2010 F1 Magyar Nagydíj

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Cheeky move, Schumacher. Not needed at all but was a great little battle until that moment. Nice drive there for Webber, that RB6 is just an amazing piece of machinery. Good to see Petrov, Hulkenberg and both Sauber's up there in the points too.

As a McLaren fan, I can't wait until Spa in a months time (and Monza a few weeks after that, for that matter), the MP4-25 should be much more comfortable.
 
Damn, it was an exciting race, and I had to miss it. But at least I have the satisfaction of knowing that Webber leads the Driver's Champ and Red Bull leads the Constructor's Champ.

So, now we have to wait four weeks until the next race. This is going to kill me!

Wow, Mark! You just won the race and you're already posting to GTP!
 
As a Sauber/Williams/Renault fan it was a great race today (I think the two former teams scored their first double points finishes) and nice to see the reaction of the Williams mechanics after Barrichello passed Michael... I think they will end up overtaking Force India in the Constructors. Sad that Kubica went out but Petrovs 5th on merit more than made up for it
 
I think Schumacher really is The Stig...
 
I must say that I really hope, especially after this race, that Webber wins the championship. 👍
 
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:lol: @ that picture

F1GTR
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Yea, he must not have taken to kindly to the t-shirt Barichello was wearing last weekend :lol:

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Yeah..nnnnice picture- but no.

I forgot to mention during my victory post (:D)... the stupidity of Michael, the front-on shot really illustrated the bees dick margine Barrichelo was to hitting the pit wall, could have ended up being a horrific accident even with the slightest of contacts, going at such a speed. I wouldn't be surprised If Shumacer is sacked after this race.
 
MarkWebber
Yeah..nnnnice picture- but no.

I forgot to mention during my victory post (:D)... the stupidity of Michael, the front-on shot really illustrated the bees dick margine Barrichelo was to hitting the pit wall, could have ended up being a horrific accident even with the slightest of contacts, going at such a speed. I wouldn't be surprised If Shumacer is sacked after this race.
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Yea....right :lol:

I agree, that was a really idiotic move though, especially for a 7x WDC 👎 I had a bit of a sour grapes taste in my mouth after that and the whole history between the two. The old dog is just as ruthless as ever :lol:
 
What exactly has Rubens come out and said about his time with Michael? That comment was news to me.
 
That's as eventful as F1 at Hungaroring can be.

Last year, the wheel came off Alonso's car, and he got a penalty. This year, the wheel came off the Mercedes in the pit lane, and seriously could have killed somebody as it bounced about 3 metres into the air. So the Mercedes should get at least the penalty Alonso got last year.

The Schumacher/Barichello move was very similar to Webber/Massa at Fuji:



The difference is, afterwards Webber probably thought "Yeah, I shouldn't have done that.", and probably will be more careful in future.

I've been a Schumi fan for around 15 years, but to be honest I'm really fed up with being so fond of a driver who does something like this. It's just one step to far. I'm asking myself now why am I behind Schumacher for so many years instead of a proper man such as Rubens. The way Schumacher spoke out after the race against Rubens has really hit a spot with me, as Ruben's really doesn't deserve that.
 
F1GTR
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Yes, and Schumacher tried to kill Rubens because Rubens broke Schumachers lap record on Top Gear.

You could clearly see Schumacher looking in his right rear view mirror while Barrichello was overtaking him.
 
Fantastic race ,great performance's by alot of the not so top drivers like De la rosa ,Petrov and Rubins(that overtake was amazing although Michael pushed too far).Anyone one know why Hamilton 's car failed (I think it is the Drive shaft).Now we await the great one .
 
So... my predictions weren't far off... Massa finished ahead of Button who finished ahead of Kobayashi. :D

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Gutted that I missed this one. Sounds exciting. Tough luck for Lewis... atypical mechanical issue for McLaren there.

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Schumacher? Barrichelo? Excitement? And neither in a red car? Whodathunkit?

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Great for Webber... this changes the complexion of the championship a bit... at this point, unless McLaren or Ferrari rally, the RBR looks set to run away with the rest of the season.
 
According to Schumacher: his car was 5 cm off (I think he meant off the ideal line in the last corner), his car 'spinned' (translation; meaning that he lost traction) and from that moment he knew Barrichello was going to overtake him.

Schumacher said that he steered to the right thinking that Barrichello would be smart enough to choose the left side. We all know what happened.

According to this website, the Schumacher manoeuvre was 'slow' and 'legal'.

http://www.f1journaal.be/index.php/nieuws/artikel/je-hebt-rijders-met-meningen-en-dan-heb-je-rubens/
 
Rubens already said it was legal. "There are no rules against it", he said.

Then, following the interview with Schumacher, Legard came back to him with "So Rubens, all your fault then?". Rubens said "As usual. It was my fault for 6 years."
 
Alan_G
The Schumacher/Barichello move was very similar to Webber/Massa at Fuji:



The difference is, afterwards Webber probably thought "Yeah, I shouldn't have done that.", and probably will be more careful in future.
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Not very similar at all. Webber made his intentions clear before Massa was near him that he was going to block the inside, he allowed a very small width whilst they were side by side, but he did not narrow him any further into the pit wall, he continued to make it difficult for Massa after they passed the wall by nudging him further right, ultra agressive yes, but he was not penalised nor even called into question by the stewards for that move.
 
Noises from Hungary are a 10 place grid penalty for Schumacher next race.
 
Cracking race from Webber 👍 and yet another cock up by Vettel :lol:

Watching the montage of highlights on BBC forum I couldn't help burst out laughing when they took the sound from the lap where Vettel was questioning his drive through and they put it over the drivethrough coverage and when you hear him yelling "WHY DO I HAVE TO DO A DRIVETHROUGH? ... WHY DO I HAVE TO DO A DRIVETHROUGH?" you see him waving his fist and smacking the steering wheel haha :p It was just class ;)

Looking forward to SPA things are hotting up nicely 👍
 
I notice Renault (unsafe release of Kubica) and Mercedes (unsafe release of Rosberg) have been fined $50k each.

We thought we saw Rosberg's wheel roll down the pit lane, pop up into the air, over the Renault mechanics and the Renault lollipop man dived out of the way (coincidentally just as all the mechanics had finished), rather than him just letting Kubica go with Sutil alongside. So it's a bit of an odd situation as far as we're concerned.

Good to see that you can cause two crashes for every race you fix though... [/can'o'worms]
 
Ten place penalty means he'll be the last one on the grid: mwahahah! :lol: :D
 
Not at all surprising to see Michael up to old tricks, he only further ruins his image (which wasn't so great to me anyway) pulling stuff like this. There was a massive accident in Superleague formula which demonstrates exactly what could have happened with Rubens versus Michael:


Other than that, good race helped by the safety car. Some rather bizarre pit incidents and a rare mechanical failure for Hamilton.
Great drives from:
Webber, Petrov, Kobayashi, Hulkenburg, Barrichello and De La Rosa.

Also a congragulations to all 3 new teams for a 100% survival.

The Hungaroring once again throws up surprise results even if it doesn't give us great overtaking action.

Famine
I notice Renault (unsafe release of Kubica) and Mercedes (unsafe release of Rosberg) have been fined $50k each.

We thought we saw Rosberg's wheel roll down the pit lane, pop up into the air, over the Renault mechanics and the Renault lollipop man dived out of the way (coincidentally just as all the mechanics had finished), rather than him just letting Kubica go with Sutil alongside. So it's a bit of an odd situation as far as we're concerned.

Good to see that you can cause two crashes for every race you fix though... [/can'o'worms]
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The Renault mechanic didn't "dive out of the way". He was probably distracted by the flying wheel though plus all the madness going on with both De La Rosa, Rosberg and then Sutil coming past as well as keeping an eye on his own team. The Kubica onboard video confirms the mechanic was acting normally.
On the BBC, Eric Boullier said the mechanic admitted that he just assumed Sutil was going past and not pitting. Its an easy mistake and was waiting to happen to be honest (plus the afforementioned madness going on).

I think a fine for both teams is fair, mistakes are made but even so, teams should be careful. On the other side though, the rules and technology involved needs looking at as was dicussed on the BBC Forum. Perhaps bringing in technology which stops the cars launching from the pits if a car is within a certain zone and when wheels arent properly attached.
 
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MarkWebber
Not very similar at all. Webber made his intentions clear before Massa was near him that he was going to block the inside, he allowed a very small width whilst they were side by side, but he did not narrow him any further into the pit wall, he continued to make it difficult for Massa after they passed the wall by nudging him further right, ultra agressive yes, but he was not penalised nor even called into question by the stewards for that move.
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I find it bizarre that someone with a username "Mark Webber" is attempting to defend a Mark Webber incident. And it was a frighteningly dangerous incident.

I think you've completely missed the point. It's little to do with the pit wall. The real danger is touching wheels at 200mph. When Massa was alongside, Webber made another squeeze, and nearly touched wheels.

Nobody unbiased would say that it's "not very similar at all" to the Schumacher/Barrichello incident.

"...he was not penalised nor even called into question by the stewards for that move" - Well Webber should have been, and Schumacher should get more than a crumby 10 place grid drop, for the same reason as that Superleague crash example above. And this is coming from a long, long-time Schumacher fan.
 
Mr P
Cracking race from Webber 👍 and yet another cock up by Vettel :lol:

Watching the montage of highlights on BBC forum I couldn't help burst out laughing when they took the sound from the lap where Vettel was questioning his drive through and they put it over the drivethrough coverage and when you hear him yelling "WHY DO I HAVE TO DO A DRIVETHROUGH? ... WHY DO I HAVE TO DO A DRIVETHROUGH?" you see him waving his fist and smacking the steering wheel haha :p It was just class ;)

Looking forward to SPA things are hotting up nicely 👍
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Sound like me when I used play Prologue and get some crap shortcut penalty while leading a race :lol:

I always love it when Vettel gets angry (or even emotional) during radio transmissions, especially in todays case when the team told him about the drive thru penalty. You could tell his head was about to explode and he was about to lose control of his emotions...much worse than Alonso IMO. To me he sounds like a pre programmed robot when he gets angry or emotional over the radio...like when he took pole yesterday :lol:

Alan_G
I find it bizarre that someone with a username "Mark Webber" is attempting to defend a Mark Webber incident. And it was a frighteningly dangerous incident.

I think you've completely missed the point. It's little to do with the pit wall. The real danger is touching wheels at 200mph. When Massa was alongside, Webber made another squeeze, and nearly touched wheels.

Nobody unbiased would say that it's "not very similar at all" to the Schumacher/Barrichello incident.

"...he was not penalised nor even called into question by the stewards for that move" - Well Webber should have been, and Schumacher should get more than a crumby 10 place grid drop, for the same reason as that Superleague crash example above. And this is coming from a long, long-time Schumacher fan.
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I can't recall how many times I've seen Webber run people off the road like that. I remember last year at Brazil when he ran Kimi off the road to prevent him from taking the lead on the first lap. This year at Turkey where he collided with Vettel, although he was only partly to blame, squeezing your teammate off like that is a bit ridulous IMO.
 
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Turkey wasn't really much of a squeeze so much as not moving over. Even if Webber had squeezed Vettel more at Turkey, it would have been a natural line out of the previous corner (i.e. moving to the outside from the exit).

I agree though that Webber is another driver who is crazily aggressive and makes many mistakes when battling people. Sometimes he pulls it off, sometimes he doesn't. Australia this year was extremely poor driving from him.
 
Jackington
As a McLaren fan, I can't wait until Spa in a months time (and Monza a few weeks after that, for that matter), the MP4-25 should be much more comfortable.
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McLaren had the same downforce problem last year as they do this year and Hamilton was losing a second in the middle sector at Spa to the others. He gained some back in sector 3 and sector 1 was good (straights). He didn't make Q3 last year due to poor downforce on those sweeping corners. The car maybe seen as worse last year but last two races they seem to be in a similarly bad position going into Spa in trying to overcome Red Bull and Ferrari. Would be interesting to see how dominant they'd be if Spa was next week.

Hopefully McLaren can think it through and get a package working with a lower acting front wing to help. Lewis can overtake there if they don't do too well in quali though.

Great stuff from Webber. You just can't keep him down. Seems destined to win the title. In previous races you have the front wing swap and he won, then when Vettel cut him up while overtaking when Webber was saving fuel, today, Webber comes out top.
 
For a very fast guy Vettel sure is looking amateurish as this season progresses. He sure does makes some stupid moves.
 
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