, I don’t really care too much given how ridiculous it looks at this point.:grumpy:
 
After today's result I am very tempted to put a bet on Kubica to win the championship.
I think the whole F1 thing has become so contrived, I wonder why I still watch it.
 
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71352

Raikkonen claims both McLarens hit him at turn 1.

Interesting, as I didn't notice any contact. Speculation is that Lewis tapped Kimi's rear end when he was tucked behind, I can't work out whether Kimi's accusing Lewis of doing damage to the front of his car, though - the quote seems to suggest Lewis knocked it then Heikki damaged it further.

Probably just trying to make excuses as to why he didn't have the pace to win.
 
Both F1 and NASCAR have a serious problem with consistent and effective rules enforcement by the "impartial" sanctioning body. This is really a shame on so many levels, mostly for Bourdais who finally upstaged his extraordinary teammate on race day and who has an uncertain future in F1.

Does this now mean that any car leaving the pits has to let oncoming traffic pass freely? Where was Sebastian supposed to go, in the grass? This whole thing is laughable, but not unexpected. I can't wait to see the response from Torro Rosso.
 
Cultlife
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71352

Raikkonen claims both McLarens hit him at turn 1.

Interesting, as I didn't notice any contact. Speculation is that Lewis tapped Kimi's rear end when he was tucked behind, I can't work out whether Kimi's accusing Lewis of doing damage to the front of his car, though - the quote seems to suggest Lewis knocked it then Heikki damaged it further.

Probably just trying to make excuses as to why he didn't have the pace to win.
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I've just watched a replay of the start. Firstly I don't think Hamilton made contact with Raikkonen, secondly, it was Kovalainen who forced Raikkonen of the track. On both points, what's the big deal, isn't that 'racing'?
 
Fastas
I've just watched a replay of the start. Firstly I don't think Hamilton made contact with Raikkonen, secondly, it was Kovalainen who forced Raikkonen of the track. On both points, what's the big deal, isn't that 'racing'?
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Indeed. I hold my hands up to the fact that Hamilton inadvertently blocked Raikonnen's turn in when he locked up with his back wheels, but he had as much speed as Hamilton did anyway, so he was also going far too fast. (I can't imagine why some people are saying Hamilton should've turned in, anyone who's ever driven any car and accidentally braked too hard surely knows a. you can't and b. if you can, you really shouldnt be as you're out of control.)

F1 is turning into a soap opera. In fact, given a couple of years with ELECTRO BOOST! and stuff, it may as well be coupled with wrestling as 'Sports Entertainment'.
 
Ardius
So let me get this logic straight:
McLaren yet to have technical problems with their cars all year
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Ferrari have had several engine problems and issues with setups
which means:
McLaren are more likely to have technical problems now?????

Whats changed thats made you think this? I think this just makes it highly unlikely that McLaren are going to have any problems at all.
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well, there goes Kovalainen... guess i was right with my engine failure.

Looking forward to Shanghai where def. Hamilton will start with a new Engine since the defective one that Kovalainen had.

Lets look forward and remember my words :D

Chris
 
Well I have to disagree, Fastas, it looks to me that Hamilton move (to keep it simple) forced many other drivers to go wide. In my opinion this is not racing. Wonder why LH’s car didn’t ghosted in slow motion for a while. Oh yes, cheaters know how to turn regulation to their advantage.:sly::dopey::lol:
 
Alex.
Your supposed to race on the track.
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I really don't want this to turn into a petty row but, how is either of the Mclarens running Raikkonen wide and, ultimately off the track, any different to the reverse situation at Spa?

Raikkonen was pushed wide and chose to run wide rather than brake and fall back, the same decision Hamilton made at Spa but who got the penalty then?

This is my opinion. It was the first corner and, 20 cars charging at 160+mph into a braking zone has it's risks.

I think Hamilton and Mclaren were/are harshly treated to the benefit of Ferrari. Just look at poor Bordais, what did he do wrong, if that wasn't a red car would there be an issue/penalty?
 
Firstly, Raikkonen gained no advantage whatsoever by going wide, apart from the advantage of staying in the race rather than turning where Hamilton and heikki should've and colliding.

It's alot different to Spa, that was a chicane where as this is just a right hander, with no advantage to be gained by going wide, whereas at chicanes drivers cut it as close to the curbs as possible because it's faster.
 

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