2011 German Grand Prix

Hopefully Karun (it was him wasn't it :p) will be able to keep it out the wall after turn 1 in P1, unlike Australia.

I rate Karun about the same as Narain. Mediocre drivers in paid seats.
 
Mike Rotch
Hopefully Karun (it was him wasn't it :p) will be able to keep it out the wall after turn 1 in P1, unlike Australia.
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I'll have you know that ACTUALLY he made it to turn 3 before crashing! 👍

I don't see him matching Kovalainen, and it will probably just allow the Virgin drivers to split the lotus drivers.

And although Trulli hasn't complained against Lotus (besides the power steering problem), he has stated that 100% reliability is bad for the sport amongst other things. I believe that statement is only down to the fact that Lotus gain positions in races due to retirements.
 
pezzarinho17
I would like to see this move stick for the rest of the year. Chandhok never had much chance at HRT last year, and yet Trulli just seems to complain about everything and anything...
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Trulli does have something to complain about. His major problem has been the power steering on his car, and if you can't steer properly, what's the use?

Hoping to see Karun close to Kovy, he's fresh, untapped talent and is finally getting the opportunity to prove himself.
 
Peter.
Trulli does have something to complain about. His major problem has been the power steering on his car, and if you can't steer properly, what's the use?
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Why isn't Kovalainen complaining about the same thing?
 
EDK
Why isn't Kovalainen complaining about the same thing?
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Not a clue, maybe different power steering settings, if that's possible, or Trulli probably just doesn't like Lotus' power steering.
 
Will Buxton of Speed -
Massive controversy in Germany. 10 teams in contravention of FIA regulations. So far only Lotus and HRT are legal (I think). No joke.

Just heard from @marussiavirgin that they are also legal. MASSIVE! So 3 teams legal.

The issue, incredibly, is driver overalls. FIA compliance must be stitched to collars. Screen prints are thus illegal.


Cheers to Mike Trusler, who I expected to have posted here by now!
 
Ardius
Er, woah! Team Lotus drop Trulli and bring in Chandhok for one race!
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Woah. I expected it for the Indian Grand Prix, but not this early.

Ardius
I don't expect Chandhok to be close to Kovalainen's pace, so if he manages that he has done pretty well.
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In the unlikely event that he does, it could be curtains for Trulli.

LMSCorvetteGT2
However, wasn't that the same wing Vettle destroyed when he wrecked the car in practice and they weren't able to use it because that was the only version they had made?
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You (and many others) are mistaken on this matter. Vettel didn't wreck the car in practice, and he didn't make a mistake. It was simply a front wing failure. No fault on Vettel's part.
 
I was there for that, he came into the pits with it slightly drooped.
 
Stevisiov
I think you are getting a bit carried away by trying to place blame on Vettel. At the end of the day, the ball is in the teams court with regards to decision making. It's hardly a secret that certain powers with big influence in the team favour the young German, but it should be remembered that you can hardly blame Vettel for this.
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Where in my post do I specifically place blame on Vettel for anything other than the mistakes he made last season? Read it again, team decisions are blamed more than anything else. And I even said I fully understand why RB favors Vettel to the degree they do. Again, why wouldn't they? I know if a driver came through whatever Junior program I had my interests would be more in him than whatever former veteran I have, especially when that young person has the propensity of being better under almost every facet.

I think your personal dislike of Vettel is blinding you from the fact that its most likely misdirected anger, and that it should really be aimed at the team.
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I dislike Vettel? That's news to me. The only thing I dislike about Vettel is how often he keeps winning. :lol:

Again, how many times do I mention the team as the blame as opposed to Vettel? I count 2-0, respectively.
 
Alex.
Will Buxton of Speed -
Massive controversy in Germany. 10 teams in contravention of FIA regulations. So far only Lotus and HRT are legal (I think). No joke.

Just heard from @marussiavirgin that they are also legal. MASSIVE! So 3 teams legal.

The issue, incredibly, is driver overalls. FIA compliance must be stitched to collars. Screen prints are thus illegal.


Cheers to Mike Trusler, who I expected to have posted here by now!
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:lol: Indy 2005 all over again. Looks like we might have a 6 car grid on Sunday.

I'm kidding of course.
 
^ The only sensible solution is to hand out 10-spot grid penalties, of course. :dunce:

In other news, Alex Wurz has had to vacate his entire total points haul in F1, due to two separate liveries on his racing shoes.
 
I'm guessing the screen prints can emit toxic fumes if it catches fire? Were as stitched ones don't. :dopey:
 
F1 fan
You (and many others) are mistaken on this matter. Vettel didn't wreck the car in practice, and he didn't make a mistake. It was simply a front wing failure. No fault on Vettel's part.
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I love how you take a snip of my post and turn it against me...I actually wasn't sure at all about and not mistaken just asking in general. If we look back at what I say I clearly doubt myself in the next and last part of the post. I also am asking because I'm not sure if it was the case at all. Now I'd apologize and say I was wrong if I didn't have doubt to start with, but I did doubt myself.
 


Abit off topic for some F1 fun. This is former F1 driver Ricardo Petresse takes his wife for a drive.
 
I never realized how many German drivers there are on the grid. It's surprising there are two GPs in Spain.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
I love how you take a snip of my post and turn it against me...I actually wasn't sure at all about and not mistaken just asking in general. If we look back at what I say I clearly doubt myself in the next and last part of the post. I also am asking because I'm not sure if it was the case at all. Now I'd apologize and say I was wrong if I didn't have doubt to start with, but I did doubt myself.
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This is what you said.

LMSCorvetteGT2
Nope Terronium, I would have to agree with you because that tends to show favortism toward one part of the team and not the other. However, wasn't that the same wing Vettle destroyed when he wrecked the car in practice and they weren't able to use it because that was the only version they had made? If I'm right than I'd say Webber had Karma in the backseat that weekend.
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The way you said it implies that Vettel destroyed the wing. I'm not wanting to get into any arguements. I'm just correcting what was incorrect. Don't take it personally. A lot of people got blinded by the events that weekend.
 
Peter.
Trulli does have something to complain about. His major problem has been the power steering on his car, and if you can't steer properly, what's the use?

Hoping to see Karun close to Kovy, he's fresh, untapped talent and is finally getting the opportunity to prove himself.
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Its not about "steering properly", its about the feedback the car gives the driver. Some drivers are more sensitive to the feedback a car gives back than others, and Trulli is certainly a sensitive driver to the handling of a car - his inconsistent results with the various Toyotas certainly show this.

When you are in the middle of a corner and steering, and the wheel starts vibrating in a way you don't expect normally, you are obviously going to find it difficult to really feel confident in the car.

To some extent, all drivers are victims of feedback - if you build up your confidence, experience and speed by learning and being able to react to the car - how can you still keep your speed up when it starts doing things you don't expect? If the car is telling you its about snap into oversteer, you are obviously going to slow it down and drive more carefully. Its pretty crucial that the car is as predictable as possible - the fastest cars are the most predictable.

EDK
Why isn't Kovalainen complaining about the same thing?
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http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motorsport/watching-lotus-flower-20110326-1cb70.html

''The power steering doesn't feel correct, it's difficult to keep the car in a straight line,'' Kovalainen said.


Well, he has. :p Ok, that was a far more serious power steering issue that they obviously fixed.

But Kovalainen has admitted the power steering is an issue still (on the BBC F1 forum at Valencia and at various interviews elsewhere). He is just happier in the car having to deal with it, he doesn't rely on the steering wheel feedback as much as Jarno does.
 
Watching highlights of a past Nurburgring Gran Prix, 2007 I think? (not sure) on BBC Red Button. The rain at the start of the race, like 8 cars went of on the same spot, crazy. Shame the highlights were only like 10 minutes long.
 
NINE_HUNDRED
Watching highlights of a past Nurburgring Gran Prix, 2007 I think? (not sure) on BBC Red Button. The rain at the start of the race, like 8 cars went of on the same spot, crazy. Shame the highlights were only like 10 minutes long.
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Yeah I was also watching it and it was madness, Winkelhoch leading on his debut!
 
Is anyone else watching the P1 and P2 sessions and checking out what lines they take? You don't often get the chance to do that for GT5.

OK, apart from Suzuka...

...and perhaps Laguna Seca. Actually quite a few really!
 
The Ferraris pushing too hard in the same places as I do and barely make the corner, this happens the same in GT5. Although I will have to use the wrong direction wind excuse next time.
 
Yep, plenty of drivers locking up into turn one, which is my main issue. Interesting to see so many messing up the hairpin which I always thought was fairly straight forward.
 
Looking good for a damp track over the weekend.
That's what I would like not full wet with big spray tails, but damp and less grip.
 
axletramp
Yep, plenty of drivers locking up into turn one, which is my main issue. Interesting to see so many messing up the hairpin which I always thought was fairly straight forward.
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It's the little kink and the fact it suddenly drops under you I'd say makes it tricky.
 
akmuq
It's the little kink and the fact it suddenly drops under you I'd say makes it tricky.
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I think it's just me, but there's something about turn 1 that makes me underestimate how fast I'm going and just how much braking distance I need. I think it is the slight downhill angle that makes it seem just a bit further away than it actually is.

Radracing


Abit off topic for some F1 fun. This is former F1 driver Ricardo Petresse takes his wife for a drive.
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I love that smile he has on his face the whole time!

Webber on top after FP2. I'd really, really love to see something, ANYTHING other than a RBR 1-2.
 
F1 fan
The way you said it implies that Vettel destroyed the wing. I'm not wanting to get into any arguements. I'm just correcting what was incorrect. Don't take it personally. A lot of people got blinded by the events that weekend.
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Oh, well for the sake of not arguing I understand...I was just trying to say that I wasn't right nor wrong since I was asking a question to get the true answer in reality. I was just taken what I was told about that session and making it the question, but you gave me the really truth so thank you for that F1 Fan. Also I wasn't trying to imply Vettle destoryed it to be honest if I did that's my mistake. Anyways thanks for clearing things up.
 
So, i'm gonna be the first to say it.

Alonso will win comfortably, so long as it doesn't rain. Then he'll win a bit wet.
 

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